88 episodes

Stuart Bray and Todd Debreceni talk makeup effects and prosthetics.

If you like rubber monsters, prosthetics and gore then you can listen, learn and suggest new episode subjects.

Todd is author of 'Special Makeup Effects For Stage And Screen', what many consider to be the modern makeup FX bible.

Stuart Bray is a working makeup FX artist with many years experienc. Credits include 'Saving Private Ryan', 'Shaun of the Dead', 'Dr Who' and more recently 'Game of Thrones' and 'Dr Strange'.

Email us at stuartandtodd@gmail.com

Battles With Bits of Rubber Stuart Bray and Todd Debreceni

    • Arts
    • 4.9 • 39 Ratings

Stuart Bray and Todd Debreceni talk makeup effects and prosthetics.

If you like rubber monsters, prosthetics and gore then you can listen, learn and suggest new episode subjects.

Todd is author of 'Special Makeup Effects For Stage And Screen', what many consider to be the modern makeup FX bible.

Stuart Bray is a working makeup FX artist with many years experienc. Credits include 'Saving Private Ryan', 'Shaun of the Dead', 'Dr Who' and more recently 'Game of Thrones' and 'Dr Strange'.

Email us at stuartandtodd@gmail.com

    #88 - Adam 'KreatureKid' Dougherty

    #88 - Adam 'KreatureKid' Dougherty

    Adam Dougherty and his company https://www.kreaturekid.com/ are based in Colorado. An incredibly talented artist, he is an inspiring soul who makes things happen with determination and persistent hard work.
    Although he considers himself lazy, his output shows anything but. In particular, his style celebrates the warmth and unique character that Jim Henson created with puppets, and has himself produced some jaw-droppingly effective puppets for various projects such as the upcoming Onyx the Fortuitous and the Talisman of Souls, directed by Andrew Bowser.
    Adam has a flair and a style for big, expressive characters and, as you will hear in the podcast, celebrates and works hard to put practical effects front and centre. He is a sculptor working both digitally and practically, so he understands both sides of the coin. He also has a clear vision of a good story and isn't happy to mindlessly follow the herd.
    We left inspired and impressed! We think you will be too. Check out his homepage, Instagram and YouTube account. It will be time well spent. In particular, this video from ADI (Amalgamated Dynamics) is an excellent account of Adam's journey and is a joy to watch: https://youtu.be/xKEA_JV7jF8
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    Many thanks, as always, for your time checking the stuff out. You can email us directly at stuartandtodd@gmail.com or leave us a voice message on our site.

    If you enjoy this podcast and got something out of it, would you do us a solid and tell just one more person about us? Send them a link and help us grow!

    -Stuart & Todd

    • 1 hr 19 min
    #87 - Frank Ippolito

    #87 - Frank Ippolito

    Frank Ippolito is something of a practical effects polymath. From starting out with makeup effects and putting in solid work in the lab, he has gradually expanded to running a company and crew with impressive credits and a high standard of work.
    Checking out Frank's IMDb, you’ll see a switch around 2016 as he started working on speciality costumes. This is a big overlap in the practical effects industry as creature and ‘hero’ suits become more sophisticated. 

    Frank started as a freelancer doing the thing; now, he runs a shop and has a well-trusted and reliable workforce at his shop, Thingergy INC. Because of his heavy lifting, now a team of folks get work and get paid, and our chat was an amazing dive into how a workshop is set up and run. This is a great episode to listen to if you are serious about getting work in the industry and want to understand how workshops work. 

    We particularly appreciate Frank discussing budgets with actual numbers. Not often will folks spell out the costs of making stuff so clearly, but this is SO important. Often, a suitable budget is put together and whittled down until there is no profit or financial gain from an endeavour.
    It is particularly the case for creative freelancers who are often people pleasers and feel uncomfortable discussing money and defending their costs.
    (Hint: Just because they say they can't afford it doesn't mean you have to work for nothing and do the job! Saying no to something that takes your time and gives nothing in return is often the wisest move.)
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    Many thanks, as always, for your time checking the stuff out. You can email us at stuartandtodd@gmail.com or leave us a voice message on our site.

    If you enjoy this podcast and got something out of it, would you do us a solid and tell just one more person about us? Send them a link and help us grow!

    -Stuart & Todd

    • 1 hr 22 min
    #86 - More Noses, Fewer Horns

    #86 - More Noses, Fewer Horns

    In this episode, we look at a makeup I did nearly 30 years ago at college. Adrian Rigby sent me a remaining original piece from the mould, along with some photos (prints, no less, which I scanned).
    We talk about remembering what you knew then (the past) and how you thought it should be done. You can also advise your old self on how it could be done better using the knowledge you know now (the present) and things you would attain in the future. By seeing your errors written plain, having an actual artefact from the past, you can connect with both then and now. 

