The RunOut Podcast Andrew Bisharat & Chris Kalous

Our guest today is #71 for the New York Jets: Wes Schweitzer, an offensive guard whose injuries sent him down a curious path of recovery: rock climbing. Since discovering the sport, Wes has fallen in love with climbing and uses it as a tool to improve his performance on and off the field. At 6’4” 330-pounds, Wes is considered one of the strongest lineman in the game, putting up 765-pound deadlifts well over twice his body weight. As a true professional athlete, Wes delivers some fascinating insights into how both football and climbing training mentalities could benefit from each other.







But first, yr favorite climbing podcasters play a game of Fuck, Marry, Kill with climbing gear.







Our final bit is a track from Harris Freif called “Tortillas and Peanut Butter” off his album Guitar 2.







Show Notes







Follow Wes Schweitzer on Instagram and Twitter







“Meet the 330-pound NFL Lineman Addicted to Rock Climbing”







Check out Harris Freif on Spotify















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Will Moss is a comp climber turned traddie from New York City, who has been quietly ticking some of the hardest gear-protected routes in the country over the past couple of years. His most recent notable ascent is the FA of the Gunks hardest: The Best Things in Life Are Free (5.14d R).







But first, we wind our way into a discussion about the elusive “undercover crusher,” and whether this mythical beast actually climbed the thing before everyone else, or if this is just what some bro is saying in order to take you down a peg or two.







Last, we’re honored to feature the atmospheric music of climber and musician Jessica Kilroy, with her track “It’s Infinite.”







Show Notes







Follow Will Moss on Instagram







William Moss, 18, Establishes 5.14d R Trad in the Gunks via Climbing Magazine







R-Rated: 5.14 Climbing on Marginal Gear on YouTube







About James Litz







Nacho Sanchez on Instagram







Follow Jessica Kilroy on Instagram







Jessica Kilroy Bandcamp







Jessica Kilroy on Spotify







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Will Moss on Brozone (5.14b) at the Gunks. Photo by Gregory Berg

Today’s guest is a climbing icon and legend: the great Beth Rodden. Beth was a youth national comp champ who went on to become one of the greatest female climbers of her time, with important first free ascents of El Cap and single-pitch trad test pieces such as Meltdown, a 5.14c crack that many say is harder and took a decade before it was repeated. Her new book is called A Light Through the Cracks.







But first we talk about the elusive “all-around” climber, with Bronwyn Hodgins at the top of mind. What does it take to be considered a great all-around climber? And is that the future for what we demand of our top-end climbers?







Today’s final bit comes courtesy of the extremely talented Beezer (aka Mason Earle) with the track Loggersports.







Show Notes







Follow Beth Rodden on Instagram







Pre-order A Light Through the Cracks from an independent book store or big one







Follow Bronwyn Hodgins on Instagram







News / post about Bronwyn’s latest redpoint







Watch Bronwyn and Jacob Cook free climb a big wall







Follow Mason Earle on Instagram







Check out Beezer on YouTube







Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast







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Josh Wharton is one of America’s top alpine climbers, with light and fast ascents of iconic peaks from Patagonia to Alaska to the Himalaya. His latest first free ascent with Vince Anderson, is called Suerte (5.13a, WI6, M7, 3,500 feet) and it’s located on Jirishanca (20,100 feet) in Peru. This ascent, which took years to “alpine redpoint,” is featured in a new film headlining Reel Rock 18.







But first, yer friendly RunOut hosts discuss Kalous’ recent trip out to his namesake dance party at the Michigan Ice Fest, where there was more festing than icing.







Our final bit comes courtesy of Evan Philips, fellow podcaster at The Firn Line, with his song Close to Me.







Show Notes







Josh Wharton and Vince Anderson send Suerte on Climbing.com







Reel Rock 18 Spotlight: Jirishanca







Michigan Ice Fest







Chris Kalous Dance Party







The Firn Line podcast







Close to Me on Spotify







Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast







Contact us Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. andrew@runoutpodcast.com // chris@runoutpodcast.com

Dean Fidelman is a legendary climbing photographer, whose body of work and portraitures have come as close to capturing the elusive soul of our sport as any photographer ever has. He’s perhaps best known for his Stone Nudes series of fine-art black-and-white bouldering photographs, but his career first began as a 16 year old kid with a camera, documenting the Stone Masters era of Yosemite and all the legendary characters associated with it. His latest book is “Fidelman: A Body of Work,” an ambitious retrospective that chronicles the career of climbing’s perhaps most ambitious and iconic artist.







But first, yr friendly podcasting hosts wonder whether everyone is making climbing, and training for climbing, way, way, way too complicated.







Our final bit shares an intimate moment between a father and son, resolving a typical schoolyard conflict with a bit of jamming.







Show Notes







“Fidelman: A Body of Work” is available from DiAngelo Publications.







Follow Dean Fidelman on Instagram







Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcastContact us Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. andrew@runoutpodcast.com // chris@runoutpodcast.com

Colorado Climber Get Goin' from his EP Get Goin'









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