48 min

Ep 2 Hollie McNish: Sex Education and Shame Page

    • Society & Culture

TW // References to rape and Jimmy Savile. //


Today’s guest is the awesome, straight-talking Hollie McNish. Hollie is a spoken-word poet, who won the Ted Hughes Award. We dive into PAGE 336 of her latest book, 'Slug'. 'Slug' fuses prose and poetry and tackles a huge range of subjects, from swimming naked in Finland to period pants to the pain of attending her Granny’s funeral on her laptop during lockdown. I picked PAGE 336 because, like Hollie, I believe sex education in Britain needs a drastic overhaul. Here, Hollie unpicks her memories of how girls were shamed at school if they admitted to masturbating. She looks at why many girls and women still feel shame about touching their own bodies, whilst historically boys have been able to joke about, and even celebrate, masturbation. Hollie advocates for school-age children to be shown accurate diagrams of their genitals and that girls should be encouraged to explore their own bodies before pleasing anyone else.


Hollie talks about why it’s so important to be honest about sex, pleasure and consent when talking to your children, and the dark and dangerous places shame can lead us. Especially the message to girls that they should expect pain during intercourse.


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Links:


Slug And Other Things I’ve Been Told To Hate by Hollie McNish - https://uk.bookshop.org/books/slug-the-sunday-times-bestseller/9780349726359


The Eve Appeal - https://eveappeal.org.uk


School of Sexuality Education - https://schoolofsexed.org


Sex Positive Families on Instagram @sexpositive_families


Sex Doctor on Instagram @thesexdoctor


Alice Hoyle relationship and sex education expert - https://www.alicehoyle.co.uk


Sex Ed: An Inclusive Teenage Guide to Sex and Relationships - https://uk.bookshop.org/books/sex-ed-an-inclusive-teenage-guide-to-sex-and-relationships/9781406399080


Great Relationships and Sex Education by Alice Hoyle and Esther McGeeney - https://uk.bookshop.org/books/great-relationships-and-sex-education-200-activities-for-educators-working-with-young-people/9780815393634


Period Power by Maisie Hill - https://uk.bookshop.org/books/period-power-harness-your-hormones-and-get-your-cycle-working-for-you/9781472963611


What is a Period? by Nikki Tajiri - https://www.amazon.co.uk/What-Period-Nikki-Tajiri/dp/B08XZGJC23/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1UJ7HF2O953HZ&keywords=What+is+a+Period%3F&qid=1645019717&sprefix=what+is+a+period+%2Caps%2C129&sr=8-1



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Social Media:


Abby on Twitter and Instagram - @AbbyHollick
Hollie on Twitter and Instagram - @holliepoetry


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Page is hosted and produced by Abby Hollick for Good Tape. To contact us, email abby@goodtape.org


Sound Engineers: Hunter Charlton and Chris Sharp
Original Music: Paddy Gervers and Rob Sell for Torch and Compass
Graphic Designer: Tim Hughes
Web Support: Daniel Benoliel

TW // References to rape and Jimmy Savile. //


Today’s guest is the awesome, straight-talking Hollie McNish. Hollie is a spoken-word poet, who won the Ted Hughes Award. We dive into PAGE 336 of her latest book, 'Slug'. 'Slug' fuses prose and poetry and tackles a huge range of subjects, from swimming naked in Finland to period pants to the pain of attending her Granny’s funeral on her laptop during lockdown. I picked PAGE 336 because, like Hollie, I believe sex education in Britain needs a drastic overhaul. Here, Hollie unpicks her memories of how girls were shamed at school if they admitted to masturbating. She looks at why many girls and women still feel shame about touching their own bodies, whilst historically boys have been able to joke about, and even celebrate, masturbation. Hollie advocates for school-age children to be shown accurate diagrams of their genitals and that girls should be encouraged to explore their own bodies before pleasing anyone else.


Hollie talks about why it’s so important to be honest about sex, pleasure and consent when talking to your children, and the dark and dangerous places shame can lead us. Especially the message to girls that they should expect pain during intercourse.


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Links:


Slug And Other Things I’ve Been Told To Hate by Hollie McNish - https://uk.bookshop.org/books/slug-the-sunday-times-bestseller/9780349726359


The Eve Appeal - https://eveappeal.org.uk


School of Sexuality Education - https://schoolofsexed.org


Sex Positive Families on Instagram @sexpositive_families


Sex Doctor on Instagram @thesexdoctor


Alice Hoyle relationship and sex education expert - https://www.alicehoyle.co.uk


Sex Ed: An Inclusive Teenage Guide to Sex and Relationships - https://uk.bookshop.org/books/sex-ed-an-inclusive-teenage-guide-to-sex-and-relationships/9781406399080


Great Relationships and Sex Education by Alice Hoyle and Esther McGeeney - https://uk.bookshop.org/books/great-relationships-and-sex-education-200-activities-for-educators-working-with-young-people/9780815393634


Period Power by Maisie Hill - https://uk.bookshop.org/books/period-power-harness-your-hormones-and-get-your-cycle-working-for-you/9781472963611


What is a Period? by Nikki Tajiri - https://www.amazon.co.uk/What-Period-Nikki-Tajiri/dp/B08XZGJC23/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1UJ7HF2O953HZ&keywords=What+is+a+Period%3F&qid=1645019717&sprefix=what+is+a+period+%2Caps%2C129&sr=8-1



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Social Media:


Abby on Twitter and Instagram - @AbbyHollick
Hollie on Twitter and Instagram - @holliepoetry


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Page is hosted and produced by Abby Hollick for Good Tape. To contact us, email abby@goodtape.org


Sound Engineers: Hunter Charlton and Chris Sharp
Original Music: Paddy Gervers and Rob Sell for Torch and Compass
Graphic Designer: Tim Hughes
Web Support: Daniel Benoliel

48 min

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