59 episodes

Shifting Privacy Left features lively discussions on the need for organizations to embed privacy by design into the UX/UI, architecture, engineering / DevOps and the overall product development processes BEFORE code or products are ever shipped. Each Tuesday, we publish a new episode that features interviews with privacy engineers, technologists, researchers, ethicists, innovators, market makers, and industry thought leaders. We dive deeply into this subject and unpack the exciting elements of emerging technologies and tech stacks that are driving privacy innovation; strategies and tactics that win trust; privacy pitfalls to avoid; privacy tech issues ripped from the headlines; and other juicy topics of interest. 

The Shifting Privacy Left Podcast Debra J. Farber (Shifting Privacy Left)

    • Technology

Shifting Privacy Left features lively discussions on the need for organizations to embed privacy by design into the UX/UI, architecture, engineering / DevOps and the overall product development processes BEFORE code or products are ever shipped. Each Tuesday, we publish a new episode that features interviews with privacy engineers, technologists, researchers, ethicists, innovators, market makers, and industry thought leaders. We dive deeply into this subject and unpack the exciting elements of emerging technologies and tech stacks that are driving privacy innovation; strategies and tactics that win trust; privacy pitfalls to avoid; privacy tech issues ripped from the headlines; and other juicy topics of interest. 

    S3E11: 'Decision-Making Governance & Design: Combating Dark Patterns with Fair Patterns' with Marie Potel-Saville (Amurabi & FairPatterns)

    S3E11: 'Decision-Making Governance & Design: Combating Dark Patterns with Fair Patterns' with Marie Potel-Saville (Amurabi & FairPatterns)

    In this episode, Marie Potel-Saville joins me to shed light on the widespread issue of dark patterns in design. With her background in law, Marie founded the 'FairPatterns' project with her award-winning privacy and innovation studio, Amurabi, to detect and fix large-scale dark patterns. Throughout our conversation, we discuss the different types of dark patterns, why it is crucial for businesses to prevent them from being coded into their websites and apps, and how designers can ensure that they are designing fair patterns in their projects.

    Dark patterns are interfaces that deceive or manipulate users into unintended actions by exploiting cognitive biases inherent in decision-making processes. Marie explains how dark patterns are harmful to our economic and democratic models, their negative impact on individual agency, and the ways that FairPatterns provides countermeasures and safeguards against the exploitation of people's cognitive biases. She also shares tips for designers and developers for designing and architecting fair patterns.


    Topics Covered: 
    Why Marie shifted her career path from practicing law to deploying and lecturing on Legal UX design & combatting Dark Patterns at AmurabiThe definition of ‘Dark Patterns’ and the difference between them and ‘deceptive patterns’What motivated Marie to found FairPatterns.com and her science-based methodology to combat dark patternsThe importance of decision making governance Why execs should care about preventing dark patterns from being coded into their websites, apps, & interfacesHow dark patterns exploit our cognitive biases to our detrimentWhat global laws say about dark patternsHow dark patterns create structural risks for our economies & democratic modelsHow "Fair Patterns" serve as countermeasures to Dark PatternsThe 7 categories of Dark Patterns in UX design & associated countermeasures Advice for designers & developers to ensure that they design & architect Fair Patterns when build9ing products & featuresHow companies can boost sales & gain trust with Fair Patterns Resources to learn more about Dark Patterns & countermeasuresGuest Info: 
    Connect with Marie on LinkedInLearn more about AmurabiCheck out FairPatterns.comResources Mentioned:
    Learn about the 7 Stages of Action ModelTake FairPattern's course: Dark Patterns 101 Read Deceptive Design PatternsListen to FairPatterns' Fighting Dark Patterns Podcast

    Privado.aiPrivacy assurance at the speed of product development. Get instant visibility w/ privacy code scans.TRU Staffing PartnersTop privacy talent - when you need it, where you need it.Shifting Privacy Left MediaWhere privacy engineers gather, share, & learnDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Copyright © 2022 - 2024 Principled LLC. All rights reserved.

    • 54 min
    S3E10: 'How a Privacy Engineering Center of Excellence Shifts Privacy Left' with Aaron Weller (HP)

    S3E10: 'How a Privacy Engineering Center of Excellence Shifts Privacy Left' with Aaron Weller (HP)

    In this episode, I sat down with Aaron Weller, the Leader of HP's Privacy Engineering Center of Excellence (CoE), focused on providing technical solutions for privacy engineering across HP's global operations. Throughout our conversation, we discuss: what motivated HP's leadership to stand up a CoE for Privacy Engineering; Aaron's approach to staffing the CoE; how a CoE's can shift privacy left in a large, matrixed organization like HP's; and, how to leverage the CoE to proactively manage privacy risk.

