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Loud Murmurs is a Mandarin-Chinese podcast about American pop culture, brought to you by four bilingual and bi-cultural women in the U.S. and their friends. We discuss movies, TV, documentaries, and the social, political issues reflected on by a piece of pop culture work. Too often, race, gender and other political and cultural issues are the subtext in pop culture. We seek to make the subtext explicit, question it and challenge it. The show is now in its third season, updated biweekly. We have interviewed guests ranging from science fiction writers, comedians, to scholars and journalists. Our goal is to make the most thought-provoking Chinese podcast about American pop culture. 小声喧哗是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。《小声喧哗》Loud Murmurs, 是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。文化和审美的自觉认同从来都是隐含在创造者对世界的想象中,而这样的想象催生出许多充满偏见的创造动机。这样的创造动机渗透在我们日复一日热爱的欧美电影中,美剧里,渗透在我们对于事物的认知中。今天,我们想要去挑战它。紧跟影视热点和时事的同时,保持了双周频率的持续输出。在制作节目时,小声喧哗经常邀请学者和影评人参与我们的节目,使节目的观点更加多元化和专业。小声喧哗致力在中文世界,做最好的流行文化播客。

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Loud Murmurs is a Mandarin-Chinese podcast about American pop culture, brought to you by four bilingual and bi-cultural women in the U.S. and their friends. We discuss movies, TV, documentaries, and the social, political issues reflected on by a piece of pop culture work. Too often, race, gender and other political and cultural issues are the subtext in pop culture. We seek to make the subtext explicit, question it and challenge it. The show is now in its third season, updated biweekly. We have interviewed guests ranging from science fiction writers, comedians, to scholars and journalists. Our goal is to make the most thought-provoking Chinese podcast about American pop culture. 小声喧哗是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。《小声喧哗》Loud Murmurs, 是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。文化和审美的自觉认同从来都是隐含在创造者对世界的想象中,而这样的想象催生出许多充满偏见的创造动机。这样的创造动机渗透在我们日复一日热爱的欧美电影中,美剧里,渗透在我们对于事物的认知中。今天,我们想要去挑战它。紧跟影视热点和时事的同时,保持了双周频率的持续输出。在制作节目时,小声喧哗经常邀请学者和影评人参与我们的节目,使节目的观点更加多元化和专业。小声喧哗致力在中文世界,做最好的流行文化播客。

    S4 E13 “I’m a helpless believer in love” — A conversation with “Word of Honor” screenwriter Xiaochu

    S4 E13 “I’m a helpless believer in love” — A conversation with “Word of Honor” screenwriter Xiaochu

    [Episode theme]
    This episode is the edited version of Afra and Izzy’s interview with Xiaochu, screenwriter of the popular Chinese wuxia fantasy “Word of Honor.” We talked about why the show is well-received outside China, her experience studying and trying to make it as a producer in the movie industry in LA, and her understanding of the characters Zhou Zishu and Wen Kexing. There’s also a Q&A with three fans of the show at the end and Xiaochu’s special English message to fans overseas. Listen till the end! 

    [Timecode]
    1:38 How do you feel about the popularity of “Word of Honor” overseas? Did you expect this? 
    5:54 Xiaochu originally wanted to become a producer and studied film in Los Angeles. What made you decide to go back to China after graduation?
    8:39 Why does this show appeal to so many women? How do the two main characters challenge gender norms?
    11:08 Xiaochu’s thought process for writing the in-depth character profile for Zhou Zishu in the early stages of writing the show 
     12:36 Xiaochu talks about the parodies and reactions to “Word of Honor” on the internet
    15:49 What’s her favorite TV show these days?
    17:38 If she were a character in the world of wuxia, what kind of character would she be? 
    20:00 Is “Word of Honor” a show that pushes back against workism? 
    22:30 Female characters in “Word of Honor” 
    25:36 The relationship between Cao Weining and Guo Xiang 
    28:28 What’s the one thing Xiaochu insists on keeping intact for the story, despite pressure from others 
    31: 08 Xiaochu: my mother is the biggest fan of internet reaction to WoH 
    32:38 How does WoH overcome the barrier of language and culture and appeal to overseas audience 
    35:16 How does Zhou Zishu reconcile with his initial rebellion against authority and his return to order towards the end of the story?
    38: 30 Which scenes or plots didn’t make it into the show? Does Xiaochu want to write out what their life is like after the finale? 
    [Guest introduction]
    Xiaochu: screenwriter of “Word of Honor” 
    [Audio editor]
    Izzy

    [Highlights]
    Xiaochu: “Personally I’m a totally helpless believer of love, so it means the world to me to see my expression to be heard, to be seen, to be answered by people from so many different cultural backgrounds.” 

