85. Getting out of defense mode Baby Mamas No Drama with Kail Lowry & Vee Rivera

Vee becomes a Crocs convert and tries to decide what concert she wants to go see. Kail tries to to introduce her kids to old music and is impressed that they are starting to form their own opinions. Kail and Vee contemplate new ways to meet listeners. Vee gives a therapy update and recognizes that her mind goes on the defensive when her motherhood is questioned. They they read a Down in the DM from someone with daddy issues and someone who almost got tricked into legal guardianship.

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