The Spin-off KCRW

We're wrapping up four fabulous years of podcasting, but not before one final episode. The Spin-off crew reflects on the upfronts, Cannes vs Netflix, and the future of television.

WEB BONUS: Just in time for the Season 7 finale, we bring you a conversation about The Walking Dead, recorded at the annual gathering of the National Association of Television Program Executives. Michael Schneider sat down with Josh Sapan, the president and CEO of AMC; Gale Anne Hurd, the executive producer of The Walking Dead and Fear the Walking Dead; and Colman Domingo, the actor who plays Victor Strand on Fear the Walking Dead.

People in the industry always joke about Netflix taking over. With Netflix adding more and more kinds of shows, plus movies, have those jokes officially turned to real fear? Plus, it's Emmy season! Oh wait, the Emmys aren't until September? With the amount of campaigning already going on, you wouldn't know it. And is another writers' strike looming on the horizon?

For the third week in a row, Stephen Colbert has bested Jimmy Fallon in the ratings. The current president is no doubt part of the reason. And, in this year's pilot season, overall series orders are down this year, but networks are still dealing with a mid-season logjam.

Long-time TV reporters are finding their beats now apply to politics as the new POTUS continues to be obsessed with ratings. And looking to the year ahead, will broadcast streaming services like CBS All Access be able to break through?

Actors and long-time friends Brian Tyree Henry and Sterling K. Brown tell us how they first met (there were drag queens involved!), their evolving careers and why 2016 was a year that stood out and changed both of their lives. They both played memorable parts on FX shows -- Brown portrayed prosecutor Chris Darden in The People vs. O.J. Simpson and Henry introduced us to rapper Alfred "Paper Boi" Miles on Atlanta.