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    【Links & resources】
    Our previous episode on “Word of Honor” https://www.buzzsprout.com/258327/8435030-s4-e7-word-of-honor-a-beautiful-queer-fantasy-for-straight-eyes 
    Boys Keep Flirting With Each Other on Chinese TV But Never Fall in Love by Viola Zhou 
    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k95mg/boys-love-drama-china-tv-untamed-lgbtq  


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    • 50 min
    S4 E12 Cruella: The Rebooted Disney Villain is Dressed to Kill

    S4 E12 Cruella: The Rebooted Disney Villain is Dressed to Kill

    “Cruella” is Disney’s latest live-action release where a beloved old movie gets a brand new life, starring two crowd-favorite Emmas: Emma Stone and Emma Thompson. Izzy and Diaodiao saw the movie together in the theater, and they dive into the themes of the movie, the complicated history of Disney villains, and the problematic elements in the movie that made us cringe (queerbaiting alert!)

    【Timecodes】
    3:52 “Cruella” is way more awesome when watched in theaters and with friends 7:39 Disney villains: the moral and societal values they represent 9:29 Who is Cruella (old and new)17:00-17:52 SPOILERS19:02 Cruella as a punk icon and fashion icon 25:36-26:07 What’s Cruella rebelling against? SPOILERS28:55 The commodification of Disney villains 29:38 Queerness and queer baiting in Disney movies 31:27-31:39 SKIP FOR SPOILERS【Audio editor】
    Joshua Odgen Davis 
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    【Links & resources】
    幕后访谈丨为Cruella设计47套衣服的设计师:70岁,全世界淘古着找灵感How Cruella’s Costume Designer Turned Emma Stone Into an Impossibly Stylish SupervillainRiot, Rebel, Revolt: The Rise of Vivienne Westwood【Business collabs】
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    • 38 min
    S4 E11 ‘Sound of Metal’ — A Window Into Deaf Culture (Part Two)

    S4 E11 ‘Sound of Metal’ — A Window Into Deaf Culture (Part Two)

    In this episode, we continue our conversation on ‘Sound of Metal’, a movie about a drummer whose sudden loss of hearing puts him on an unlikely journey of growth and self-discovery. We also discuss how little we know about the Deaf and Hard of Hearing community.  The conversation is so good and so long that we split it into two parts.  See full transcript in Chinese for part 2 here. 
    【Timecodes】
    3:37 Xinke share her thoughts on the errors in ‘Sound of Metal’ 8:33 the overly complicated U.S. healthcare and insurance system 11:02 we discuss the audism and ableism in the movie15:56 the candid portrayal of the Deaf and Hard of Hearing community in the movie 17:13 Yiru shares her experience with Deaf education through music20:25 cochlear implants: Ruben and Xinke’s experiences26:00 the controversy around cochlear implants35:19 the significance of the Deaf and Hard of Hearing community38:05 What can we do to challenge ableism and audism in our day to day lives【Guest introduction】
    Xinke Liu (she/her) is the co-founder of a startup that provides medical-grade hearing aids for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing. She wore hearing aids in her teenage years and underwent the procedure to have cochlear implants after college. She is currently based in China. 
    Yiru Chen (she/her) graduated from NYU Tisch School of the Arts with a major in Film and TV production and minors in Psychology and American Sign Language. She is currently a student of the MA program in Deaf and Hard of Hearing Education at Teachers College, Columbia University.  She is an active member of both Shanghai and New York signing communities and her goal is to promote sign language education and arts in both countries. Her film “Handscape” has been screened at multiple film festivals in and out of China.  
    【Audio editor】
    Joshua Ogden-Davis 
    【Too long didn’t listen】
    This is not your typical story of a person overcoming hardship to find himself. It’s not even that inspirational. What it does achieve is portraying one aspect of the vastly diverse and complicated Deaf community to the mainstream hearing community. It’s up to us to learn and educate ourselves about the rest. 
    【Be our sponsor】
    Please consider supporting us on Patreon (in USD, suitable for listeners who live in the U.S.) or Patreon 's Chinese equivalent (in RMB)
    【Links & resources】
    Handscape, directed by Yiru Chen36kr interview with Evoco Labs Good resources on the Deaf and Hard of Hearing community in China:  守语者(shouyuzhe2014)你看起来好动听手屿Relevant MoviesFeeling ThroughChild of Lesser God【Business collabs】
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    • 50 min
    S4 E10 ‘Sound of Metal’ — A Window Into Deaf Culture (Part One)

    S4 E10 ‘Sound of Metal’ — A Window Into Deaf Culture (Part One)

