This podcast on a warm but very windy day in the valley of a mountain, is what we found when we visited Gwytherin in North Wales, where St Winifride is reported to have been buried. Legend has it that the bones still remain there under the four ancient yews. A local person tells me of the problems faced by churchgoers, as even with large numbers of pilgrims Conway Council seem to have denied planning permission to the two members of the congregation who bought it from the Church in Wales to re-open it for services. There are ancient Druid Stones- and it is almost certainly an ancient site when St Beuno opened the 'Llan' there and installed his niece St Winifride as Superior, a place where she worked for thirty years more and then died. I will deal more with Winifride (or Gwenfrewi's) story when we talk specifically about the well.