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The only certainty in life is change.... but this constantly takes us by surprise. We’re never ready when it happens. It’s painful enough when we choose to do it to ourselves but boy it hurt when it happens TO us.
The Leadership Collection is particularly focused on the human aspect of the business world during the C19 crisis. The purpose of these initial episodes is to get the insider perspective on what is going on in the board rooms across the globe. To gather stories from different sectors and understand who the leaders are behind the decisions being made.

Certain Change: The Leadership Collection Amelia Saberwal

    • Business
    • 5.0, 4 Ratings

The only certainty in life is change.... but this constantly takes us by surprise. We’re never ready when it happens. It’s painful enough when we choose to do it to ourselves but boy it hurt when it happens TO us.
The Leadership Collection is particularly focused on the human aspect of the business world during the C19 crisis. The purpose of these initial episodes is to get the insider perspective on what is going on in the board rooms across the globe. To gather stories from different sectors and understand who the leaders are behind the decisions being made.

    Patrick McCrae, CEO ARTIQ: Leap Before You Look

    Patrick McCrae, CEO ARTIQ: Leap Before You Look

    Patrick founded ARTIQ, a leading art consultancy, in 2009 to bridge the gap between the art and business worlds and to promote a fair deal for artists. He and his team work with businesses to embed creativity into their culture and to harness the great power of art. He has been named ‘Creative Industries Entrepreneur of the Year’.

    I have known Patrick for a great many years. I know him to be ambitious, benevolent and a values driven leader. COVID has not been kind to workplace and hospitality biased businesses. Patrick has had the unenviable task of furloughing staff, whilst continuing to win and deliver work with a reduced team.

    You will find him to be charming, wise and kind.

    Picking up on the strong leadership themes we’re seeing as a thread through these episodes.

    What we learned in this episode:


    Firstly - a strong culture, built before the pandemic, is weathering the storm well
    Also we see again here that a strategy of comms, comms and more comms(!) is a critical factor in keeping a team buoyant.
    An accelerated and regular board collaboration is required to make swift adaptive decisions.
    I LOVED that he didn’t have a business leader to quote as leadership inspiration - W.H Auden will do nicely! The poem is below...

    Please do check out Queer Frontiers: https://www.queerfrontiers.co.uk/ - the pieces are outstanding and support artists who are sadly slipping through the governmental support net.

    Keep your eye on Patrick - he’s regularly in the press making big noise for culture for it’s importance. It’s at the epicentre of what makes us human. And, as an ex-actor myself, I couldn’t agree more.

    You can find him: 

    https://artiq.co/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/pjmccrae/

    and you can find me:

    certainchangepodcast@gmail.com

    https://www.instagram.com/certainchangepodcast/

    https://www.kinestheticacoaching.com/



    Leap Before You Look

    The sense of danger must not disappear:
    The way is certainly both short and steep,
    However gradual it looks from here;
    Look if you like, but you will have to leap.

    Tough-minded men get mushy in their sleep
    And break the by-laws any fool can keep;
    It is not the convention but the fear
    That has a tendency to disappear.

    The worried efforts of the busy heap,
    The dirt, the imprecision, and the beer
    Produce a few smart wisecracks every year;
    Laugh if you can, but you will have to leap.

    The clothes that are considered right to wear
    Will not be either sensible or cheap,
    So long as we consent to live like sheep
    And never mention those who disappear.

    Much can be said for social savoir-faire,
    But to rejoice when no one else is there
    Is even harder than it is to weep;
    No one is watching, but you have to leap.

    A solitude ten thousand fathoms deep
    Sustains the bed on which we lie, my dear:
    Although I love you, you will have to leap;
    Our dream of safety has to disappear.

    -- W. H. Auden (December 1940)

    • 41 min
    Tim Oldman, Leesman: Workplace Magic Fairy Dust

    Tim Oldman, Leesman: Workplace Magic Fairy Dust

    Tim set Leesman up 10 years ago. A purpose driven mission to measure workplace experience (via employee surveys), to enable holistic people focused real estate decision making. With exponential growth and over 700,000 respondents COVID stopped play overnight - there were no workplaces to measure... So they diversified (and bloody quickly too!) to measure the employee home working experience.

