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PsychEd Episode 34: Ketamine for Treatment-Resistant Depression with Dr. Sandhya Prashad PsychEd: educational psychiatry podcast

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Welcome to PsychEd, the psychiatry podcast for medical learners, by medical learners.
This episode covers ketamine for treatment-resistant depression (TRD) with Dr. Sandhya Prashad, a psychiatrist and the founder and medical director of Houston Ketamine Therapeutics. She has extensive expertise using ketamine and is one of the most experienced ketamine psychiatrists in the United States, with her clinical practice focusing on TRD and incorporating transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS), sometimes in conjunction with ketamine. Dr. Prashad is also a founding member and current president of the American Society of Ketamine Physicians (ASKP), a non-profit organization created to advocate for the safe use of ketamine for mental illness and pain disorders and to expand access to ketamine therapy.
 
We’re also experimenting with something new for this episode — providing a transcript of the entire interview! The transcript can be found at psychedpodcast.org/transcripts/ketamine. We’d love to hear your feedback as listeners on this as a feature, including whether it’s something you’d be interested in seeing for other episodes moving forward!
 
The learning objectives for this episode are as follows:
 
By the end of this episode, you should be able to…
Describe ketamine and how it came to be used in the field of psychiatry. Develop an appreciation for benefits and potential harms associated with ketamine and how this compares to other treatments for depression. Understand how ketamine fits into the treatment of depression and suicidality, patient characteristics to consider before initiation, potential mechanisms of action, different models of administration, and incorporation of psychotherapy.  
Guest expert: Dr. Sandhya Prashad
 
Hosts: Jimmy Qian (MS2), Dr. Nikhita Singhal (PGY2), Dr. Chase Thompson (PGY3)
 
Audio editing by: Dr. Chase Thompson
 
Show notes by: Gray Meckling (MS4)
 
Interview transcript by: Gray Meckling
 
00:00 – Introduction
03:00 – Learning objectives
03:30 – History of ketamine
06:20 – Recreational use of ketamine, phenomenology of the ketamine experience
09:45 – Where does ketamine fall in the algorithm for treatment of depression?
11:50 – Ketamine’s use in acute suicidality
13:40 – Ketamine contraindications
14:40 – Ketamine efficacy
19:00 – Combining ketamine with rTMS
21:15 – Limitations to ketamine
24:35 – Ketamine mechanism of action
26:05 – Ketamine formulations, and integrating ketamine into psychotherapy
33:10 – Combining ketamine with traditional antidepressant treatment
37:30 – Practicalities of administering ketamine
39:40 – Ketamine as treatment for OCD and PTSD
41:40 – Closing remarks
 
Resources:
American Society of Ketamine Physicians, Psychotherapists & Practitioners (ASKP) Sandhya Prashad, MD (Website) NEJM interview with Dr. Roy Perlis: Esketamine for Treatment-Resistant Depression — First FDA-Approved Antidepressant in a New Class  
References:
Berman, R., Cappiello, A., Anand, A., Oren, D., Heninger, G., Charney, D.. (2000) Antidepressant effects of ketamine in depressed patients. Biol Psychiatry 47: 351–354. Daly, E. J., Trivedi, M. H., Janik, A., Li, H., Zhang, Y., Li, X., ... & Thase, M. E. (2019). Efficacy of esketamine nasal spray plus oral antidepressant treatment for relapse prevention in patients with treatment-resistant depression: a randomized clinical trial. JAMA psychiatry, 76(9), 893-903. J.W. Murrough, D.V. Iosifescu, L.C. Chang, et al. Antidepressant efficacy of ketamine in treatment-resistant major depression: a two site randomized controlled trial. Am. J. Psychiatry, 2013 (170) (2013), pp. 1134-1142 Kim, J., Farchione, T., Potter, A., Chen, Q., & Temple, R. (2019). Esketamine for treatment-resistant depression-first FDA-approved antidepressant in a new class. N Engl J Med, 381(1), 1-4. McIntyre, R. S., Rosenblat, J. D., Nemeroff, C. B., Sanacora, G., Murrough, J.

