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Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez breaks down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.

Law and Chaos Liz Dye

    • Government
    • 5.0 • 12 Ratings

Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez breaks down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.

    Ep 39 — Trump Lawyers Flop Like Ronaldo As Alex Jones Dances Out Of Bankruptcy

    Ep 39 — Trump Lawyers Flop Like Ronaldo As Alex Jones Dances Out Of Bankruptcy

    We update you on the developments at Alex Jones’s two bankruptcy hearings last week and why they were a big win for the conspiracy theorist, with a special deep dive into Article I vs. Article III judges. Then, we discuss the latest from the Supreme court, before turning our attention to the myriad ways in which Donald Trump’s lawyers are still takin’ a dive before Aileen Cannon in the Southern District of Florida, just hoping that she’ll throw that red card.
     
    Links:
    27 CFR Parts 447, 478, and 479
    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2018-12-26/pdf/2018-27763.pdf
    Northern Pipeline Construction Co. v. Marathon Pipe Line Co., 458 U.S. 50 (1982)
    https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17768408304219861886
    Alex Jones personal bankruptcy docket
    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/
    FSS bankruptcy docket
    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64868456/free-speech-systems-llc/
    US v. Trump (SDNY Docket - Judge Cannon)
    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490071/united-states-v-trump/
    US v. Trump, MTD for Surplusage
    https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/trump-motion-indictment-dismiss.pdf 
    US v. Trump, Order on MTD for Surplusage
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.608.0_1.pdf 
    US v. Trump, MTD for Spoliation
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.612.0_1.pdf 
     
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    • 58 min
    Ep 38 — Alex Jones’s Bankruptcy Is TURNIN’ THE FREAKIN’ FROGS GAY!

    Ep 38 — Alex Jones’s Bankruptcy Is TURNIN’ THE FREAKIN’ FROGS GAY!

    It’s another Trump-free extravaganza! We discuss the Hunter Biden conviction, forthcoming sentencing and appeals. Then, Liz and Andrew walk through the Supreme Court’s 9-0 reversal of the Fifth Circuit, protecting – for now! – the right to medical abortion drugs over the internet. Finally, in a lengthy segment (with a long Patreon bonus!), we tell you everything you need to know about a critical juncture in the Alex Jones corporate bankruptcy in the face of likely and deliberate misinformation by Alex Jones regardless of what happens.
     
    Links:
    L&C Episode 28
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-28-throwing-shade-on-the-supreme-court-feat-steve-vladeck/
    FSS - Lee Reply brief re: retention of Schwartz
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.176.0.pdf
    FSS - Hearing transcript re: Shannon & Lee, Schwartz
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.194.0.pdf
    FSS - Order to employ Patrick Magill as Chief Restructuring Officer (October 13, 2022) [Doc. 239]
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.239.0_2.pdf
    FSS - Magill Engagement Agreement
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.205.1.pdf
    FSS - Emergency Motion for Court Instructions Regarding (1) Disposition of Debtors Property, and (2) Clarity as to the Chief Restructuring Officers Responsibilities and Authority, in the Event of Either a Dismissal of This Case or Conversion to Chapter 7
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.933.0.pdf
    ACB article on LLC management
    https://www.americancollegeofbankruptcy.com/file.cfm/29/docs/Consumer%20Panel.Administering%20LLC%20Interests%20in%20Bankruptcy%20-%20Final.Caruso.pdf
    FSS - TX Plaintiff’s Objection
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.945.0.pdf

     
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    • 53 min
    Ep 37 — PA Dad Takes On Moms For Liberty (feat. Joy Ramsingh and Darren Laustsen)

    Ep 37 — PA Dad Takes On Moms For Liberty (feat. Joy Ramsingh and Darren Laustsen)

    Pennsylvania dad Darren Laustsen saw books disappearing from his daughter’s school — books which just so happened to be on the Moms for Liberty hit list. And he did something about it! Andrew and Liz talk to Darren and his lawyer Joy Ramsingh about their open records case that revealed a school board plot to shadowban books.  
    Links:
    Laustsen v. Pennridge SD docket
    https://propublic.buckscountyonline.org/PSI/v/detail/Case/6253965
    SB answer
    https://www.openrecords.pa.gov/Appeals/DocketGetFile.cfm?id=129351
    10/19/23 Order
    https://www.openrecords.pa.gov/Appeals/DocketGetFile.cfm?id=139446
     
    Uncovering the Cover-up: How Republican Pennridge School Board Directors Secretly Banned Books
    https://buckscountybeacon.com/2024/05/uncovering-the-cover-up-how-republican-pennridge-school-board-directors-secretly-banned-books/ 


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    • 1 hr 7 min
    Ep 36 — Bad News For Ken Chesebro. And For Asbestos!

