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Modelling the LGBTQ workplace for new insights and understanding DIAL

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In Episode 9 of Series 3 of the DIAL Podcast, Professor Andrew King and Matt Hall from DIAL's CILIA-LGBTQI+ research programme discuss their work exploring how Agent Based Modelling (ABM) can contribute to the study of LGBTQ lives, and conversely, how theory and insights from LGBTQ studies can inform the practice of ABM.
Further links Queer(y)ing Agent-Based Modelling: An example from LGBTQ workplace studies is a DIAL Working Paper Transcript
In Episode 9 of Series 3 of the DIAL Podcast, Professor Andrew King and Matt Hall from DIAL's CILIA-LGBTQI+ research programme discuss their work exploring how Agent Based Modelling (ABM) can contribute to the study of LGBTQ lives, and conversely, how theory and insights from LGBTQ studies can inform the practice of ABM. 
Queer(y)ing Agent-Based Modelling: An example from LGBTQ workplace studies is a DIAL Working Paper
Christine Garrington  0:00  
Welcome to DIAL a podcast where we tune into evidence on inequality over the life course. In series three of the podcast, we’re discuss emerging findings from DIAL research. For this episode, I'm joined by Professor Andrew King and research fellow Matt Hall from the University of Surrey, to discuss new research, exploring how Agent Based Modelling (ABM) can contribute to the study of LGBTQ lives, and conversely how theory and insights from LGBTQ studies can inform the practice of ABM. Before Matt walked us through what they did, I asked them both to explain the backdrop to the research. 
Andrew King  0:35  
When we were putting the project together in the first place, I'd become aware of the potential of Agent Based Modelling to explore ideas and theories and policies, especially on topics with populations where there were quite different data sets available which could be combined and synthesised. And in the case of LGBTQ people. There are quite a lot of smaller qualitative studies using interviews and focus groups and other qualitative data. And then there are some surveys with quantitative data. There are also areas where data is very limited and missing, particularly in relation to bisexual, trans and queer people. Hence, Agent Based Modelling really offered the CILIA project a new way of addressing these issues and trying something quite different, and quite novel, but there is much more to it than that, as Matt will go on to explain. 
Matt Hall  1:43  
Yeah we're also keen to address what's previously been termed methodological binarism within the field. So as Andy's just mentioned, there are numerous smaller qualitative studies and some larger quantitative data sets available, but there's very little conversation going on between the two of them. So each of these types of study tends to form its own stream, and then with its own limitations, and we identify this as a particular barrier for forwarding intersectional insights within policy domains and responding to how unique inequalities can emerge at the intersections of different social identities. So, where the quantitative research isn't engaging enough with intersectionality, or smaller sub populations within LGBTQ qualitative research is then limited in its ability to demonstrate the wider implications or significance of the details that it focuses on. So, it needs to be able to demonstrate the cumulative impact of those details like intersectional experiences. And although it's complete misreading of intersectionality theory, there's this tendency for conversations about intersexual inequality, particularly in public and policy spheres, is to treat inequalities as simply additive to where experiences of inequality of just the sum of those afforded by each of the persons identities.
Christine Garrington  3:10  
Yeah, that's really interesting now you propose something that you describe in the paper as a double querying approach which clearly has a bit of a double meaning but I wonder if you can just explain to us what exactly you mean there?
Matt

In Episode 9 of Series 3 of the DIAL Podcast, Professor Andrew King and Matt Hall from DIAL's CILIA-LGBTQI+ research programme discuss their work exploring how Agent Based Modelling (ABM) can contribute to the study of LGBTQ lives, and conversely, how theory and insights from LGBTQ studies can inform the practice of ABM.
Further links Queer(y)ing Agent-Based Modelling: An example from LGBTQ workplace studies is a DIAL Working Paper Transcript
In Episode 9 of Series 3 of the DIAL Podcast, Professor Andrew King and Matt Hall from DIAL's CILIA-LGBTQI+ research programme discuss their work exploring how Agent Based Modelling (ABM) can contribute to the study of LGBTQ lives, and conversely, how theory and insights from LGBTQ studies can inform the practice of ABM. 
Queer(y)ing Agent-Based Modelling: An example from LGBTQ workplace studies is a DIAL Working Paper
Christine Garrington  0:00  
Welcome to DIAL a podcast where we tune into evidence on inequality over the life course. In series three of the podcast, we’re discuss emerging findings from DIAL research. For this episode, I'm joined by Professor Andrew King and research fellow Matt Hall from the University of Surrey, to discuss new research, exploring how Agent Based Modelling (ABM) can contribute to the study of LGBTQ lives, and conversely how theory and insights from LGBTQ studies can inform the practice of ABM. Before Matt walked us through what they did, I asked them both to explain the backdrop to the research. 
Andrew King  0:35  
When we were putting the project together in the first place, I'd become aware of the potential of Agent Based Modelling to explore ideas and theories and policies, especially on topics with populations where there were quite different data sets available which could be combined and synthesised. And in the case of LGBTQ people. There are quite a lot of smaller qualitative studies using interviews and focus groups and other qualitative data. And then there are some surveys with quantitative data. There are also areas where data is very limited and missing, particularly in relation to bisexual, trans and queer people. Hence, Agent Based Modelling really offered the CILIA project a new way of addressing these issues and trying something quite different, and quite novel, but there is much more to it than that, as Matt will go on to explain. 
Matt Hall  1:43  
Yeah we're also keen to address what's previously been termed methodological binarism within the field. So as Andy's just mentioned, there are numerous smaller qualitative studies and some larger quantitative data sets available, but there's very little conversation going on between the two of them. So each of these types of study tends to form its own stream, and then with its own limitations, and we identify this as a particular barrier for forwarding intersectional insights within policy domains and responding to how unique inequalities can emerge at the intersections of different social identities. So, where the quantitative research isn't engaging enough with intersectionality, or smaller sub populations within LGBTQ qualitative research is then limited in its ability to demonstrate the wider implications or significance of the details that it focuses on. So, it needs to be able to demonstrate the cumulative impact of those details like intersectional experiences. And although it's complete misreading of intersectionality theory, there's this tendency for conversations about intersexual inequality, particularly in public and policy spheres, is to treat inequalities as simply additive to where experiences of inequality of just the sum of those afforded by each of the persons identities.
Christine Garrington  3:10  
Yeah, that's really interesting now you propose something that you describe in the paper as a double querying approach which clearly has a bit of a double meaning but I wonder if you can just explain to us what exactly you mean there?
Matt

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