Tamara Rojo knows all about hard work. She has been dancing since she was five. She has won almost every award going for her work, including a CBE. She has spent seven years reconfiguring English National Ballet and had just moved it to a new state-of-the-art venue when the pandemic struck. But she's not giving up. In this podcast, she talks about the importance of ambition, the healing power of baking and how the arts can help us deal with AI.