    Aaron emphasizes the importance of understanding an organization's strategy when creating a CoE and shares his methods for gathering data to inform the center's roadmap and team building. He also highlights the great impact that a Center of Excellence can offer and gives advice for implementing one in your organization. We touch on the main challenges in privacy engineering today and the value of designing user-friendly privacy experiences. In addition, Aaron provides his perspective on selecting the right combination of Privacy Enhancing Technologies (PETs) for anonymity, how to go about implementing PETs, and the role that AI governance plays in his work. 
    Topics Covered: 
    Aaron’s deep privacy and consulting background and how he ended up leading HP's Privacy Engineering Center of Excellence The definition of a "Center of Excellence" (CoE) and how a Privacy Engineering CoE can drive value for an organization and shift privacy leftWhat motivates a company like HP to launch a CoE for Privacy Engineering and what it's reporting line should beAaron's approach to creating a Privacy Engineering CoE roadmap; his strategy for staffing this CoE; and the skills & abilities that he soughtHow HP's Privacy Engineering CoE works with the business to advise on, and select, the right PETs for each business use caseWhy it's essential to know the privacy guarantees that your organization wants to assert before selecting the right PETs to get you thereLessons Learned from setting up a Privacy Engineering CoE and how to get executive sponsorshipThe amount of time that Privacy teams have had to work on AI issues over the past year, and advice on preventing burnoutAaron's hypothesis about the value of getting an early handle on governance over the adoption of innovative technologiesThe importance of being open to continuous learning in the field of privacy engineering Guest Info: 
    Connect with Aaron on LinkedInLearn about HP's Privacy Engineering Center of ExcellenceReview the OWASP Machine Learning Security Top 10Review the OWASP Top 10 for LLM Applications

    Privado.aiPrivacy assurance at the speed of product development. Get instant visibility w/ privacy code scans.TRU Staffing PartnersTop privacy talent - when you need it, where you need it.Shifting Privacy Left MediaWhere privacy engineers gather, share, & learnDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Copyright © 2022 - 2024 Principled LLC. All rights reserved.

    • 40 min
    S3E9: 'Building a Culture of Privacy & Achieving Compliance without Sacrificing Innovation' with Amaka Ibeji (Cruise)

    S3E9: 'Building a Culture of Privacy & Achieving Compliance without Sacrificing Innovation' with Amaka Ibeji (Cruise)

    Today, I’m joined by Amaka Ibeji, Privacy Engineer at Cruise where she designs and implements robust privacy programs and controls. In this episode, we discuss Amaka's passion for creating a culture of privacy and compliance within organizations and engineering teams. Amaka also hosts the PALS Parlor Podcast, where she speaks to business leaders and peers about privacy, AI governance, leadership, and security and explains technical concepts in a digestible way. The podcast aims to enable business leaders to do more with their data and provides a way for the community to share knowledge with one other.

    In our conversation, we touch on her career trajectory from security engineer to privacy engineer and the intersection of cybersecurity, privacy engineering, and AI governance. We highlight the importance of early engagement with various technical teams to enable innovation while still achieving privacy compliance. Amaka also shares the privacy-enhancing technologies (PETs) that she is most excited about, and she recommends resources for those who want to learn more about strategic privacy engineering. Amaka emphasizes that privacy is a systemic, 'wicked problem' and offers her tips for understanding and approaching it.

    Topics Covered:
    How Amaka's compliance-focused experience at Microsoft helped prepare her for her Privacy Engineering role at CruiseWhere privacy overlaps with the development of AI Advice for shifting privacy left to make privacy stretch beyond a compliance exerciseWhat works well and what doesn't when building a 'Culture of Privacy'Privacy by Design approaches that make privacy & innovation a win-win rather than zero-sum gamePrivacy Engineering trends that Amaka sees; and, the PETs about which she's most excitedAmaka's Privacy Engineering resource recommendations, including: Hoepman's "Privacy Design Strategies" book;The LINDDUN Privacy Threat Modeling Framework; andThe PLOT4AI Framework"The PALS Parlor Podcast," focused on Privacy Engineering, AI Governance, Leadership, & SecurityWhy Amaka launched the podcast;Her intended audience; andTopics that she plans to cover this yearThe importance of collaboration; building a community of passionate privacy engineers, and addressing the systemic issue of privacy Guest Info & Resources:
    Follow Amaka on LinkedInListen to The PALS Parlor PodcastRead Jaap-Henk Hoepman's "Privacy Design Strategies (The Little Blue Book)"Read Jason Cronk's "Strategic Privacy by Design, 2nd Edition"Check out The LINDDUN Privacy Threat Modeling FrameworkCheck out The Privacy Library of Threats for Artificial Intelligence (PLOT4.AI) Framework