Welcome to PsychEd, the psychiatry podcast for medical learners, by medical learners.
This episode covers ketamine for treatment-resistant depression (TRD) with Dr. Sandhya Prashad, a psychiatrist and the founder and medical director of Houston Ketamine Therapeutics. She has extensive expertise using ketamine and is one of the most experienced ketamine psychiatrists in the United States, with her clinical practice focusing on TRD and incorporating transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS), sometimes in conjunction with ketamine. Dr. Prashad is also a founding member and current president of the American Society of Ketamine Physicians (ASKP), a non-profit organization created to advocate for the safe use of ketamine for mental illness and pain disorders and to expand access to ketamine therapy.
 
We’re also experimenting with something new for this episode — providing a transcript of the entire interview! The transcript can be found at psychedpodcast.org/transcripts/ketamine. We’d love to hear your feedback as listeners on this as a feature, including whether it’s something you’d be interested in seeing for other episodes moving forward!
 
The learning objectives for this episode are as follows:
 
By the end of this episode, you should be able to…
Describe ketamine and how it came to be used in the field of psychiatry. Develop an appreciation for benefits and potential harms associated with ketamine and how this compares to other treatments for depression. Understand how ketamine fits into the treatment of depression and suicidality, patient characteristics to consider before initiation, potential mechanisms of action, different models of administration, and incorporation of psychotherapy.  
Guest expert: Dr. Sandhya Prashad
 
Hosts: Jimmy Qian (MS2), Dr. Nikhita Singhal (PGY2), Dr. Chase Thompson (PGY3)
 
Audio editing by: Dr. Chase Thompson
 
Show notes by: Gray Meckling (MS4)
 
Interview transcript by: Gray Meckling
 
00:00 – Introduction
03:00 – Learning objectives
03:30 – History of ketamine
06:20 – Recreational use of ketamine, phenomenology of the ketamine experience
09:45 – Where does ketamine fall in the algorithm for treatment of depression?
11:50 – Ketamine’s use in acute suicidality
13:40 – Ketamine contraindications
14:40 – Ketamine efficacy
19:00 – Combining ketamine with rTMS
21:15 – Limitations to ketamine
24:35 – Ketamine mechanism of action
26:05 – Ketamine formulations, and integrating ketamine into psychotherapy
33:10 – Combining ketamine with traditional antidepressant treatment
37:30 – Practicalities of administering ketamine
39:40 – Ketamine as treatment for OCD and PTSD
41:40 – Closing remarks
 
Resources:
American Society of Ketamine Physicians, Psychotherapists & Practitioners (ASKP) Sandhya Prashad, MD (Website) NEJM interview with Dr. Roy Perlis: Esketamine for Treatment-Resistant Depression — First FDA-Approved Antidepressant in a New Class  
References:
Berman, R., Cappiello, A., Anand, A., Oren, D., Heninger, G., Charney, D.. (2000) Antidepressant effects of ketamine in depressed patients. Biol Psychiatry 47: 351–354. Daly, E. J., Trivedi, M. H., Janik, A., Li, H., Zhang, Y., Li, X., ... & Thase, M. E. (2019). Efficacy of esketamine nasal spray plus oral antidepressant treatment for relapse prevention in patients with treatment-resistant depression: a randomized clinical trial. JAMA psychiatry, 76(9), 893-903. J.W. Murrough, D.V. Iosifescu, L.C. Chang, et al. Antidepressant efficacy of ketamine in treatment-resistant major depression: a two site randomized controlled trial. Am. J. Psychiatry, 2013 (170) (2013), pp. 1134-1142 Kim, J., Farchione, T., Potter, A., Chen, Q., & Temple, R. (2019). Esketamine for treatment-resistant depression-first FDA-approved antidepressant in a new class. N Engl J Med, 381(1), 1-4. McIntyre, R. S., Rosenblat, J. D., Nemeroff, C. B., Sanacora, G., Murrough, J.

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