    Ep 36 — Bad News For Ken Chesebro. And For Asbestos!

    We update you on all of the states that have brought criminal charges against those involved in the “fake electors” plot to try and keep Donald Trump in the White House after he lost the 2020 election, including in particular the latest criminal complaint filed against Ken Chesbro in Wisconsin. In the B segment, we tell you how the Biden administration FINALLY banned asbestos. In 2024.
     
    Links:
    Chesebro “The Real Deadline for Settling a State’s Electoral Votes” memo
    https://app.box.com/s/ifis7hu74dz6xp0awkq567ygetrvcof1/file/1460145645094
    AZ fake electors indictment
    https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2024-05/PHX-%2312079639-v1-TRUE_BILL_-_INDICTMENT_93_SGJ_81.PDF
    GA indictment
    https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/08/CRIMINAL-INDICTMENT-Trump-Fulton-County-GA.pdf
    Georgia Court of Appeals, Stay of Roman v. State (AKA the Trump RICO case)
    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24735877/stayproceedings.pdf 
    WI indictment
    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24731470/24cf1293-24cf1294-24cf1295.pdf
    Corrosion Proof Fittings v. EPA
    https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/947/1201/153685/
    ACC Letter to EPA re asbestos use
    http://src.bna.com/iuL
    Ural Asbest’s Facebook page
    Trump insane asbestos tweet
    Link
    EPA’s final rule on asbestos, 40 CFR Part 751
    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2024-03-28/pdf/2024-05972.pdf
    EPA Factfinding pursuant to the TSCA
    https://www.epa.gov/assessing-and-managing-chemicals-under-tsca/risk-management-asbestos-part-1-chrysotile-asbestos
     
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    • 50 min
    Ep 35 — Judge Cannon Drops The Ball. Plus Your Trump Trial Questions Answered!

    Ep 35 — Judge Cannon Drops The Ball. Plus Your Trump Trial Questions Answered!

    We answer your follow-up questions on the Trump verdict in New York, remind you that Aileen Cannon continues to get worse and worse in the Trump documents case in FL, talk about Sam Alito’s fondness for flags, and give you an extra-long patreon bonus on Stan Woodward’s dedication to NOT his client.
    Links:
    Alito
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24698834-letter-from-justice-alito-to-senators-durbin-and-whitehouse
    Noreika denial of Hunter Biden MTD on invalidity of special counsel
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ded.82797/gov.uscourts.ded.82797.101.0.pdf
    18 U.S.C. 2
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2
    Nauta MTD February 28, 2024.
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.352.0.pdf
    Gov’t opp Nauta MTD March 7, 2024
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.378.0.pdf
    Trump and Nauta motion for extension of time March 11, 2024
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.386.0_3.pdf
    Nauta reply brief May 20, 2024
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.556.0.pdf
    Nauta Notice of Supplemental Authority
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.582.0.pdf
     
    United States v. Tobon-Builes, 706 F.2d 1092, 1101 (11th Cir. 1983)
    https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-tobon-builes
     
    Seattle Times on law excluding felons
    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/plot-twist-for-trump-wa-has-a-law-against-felons-running-for-office/
    RCW 29A.68.020
    https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=29A.68.020
    Trump v. Anderson
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-719_19m2.pdf
    Eisen NYT on sentencing
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/18/opinion/donald-trump-trial-prison.html
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    • 1 hr 6 min
    Ep 34 — GUILTY

    Ep 34 — GUILTY

    IT IS FINISHED. Today, the jury in New York unanimously agreed that Donald Trump committed 34 felonies, falsifying business records in the first degree, when he repaid Michael Cohen for secretly paying off Stormy Daniels to bury her story right before the 2016 election. What does it all mean and what comes next? Listen and find out!
    Links:
    NY Penal Law 175.10
    https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10/
    New York Penal Sec. 70
    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/70.00
    New York Penal Sec. 65
    https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-65-00/
    New York Penal Sec. 530.50
    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/CPL/530.50
    Jury Instructions
    https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People%20v.%20DJT%20Jury%20Instructions%20and%20Charges%20FINAL%205-23-24.pdf
    Georgia Code §42-8-60
    https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2022/title-42/chapter-8/article-3/section-42-8-60/


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    • 57 min

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