9 episodes

Welcome to The Overlap's historical football podcast, It Was What It Was.
Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world today.
The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. providing details from behind the scenes and offering vital historical context.
If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode.

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    • 4.6 • 45 Ratings

Welcome to The Overlap's historical football podcast, It Was What It Was.
Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world today.
The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. providing details from behind the scenes and offering vital historical context.
If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Euro 2004: Greek Glory, England’s Exit - Part One

    Euro 2004: Greek Glory, England’s Exit - Part One

    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.
    With Euro 2024 approaching this week, we present a special two-part episode on Euro 2004, a tournament where underdogs Greece achieved one of international football’s greatest upsets.
    Regarded as the one that got away from Sven-Goran Eriksson’s Golden Generation England team, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper set the scene with a full detailed look on the group stages.
    From Portugal’s preparation as hosts to their opening defeat by eventual winners Greece and an 18 year-old Wayne Rooney propelling himself to an international icon, part one delves into the story surrounding the nations before the knock-out rounds.  
    Join us for part two on Thursday 13th June where Rob and Jonathan tell the story of Greece manager Otto Rehhagel and the path that led the way to one of football’s biggest ever shocks.
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    • 43 min
    United’s Treble: Sliding Doors to Barcelona

    United’s Treble: Sliding Doors to Barcelona

    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.
     
    Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the sliding doors moments that lead to the Manchester United treble win in 1999.
     
    In the years leading up to Sir Alex Ferguson's greatest achievement, we take a look at some of the key moments that could have changed the course of history: from Maurice Watkins recommending Alex Ferguson as the manager to replace Terry Venables as Barcelona manager in 1986 to Alan Hansen’s infamous comment on Match of the Day as well as United's youth system and signing Eric Cantona. 
     
    It Was What It Was gives a detailed look into the changes that took place at Old Trafford that paved the journey to the treble; including building the squad after the 1994 Champions League loss to Barcelona, new revenue at Old Trafford and the tactical and financial changes at the club. 
     
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    • 50 min
    Reds' in Rome: Liverpool’s 1984 European Cup Story, Part Two

    Reds' in Rome: Liverpool’s 1984 European Cup Story, Part Two

    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.
    In part two of our Reds in Rome story, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the events of the day of the 1984 European Cup final between Roma and Liverpool.
    Having set the scene in part one of our two-part special, Jonathan and Rob reveal insightful stories from inside the Liverpool camp, the real hostilities their fans dealt with and how Joe Fagan’s side managed to win the first ever European Cup penalty shoot-out, which also unearthed Bruce Grobbelaar’s spaghetti legs. 
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    • 37 min
    Reds' in Rome: Liverpool's 1984 European Cup Story, Part One

    Reds' in Rome: Liverpool's 1984 European Cup Story, Part One

    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.
    This week we have a two part special focussing on Liverpool’s 1984 European Cup victory, 40 years on from one of the finest nights in the Reds history.
    Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper discuss the events leading up to the final where Joe Fagan’s side beat Roma in their own stadium as they lifted their fourth European Cup in seven years having already won the league title and league cup in the same season.
    In part one Jonathan and Rob explore where Liverpool were as a club and city along with reliving famous knockout stage contests, including dramatic wins over Benfica and Dinamo Bucuresti where tempers flared on and off the pitch. 
    Join us for part two on Thursday 30th May to listen to the historical European Cup final where Liverpool became the first side to win the final on penalties. 
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    • 37 min
    Farewell Jurgen: Klopp's origin story from Stuttgart to Liverpool

    Farewell Jurgen: Klopp's origin story from Stuttgart to Liverpool

    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.
    Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue the series with a unite insight into the life of Jurgen Klopp.
    Klopp leaves his managerial role at Liverpool having ended their 30 year top flight trophy drought alongside a historic Champions League, FA Cup, League Cup and Club World Cup during a 9-year period that changed Anfield. 
    Rightly regarded as one of the most important managerial spells in the Reds history, Jonathan and Rob explore the events that made Klopp the charismatic manager he is today.
    From his childhood and familial upbringing in Baden-Wurttemberg in Stuttgart to his playing then managerial stint at Mainz - that included an incredible final day of the season encounter - It Was What It Was gives a detailed look into the life of the German manager.
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    • 1 hr 8 min
    Part 2 : Arsenal '89: The Game That Changed Football Forever

    Part 2 : Arsenal '89: The Game That Changed Football Forever

    Welcome back to The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.
     
    On our second and final part of Arsenal ’89: The Game That Change Football Forever, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper re-live the unforgettable final day of the 1988/89 campaign that seen Arsenal leapfrog Liverpool to the First Division title at Anfield.
     
    George Graham’s Arsenal required a two-goal victory in the final match of the season against reigning champions Liverpool to overtake their opponents and pulled off the miracle through second-half goals from Alan Smith and a last gasp strike from Michael Thomas.
     
    Jonathan and Rob discuss the stunning finale to the season, including the events of the day, celebrational aftermath and how the defining game changed English football forever.
     
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    • 35 min

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
45 Ratings

45 Ratings

Phil the daddy ,

Fascinating insights and great story telling

Have really enjoyed listening to these, especially the Liverpool in Rome one. Just a side note on that episode, Phil Neal tells the story that he was meant to be the first penalty taker but Steve Nicol just decided to go first regardless and he was allowed to carry on as it was thought that calling him back would knock his confidence, maybe they should have anyway! Looking forward to hearing more episodes.

Thubs.. ,

Retro Kicks

Really interesting and insightful podcast with well researched details and anecdotes from (what I hope will continue to feature), key matches. Engaging and knowledgeable presenters too-what more could you ask for?

nic-a-1 ,

Good premise, poor production

I really like the premise but the audio quality from Rob Draper’s microphone made it unlistenable to me. I hate sounding like such an audio snob but it feels like such a basic thing to get right if you want something to be successful.

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