Slaughterhouses, Undercover Footage & What the Meat Industry Has Been Hiding With Callum Weir & Gail Einitz

Gail Eisnitz has spent decades going where most people would never willingly go. As Chief Investigator for the Humane Farming Association and author of Slaughterhouse, she's built a career on documenting what happens behind the closed doors of the meat industry, and then making sure someone actually does something about it.We talk about all of it. What it's actually like inside a slaughterhouse. How you get into these situations, whether that's strategy or just turning up and hoping for the best. What undercover investigations looked like before smartphones existed and social media could do half the work for you. The personal toll of spending years immersed in something that most people can't even bring themselves to read about. And the thing she mentioned early on about seeing the world differently, made up of dots, which sounds abstract until she explains it and then it makes complete sense.This is one of those conversations that's genuinely hard to walk away from unchanged. You've been warned.

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