    This week, we talk about the movie ‘Sound of Metal,’ a story about a drummer (played by Riz Ahmed) whose sudden loss of hearing puts him on an unlikely journey of growth and self-discovery. We also discuss how little we know about the Deaf and Hard of Hearing community, about sign language and Deaf culture. 
    The conversation is so good and so long that we split it into two parts. See full transcript in Chinese for part 1 here.
    【Timecodes】
    3:15 Brief introduction to Sound of Metal8:56 Our first impressions of the film18:15 On-screen moments that moved us: seeing a hearing guide dog, ASL, and deaf music education 20:55 The exquisite sound design of the movie 25:48 What’s currently missing from mainstream awareness of the Deaf and Hard of Hearing Community, what are the 4 deaf identities, ASL (American Sign Language) as a language, what is Deaf culture 36:48 Why we need to cast more deaf actors in deaf roles44:14 ASL as a language and its role in forming a community 【Guest introduction】
    Xinke Liu (she/her) is the co-founder of a startup that provides medical-grade hearing aids for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing. She wore hearing aids in her teenage years and underwent the procedure to have cochlear implants after college. She is currently based in China. 
    Yiru Chen (she/her) graduated from NYU Tisch School of the Arts with a major in Film and TV production and minors in Psychology and American Sign Language. She is currently a student of the MA program in Deaf and Hard of Hearing Education at Teachers College, Columbia University.  She is an active member of both Shanghai and New York signing communities and her goal is to promote sign language education and arts in both countries. Her film “Handscape” has been screened at multiple film festivals in and out of China.  
    【Audio editor】
    Joshua Ogden-Davis 
    【Too long didn’t listen】
    This is not your typical story of a person overcoming hardship to find himself. It’s not even that inspirational. What it does achieve is portraying one aspect of the vastly diverse and complicated Deaf community to the mainstream hearing community. It’s up to us to learn and educate ourselves about the rest. 
    【Be our sponsor】
    Please consider supporting us on Patreon (in USD, suitable for listeners who live in the U.S.) or Patreon 's Chinese equivalent (in RMB)
    【Links & resources】
    Handscape, directed by Yiru Chen 36kr interview with Evoco Labs Good resources on the Deaf and Hard of Hearing community in China:  守语者(shouyuzhe2014)你看起来好动听手屿Relevant MoviesFeeling ThroughChild of Lesser God【Business collabs】
    Please reach out to us at loudmurmursfm@gmail.com for any business inquiries. 
    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

    • 49 min
    S4 E9 We talked to a therapist about “WandaVision”

    S4 E9 We talked to a therapist about “WandaVision”

    “WandaVision” takes place after Thanos snapped his fingers and eliminated half of the people in the universe in Avengers: Infinity War. The show departs from the usual superhero Marvel movies in a number of significant ways: it’s a TV show, the main character is a woman, the heart of the story is about grieving, trauma and intimacy. 
    Like people in the Marvel universe, we all collectively lived through a traumatic event on a global scale and are still far from being completely free from the influence of the pandemic. It’s been said that WandaVision is a pandemic parable. Barring from the typical third act CGI light beam fight in the sky, this story has a lot of elements we can all relate to: living in our TV, being stuck at home and isolated, processing waves of direct and indirect grief. So today, we invited an actual therapist to talk to us about WandaVision. 
    Guest: Lola, she/her, licensed therapist based in Chicago. She founded a social-justice informed Fig Tree Counseling (figtreechi.com) in 2019. 
    Disclaimer: We spoiled this how, thoroughly, so know this before you listen. Thanks!  
    We Talked About:
    04:16 Why we love WandaVision, and why this is not your typical superhero story. 07:53 How does the show deal with the concept of “trauma”? How does Wanda try to regain control? How does the show visualize grief?12:00 How does the show portray the five stages of grief? 15:12 How does Wanda’s childhood trauma shape her as a character? Agatha — the unlicensed therapist. 19:39 How do we find power in grief? 21:03 Monica Rambeau and Wanda’s friendship 23:34 How should we understand the line “What is grief if not love persevering”? Is the goal of grieving to move on and to forget? 26:16 The moral questions of Wanda’s way of dealing with her personal grief 29:10 Hurt people hurt people. How do we avoid infecting others with our own emotional problems? 32:00 What is it like to lose your partner/spouse? How can therapy help? 35:50 WandaVision is a pandemic parable, so what can we learn from it? 42:00 How to take your first step with therapy? 

    Links: 
    ‘WandaVision,’ a sitcom sendup, was a pandemic parable, too
    ‘WandaVision’ Lives Inside TV. Just Like We Do.


    Find Loud Murmurs in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review. 
    RSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rss Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0Z Google play: goo.gl/KjRYPN Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRB Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=544416&refid=stpr Pocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLid Overcast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs. 
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    • 45 min
    S4 E8 The Underwhelming Yet Controversial 2021 Oscars

    S4 E8 The Underwhelming Yet Controversial 2021 Oscars

    This episode, we unpacked our reactions to the 93rd Academy Awards that honored films created in 2020 with our dear friend Eileen Chow. Despite being a particularly underwhelming viewing experience, the Oscars created cultural moments that sparked heated discussion across China, the US, and all diaspora in between. We talked about:
    1:20 The “Diet Oscars” of 20217:50 Chole Zhao’s Nomadland acceptance speech is a phenomenal cross-cultural pop-culture moment15:00 The controversy of quoting “Three Character Classic”30:10 Best Male Lead -  “The Father” and many issues in Oscar planning34:31 Best Supporting Male Actor - “Judas and the Black Messiah”37:10 Best Editing - “Sound of Metal”39:39 Best Animated Feature Nominee - “Wolfwalker”41:20 Best Documentary Nominee -“Crip Camp”48:50 Youn Yuh-jung couldn’t care less about Brad Pitt and we are very here for it

    Find Loud Murmurs in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review. 
    RSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rss Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0Z Google play: goo.gl/KjRYPN Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRB Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=544416&refid=stpr Pocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLid Overcast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs. 
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    • 57 min

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