    Privado.aiPrivacy assurance at the speed of product development. Get instant visibility w/ privacy code scans.TRU Staffing PartnersTop privacy talent - when you need it, where you need it.Shifting Privacy Left MediaWhere privacy engineers gather, share, & learnDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Copyright © 2022 - 2024 Principled LLC. All rights reserved.

    • 43 min
    S3E8: 'Recent FTC Enforcement: What Privacy Engineers Need to Know' with Heidi Saas (H.T. Saas)

    S3E8: 'Recent FTC Enforcement: What Privacy Engineers Need to Know' with Heidi Saas (H.T. Saas)

    In this week's episode, I am joined by Heidi Saas, a privacy lawyer with a reputation for advocating for products and services built with privacy by design and against the abuse of personal data. In our conversation, she dives into recent FTC enforcement actions, analyzing five FTC actions and some enforcement sweeps by Colorado & Connecticut.

    Heidi shares her insights on the effect of the FTC enforcement actions and what privacy engineers need to know, emphasizing the need for data management practices to be transparent, accountable, and based on affirmative consent. We cover the role of privacy engineers in ensuring compliance with data privacy laws; why 'browsing data' is 'sensitive data;' the challenges companies face regarding data deletion; and the need for clear consent mechanisms, especially with the collection and use of location data. We also discuss the need to audit the privacy posture of products and services - which includes a requirement to document who made certain decisions - and how to prioritize risk analysis to proactively address risks to privacy.

    Topics Covered: 
    Heidi’s journey into privacy law and advocacy for privacy by design and defaultHow the FTC brings enforcement actions, the effect of their settlements, and why privacy engineers should pay closer attentionCase 1: FTC v. InMarket Media - Heidi explains the implication of the decision: where data that are linked to a mobile advertising identifier (MAID) or an individual's home are not considered de-identifiedCase 2: FTC v. X-Mode Social / OutLogic - Heidi explains the implication of the decision, focused on: affirmative express consent for location data collection; definition of a 'data product assessment' and audit programs; and data retention & deletion requirementsCase 3: FTC v. Avast - Heidi explains the implication of the decision: 'browsing data' is considered 'sensitive data'Case 4: The People (CA) v. DoorDash - Heidi explains the implications of the decision, based on CalOPPA: where companies that share personal data with one another as part of a 'marketing cooperative' are, in fact, selling of dataHeidi discusses recent State Enforcement Sweeps for privacy, specifically in Colorado and Connecticut and clarity around breach reporting timelinesThe need to prioritize independent third-party audits for privacyCase 5: FTC v. Kroger - Heidi explains why the FTC's blocking of Kroger's merger with Albertson's was based on antitrust and privacy harms given the sheer amount of personal data that they processTools and resources for keeping up with FTC cases and connecting with your privacy community Guest Info: 
    Follow Heidi on LinkedInRead (book):  'Means of Control: How the Hidden Alliance of Tech and Government is Creating a New American Surveillance State'

    Privado.aiPrivacy assurance at the speed of product development. Get instant visibility w/ privacy code scans.TRU Staffing PartnersTop privacy talent - when you need it, where you need it.Shifting Privacy Left MediaWhere privacy engineers gather, share, & learnDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Copyright © 2022 - 2024 Principled LLC. All rights reserved.

    • 1 hr 15 min
    S3E7: 'Personal CRM: Embracing Digital Minimalism & Privacy Empowerment' with Chris Zeunstrom (Yorba)

    S3E7: 'Personal CRM: Embracing Digital Minimalism & Privacy Empowerment' with Chris Zeunstrom (Yorba)

    This week's episode, I chat with Chris Zeunstrom, the Founder and CEO of Ruca and Yorba. Ruca is a global design cooperative and founder support network, while Yorba is a reverse CRM that aims to reduce your digital footprint and keep your personal information safe. Through his businesses, Chris focuses on solving common problems and creating innovative products. In our conversation, we talk about building a privacy-first company, the digital minimalist movement, and the future of decentralized identity and storage.
    Chris shares his journey as a privacy-focused entrepreneur and his mission to prioritize privacy and decentralization in managing personal data. He also explains the digital minimalist movement and why its teachings reach beyond the industry. Chris touches on Yorba's collaboration with Consumer Reports to implement Permission Slip and creating a Data Rights Protocol ecosystem that automates data deletion for consumers. Chris also emphasizes the benefits of decentralized identity and storage solutions in improving personal privacy and security. Finally, he gives you a sneak peek at what's next in store for Yorba.

