DevSecOps or SecDevOps with Wabbi's Brittany Greenfield Hanselminutes with Scott Hanselman

DevSecOps vs. SecDevOps vs. DevOpsSec: Is there really a difference in these secure DevOps terms? We all agree we need to not only secure DevOps but we want secure software to pop out the other side of our ops pipelines. Folks often have 'security teams' that are separate...how important is it to get not just a segment in the DevOps pipeline but really integrated end to end? Scott chats with Wabbi's Brittany Greenfield about the future of DevOps+Security.