    We find in this episode  he has his finger directly on the pulse of how the crisis has affected varying organisations and sectors. So, some super live insights about the value proposition of corporate workplace.  

    As for Leesman itself, we find here how Tim has been steering the ship and what he's missing about being with his team and clients. He speaks about how clear purpose requires clear communication, how they were able to diversify so quickly and are potentially coming out of COVID stronger.

    The Leesman culture doubles down on their own employee experience - practising what they preach.  High standards are backed by strong training and personal and professional development, with autonomy and creativity as core values... all of which I have personally experienced having coached some of his team members. 

    You will find Tim to be a strong and emotionally intelligent leader. Not afraid to say it how it is and yet accessible and kind. It is this leadership style that creates some of the 'magic fairy dust' of the Leesman workplace experience. 



    Where you can find Tim:

    Leesman - https://www.leesmanindex.com/

    Also mentioned:

    Recent Webinar on home working experience findings - after 10,000 respondents - 

    https://leesmanindex.zoom.us/rec/share/_vx-cZvw5jlOQZWd6GvRf645RqTCeaa81CBIrvQIyk-TfoPtoAxuI4gIf10vlOfU?mc_cid=4ae4a0393d&mc_eid=26882a8413 (password - 0B#417C3)

    BCorp - https://bcorporation.net/

    And here's me! Amelia Saberwal:

    w: www.kinestheticacoaching.com

    e: certainchangepodcast@gmail.com

    i: @certainchangepodcast

    • 57 min
    James Townsend, Kontor: Foresight is 20/20

    James Townsend, Kontor: Foresight is 20/20

    James Townsend, Co-Founder of Kontor speaks to me this week.

    Kontor is a highly successful and respected commercial real estate agency in London and, more recently, New York.

    When I first met James they were a niche agency - they were born out of seeing the need for agile workspaces and flexible leases especially in the flourishing tech sector. The big commercial office agencies and many of the landlords at the time were static and old school. Kontor really shook the market up. They were a critical part of growing the WeWork model in Europe and in bringing it to London originally. The rest, in the coworking story, is history. They have gone from strength to strength and now compete in the top 5 agencies in London and are starting to scare them in New York too!

    What you will find in this episode is how they had the foresight to plan for the worst and hope for the best. The plan ensured confident, swift decision making when the worst hit. You will also discover that James is down to earth, super humble and cares A LOT for his team. Having built a culture of loyalty through promoting transparency, honesty and autonomy, his crew have stayed buoyant and fighting fit through this hardship.

    • 48 min
    Sarah Kay, Woods Bagot: COVID time: 7 Years in 1 Week

    Sarah Kay, Woods Bagot: COVID time: 7 Years in 1 Week

    This episode's guest is Sarah Kay, Global Client Experience Leader, a Director and member of the Board at Woods Bagot, a global architectural firm with over 1000 staff with 16 studios in 5 regions. She is based in Sydney, Australia.

    Sarah has a deep understanding of the challenges facing global organisations - keeping pace with a fast-changing world - looks like she’s definitely got her work cut out for her these days!!

    It felt really right to ask her to be my first guest for Certain Change because of her unique leadership style. She leads from heart and head. She has a global perspective and she’s human…. She won't give me political BS or a bragging point of view. She’s always been so frank and so kind. I hugely admire her and the work she does.

    She describes what's its like to lead through the 'whirlpool' that COVID threw us into. How she needed to design new comms, new ways of being and new ways of checking in with global teams in order to keep the ship afloat. 

    We mention National Australia Bank in the episode - if you haven't seen it, it's the most awesome Activity Based Working office and was top ranking for years after its inception. Check it out here - https://www.woodsbagot.com/projects/national-australia-bank-docklands/

    To get in touch with me:

    Insta: @certainchangepodcast 

    Email: certainchangepodcast@gmail.com 

    Website: https://www.kinestheticacoaching.com/

    • 42 min

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