    Topics Covered: 
    How Yorba was designed as a privacy-1st consumer CRM platform; the problems that Yorba solves; and key product functionality & privacy featuresWhy Chris decided to bring a consumer product to market for privacy rather than a B2B productWhy Chris incorporated Yorba as a 'Public Benefit Corporation' (PBC) and sought B Corp statusExploring 'Digital Minimalism' How Yorba's is working with Consumer Reports to advance the CR Data Rights Protocol, leveraging 'Permission Slip' - an authorized agent for consumers to submit data deletion requestsThe architectural design decisions behind Yorba’s personal CRM system The benefits to using Matomo Analytics or Fathom Analytics for greater privacy vs. using Google Analytics The privacy benefits to deploying 'Decentralized Identity' & 'Decentralized Storage' architecturesChris' vision for the next stage of the Internet; and, the future of YorbaGuest Info: 
    Follow/Connect with Chris on LinkedInCheck out Yorba's website Resources Mentioned: 
    Read: TechCrunch's review of YorbaRead: 'Digital Minimalism - Choosing a Focused Life In a Noisy World' by Cal NewportSubscribe to the Bullet Journal (AKA Bujo) on Digital Minimalism by Ryder CarrollLearn  about Consumer Reports' Permission Slip Protocol Check out Matomo Analytics  and Fathom  for privacy-first analytics platforms

    Privado.aiPrivacy assurance at the speed of product development. Get instant visibility w/ privacy code scans.TRU Staffing PartnersTop privacy talent - when you need it, where you need it.Shifting Privacy Left MediaWhere privacy engineers gather, share, & learnDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Copyright © 2022 - 2024 Principled LLC. All rights reserved.

    • 43 min
    S3E6: 'Keys to Good Privacy Implementation: Exploring Anonymization, Consent, & DSARs' with Jake Ottenwaelder (Integrative Privacy)

    S3E6: 'Keys to Good Privacy Implementation: Exploring Anonymization, Consent, & DSARs' with Jake Ottenwaelder (Integrative Privacy)

    In this week's episode, I sat down with Jake Ottenwaelder,  Principal Privacy Engineer at Integrative Privacy LLC. Throughout our conversation, we discuss Jake’s holistic approach to privacy implementation that considers business, engineering, and personal objectives, as well as the role of anonymization, consent management, and DSAR processes for greater privacy. 

    Jake believes privacy implementation must account for the interconnectedness of privacy technologies and human interactions. He highlights what a successful implementation looks like and the negative consequences when done poorly. We also dive into the challenges of implementing privacy in fast-paced, engineering-driven organizations. We talk about the complexities of anonymizing data (a very high bar) and he offers valuable suggestions and strategies for achieving anonymity while making the necessary resources more accessible. Plus, Jake shares his advice for organizational leaders to see themselves as servant-leaders, leaving a positive legacy in the field of privacy. 
    Topics Covered: 
    What inspired Jake’s initial shift from security engineering to privacy engineering, with a focus on privacy implementationHow Jake's previous role at Axon helped him shift his mindset to privacyJake’s holistic approach to implementing privacy The qualities of a successful implementation and the consequences of an unsuccessful implementationThe challenges of implementing privacy in large organizations Common blockers to the deployment of anonymizationJake’s perspective on using differential privacy techniques to achieve anonymityCommon blockers to implementing consent management capabilitiesThe importance of understanding data flow & lineage, and auditing data deletion Holistic approaches to implementing a streamlined and compliant DSAR process with minimal business disruption Why Jake believes it's important to maintain a servant-leader mindset in privacyGuest Info: 
    Connect with Jake on LinkedInIntegrative Privacy LLC

    Privado.aiPrivacy assurance at the speed of product development. Get instant visibility w/ privacy code scans.TRU Staffing PartnersTop privacy talent - when you need it, where you need it.Shifting Privacy Left MediaWhere privacy engineers gather, share, & learnDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Copyright © 2022 - 2024 Principled LLC. All rights reserved.

    • 54 min

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