23. Interspecies ~ a language between us‪?‬ beneath the stream

“Long ago when animals could speak …”. In this episode we explore the boundary lines between non-human species and ourselves, boundary lines that many indigenous peoples - and our ancestors - did not see, and the ability, or not for communication to pass across that boundary. Today, for western society, it is only in children’s novels that animals can speak and be heard.
So much is invested by animals in the biology of communication and we can teach creatures about human communication but is it inconceivable that they have an ability to speak to us in their form? In maintaining scientific distance do we only allowed artists and musicians to show us that other species have ‘language’ and we should not treat the non-human as less than ourselves?
 
THEME MUSIC BY DAVID ROTHENBERG. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. USED BY KIND PERMISSION OF THE ARTIST http://www.davidrothenberg.net 
TOGETHER WITH ADDITIONAL MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE BY DAVID ROTHENBERG
Some of the ideas and references we make in this podcast can be found here:
Sitting Bull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitting_Bull Tales from Ovid - Ted Hughes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_from_Ovid Chaser - border collie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaser_(dog) Kanzi - bonobo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanzi Raven https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RavenGreater Honeyguide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_honeyguideRed-tailed Hawk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-tailed_hawk Watership Down https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watership_Down The Jungle Book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jungle_Book The Chronicles of Narnia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Narnia John Masefield https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_MasefieldSperm Whale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_whale Orca or Killer Whale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_whale Blue Whale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_whale Corky https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corky_(killer_whale) David Rothenberg http://www.davidrothenberg.net Thousand Mile Song https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/jun/07/scienceandnature Birds Why Birds Sing https://www.theguardian.com/books/2005/dec/10/featuresreviews.guardianreview5 Bug Music https://www.bugmusicbook.com Eisteddfod https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisteddfod Jim Nollman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Nollman Dolphin Dreamtime http://www.doyletics.com/_arj1/dolphind.htm Kamchatka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamchatka_Peninsula Henry Beston https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Beston Tree networks https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-whispering-trees-180968084/ Plants and sound https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_bioacoustics Himalayan Balsam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impatiens_glandulifera David Abram https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_AbramBecoming Animal https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/318/becoming-animal-by-david-abram/ Prince Charles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles,_Prince_of_Wales Real Magic - Dean Radin https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/551604/real-magic-by-dean-radin-phd/ Day of the Triffids - John Wyndham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_of_the_Triffids Evelyn Glennie https://www.evelyn.co.uk Monica Gagliano https://www.monicagagliano.com Plant Consciousness https://www.plantconsciousness.com Plant Intelligence and the Imaginal World - Stephen Harrod Buhner https://www.stephenharrodbuhner.com/about/ Kurukindi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ77sYSqD6o