    We also answer a few listener questions about how to work out softnesses for appliances and what to include in a successful portfolio.
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    Many thanks, as always, for your time checking the stuff out. You can email us at stuartandtodd@gmail.com or leave us a voice message direct on our site.

    If you enjoy this podcast and got something out of it, would you do us a solid and tell just one more person about us? Send them a link and help us grow!

    -Stuart & Todd

    • 1 hr 1 min
    #85 - Bill Corso

    #85 - Bill Corso

    "Bill, there's a scene where The Blob attacks a woman who's in a 'phone booth and it covers the 'phone booth, it crushes the 'phone booth and here and then it goes on the sidewalk and goes into a gutter and disappears into this sewer."
    I'm just looking at him and I go…"Okay."
    And he says "Figure out how to do that scene!"

    I was, like "Well, what IS The Blob?"
    He goes "I don't know…you come up with something. Come up with 5 things and I'll pick one."
    That was it. That was my first day Bill who? Pardon our manners. We're talking about Emmy and Academy Award winner, Bill Corso, makeup designer extraordinaire, whose credit list is mind-boggling.
    We talk about respect and the future of our industry, which is mainly what this episode is about. There are full-on makeups being done digitally now, but they're being done by people who are not makeup artists. Bill's push is that more makeup people do get involved.
    Rarely is the makeup department consulted when digital modifications are employed which affect makeup so Bill has taken the step of formulating the Digital Makeup Group to address the absence of the makeup artist in the digital process. This is a great episode for those looking to get into the industry!
    Many thanks as always for your time checking the stuff out. You can email us direct at stuartandtodd@gmail.com or leave us a voice message directly on our site.
    -Stuart & Todd

    • 1 hr 52 min
    #84 - Pete Tindall

    #84 - Pete Tindall

    In this episode, we talk with materials maestro Pete Tindall about all things making related, along with a dose of rantage.
    I moan a bit about ZBrush (although I love it) and the fact that despite the terrifying interface and the huge number of tools available in ZBrush, freedom comes from accepting that you likely need only a handful of them.
    Early on in ZBrush, you are can indeed happily ignore most of it with confidence.
    Pete is an adept materials man, knowing and using a broad range of materials. We first met on Batman Begins (2005) where Pete worked in the Bat-suit workshop and miniatures for the monorail sequence.
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    We also start the podcast as usual with a little FX chit-chat and this time we talk about creating the illusion of hard things in soft tissue such as horns protruding from foreheads, teeth showing from exposed gums and foreign bodies sticking out of the skin (knives or arrows for example).
    In the reality of filming, the scene may need to be repeated and used in intense action, so things that are really hard or sharp in real life could break off or cause real injury.
    As a result, often it is made up of either soft or semi-rigid material which looks solid but is safer. Sometimes the thing may be designed to break away, be replaceable if multiple takes are needed, be incredibly lightweight or even detachable so it can be removed when not needed.
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    Many thanks as always for your time checking the stuff out. You can email us direct at stuartandtodd@gmail.com or leave us a voice message directly on our site.
     you enjoy this podcast and got something out of it, would you do us a solid and tell just one person about us? Send them a link and help us grow!
    Stuart & Todd

    • 2 hrs 12 min
    #83 - Ian Morse & Cliff Wallace Part 2

    #83 - Ian Morse & Cliff Wallace Part 2

    Check the shownotes on the blog: https://battleswithbitsofrubber.com/
    This second part of our chat with Ian and Cliff takes a look back at the company they had together, Creature Concepts - or as Ian puts it ‘How not to run a business'.
    Ian and Cliff mentioned Blood On The Satan’s Claw (1971) and I watched it on their recommendation.  It whetted my appetite, and I had to rewatch some of my favourites, The Creeping Flesh, Captain Kronos, Vampire Hunter and of course The Curse Of Frankenstein.
    It also reminds me of the joys of direct-applied makeups. Things like burns, or wound interiors for example have many random details which can be created in different materials. Sculpting in plastiline is the usual method for creating the forms in appliances, but some things are better created - or at least started - using other techniques. 
    Many thanks as always for your time checking the stuff out. You can email us direct at stuartandtodd@gmail.com or leave us a voice message directly on our site.
    If you enjoy this podcast and got something out of it, would you do us a solid and tell just one more person about us? Send them a link and help us grow!
    -Stuart & Todd

    • 1 hr 20 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
39 Ratings

39 Ratings

rmcmua ,

Another brilliant discussion getting me through a long drive home after a long day on set

Packed with info, set life and workshop stories. Love this podcast chilled discussions with two makeup men that aren’t up there own ar$e. What more do you want?

Bcw_Jester ,

Love it !!!

Great way to lose your self for a few hours amazing to listen to at any spare moment truly great work and dedication guys love them all

Gahheeesxjkgssch ,

Amazing

As a second year uni student in special effects make up design and prosthetics this podcast not only helps with my uni research but constantly gives me new and interesting approaches to things! I love listening to the podcast as I work! Thanks guys!

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