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What types of organisation, institution and industries are performing work that tests human resilience and evokes powerful feelings of shame, sadness, fear and disgust? Does working with people who commit serious crimes like rape and murder affect the staff who work with them? How do you overcome adversity and protect yourself from burnout or compassion fatigue?


Naomi Murphy and David Jones have decades of experience of working in prisons and other forensic settings. They host experts across a range of disciplines to discover what are some of the challenges that make a difference in fostering resilience and creativity in those who live and work in challenging organisations

The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments Podcasters David Jones & Dr Naomi Murphy

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    • 3.8 • 12 Ratings

What types of organisation, institution and industries are performing work that tests human resilience and evokes powerful feelings of shame, sadness, fear and disgust? Does working with people who commit serious crimes like rape and murder affect the staff who work with them? How do you overcome adversity and protect yourself from burnout or compassion fatigue?


Naomi Murphy and David Jones have decades of experience of working in prisons and other forensic settings. They host experts across a range of disciplines to discover what are some of the challenges that make a difference in fostering resilience and creativity in those who live and work in challenging organisations

    Nick Duffell, Nick Duffell, The boarding school system and its traumatic effects

    Nick Duffell, Nick Duffell, The boarding school system and its traumatic effects

    Nick Duffell has had a very varied career, which has include working as a teacher, a carpenter, a divorce mediator, a psychotherapist, and a psycho historian. He is the author of The Making of Them. Nick  book about boarding school was groundbreaking when it was first published and provoked a backlash. Whilst we featured several previous conversations about boarding school, we thought, when reading his book, that it might have been well have been subtitled, A History of How the British Disliked Their Children.
    Nick is the author of a number of books, several relevant to our topic.
    Trauma, Abandonment and Privilege: A guide to therapeutic work with boarding school survivors
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trauma-Abandonment-Privilege-Nick-Duffell/dp/1138788716/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Jjql9XE6-nGXpxja6GmdvnbYRY1tkuTGFBC3Vm_sbmM0pscihCOPLN5bulgJdr6mEIJftd5ZQYjVnxbSkJyTNw6bY1-b8dA4nGTnkhT20M6wlVEgY7jRUAx4bcmBYQ0p.RwbrV-VOw6gjHrOLUM5LluC8zJcWZxaoAc7pYHTbs40&dib_tag=se&qid=1710784370&refinements=p_27%3ANick+Duffell&s=books&sr=1-1
    Summary
     
    Nick Duffel discusses the origins and impact of boarding schools in Britain. He explains that the British tradition of sending children to boarding schools dates back to the Middle Ages and was formalized in the 19th century to produce leaders for the British Empire. The boarding school system has become central to British culture, with many aspiring families sending their children to these schools. However, there has been a lack of reflection on the psychological impact of boarding schools, and the psychotherapy profession has been slow to address this issue. The boarding school culture has influenced British society, creating a top-down mentality and an entitlement complex among leaders. This has led to a lack of focus on children's needs and a contemptuous attitude towards younger people. This conversation explores the impact of boarding schools on individuals' emotional intelligence, decision-making, attitudes towards women and migrants, and intimate relationships. It delves into the militaristic and hyper-masculine nature of boarding schools and the purposeful disconnection from femininity. The conversation also examines the influence of boarding schools on attitudes towards intellectualism and the performative nature of intellectualism. It distinguishes between rebels and compliers among boarding school survivors and highlights the challenges of working with ex-boarders in therapy. The conversation concludes with insights on personal well-being and self-care.
     
    Takeaways
     
    The British tradition of sending children to boarding schools dates back to the Middle Ages and was formalized in the 19th century to produce leaders for the British Empire.
    There has been a lack of reflection on the psychological impact of boarding schools, and the psychotherapy profession has been slow to address this issue.
    The boarding school culture has influenced British society, creating a top-down mentality and an entitlement complex among leaders.
    This has led to a lack of focus on children's needs and a contemptuous attitude towards younger people.
    Boarding schools can disconnect individuals from vulnerability and emotional intelligence, leading to challenges in connecting with others and making good decisions.
    The militaristic and hyper-masculine nature of boarding schools can perpetuate antipathy towards women and migrants.
    Boarding school survivors may struggle with intimate relationships and find it difficult to enter into a 'we' dynamic due to their training in dissociation.
    Attitudes towards intellectualism in boarding schools can vary, with some schools fostering anti-intellectualism and a focus on performative qualities.
    Working with ex-boarders in therapy requires specialized training and an understanding of the unique challenges they face.
     
    Chapters
    00:00Introduction and Background
    03:38The Origins of Boarding Schools in Britain
    04:07The Psychological Impact of Boarding Sc

    • 1 hr
    • video
    Nick Duffell, The boarding school system and its traumatic effects. Video

    Nick Duffell, The boarding school system and its traumatic effects. Video

    Nick Duffell has had a very varied career, which has include working as a teacher, a carpenter, a divorce mediator, a psychotherapist, and a psycho historian. He is the author of The Making of Them. Nick  book about boarding school was groundbreaking when it was first published and provoked a backlash. Whilst we featured several previous conversations about boarding school, we thought, when reading his book, that it might have been well have been subtitled, A History of How the British Disliked Their Children.
    Nick is the author of a number of books, several relevant to our topic.
    Trauma, Abandonment and Privilege: A guide to therapeutic work with boarding school survivors
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trauma-Abandonment-Privilege-Nick-Duffell/dp/1138788716/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Jjql9XE6-nGXpxja6GmdvnbYRY1tkuTGFBC3Vm_sbmM0pscihCOPLN5bulgJdr6mEIJftd5ZQYjVnxbSkJyTNw6bY1-b8dA4nGTnkhT20M6wlVEgY7jRUAx4bcmBYQ0p.RwbrV-VOw6gjHrOLUM5LluC8zJcWZxaoAc7pYHTbs40&dib_tag=se&qid=1710784370&refinements=p_27%3ANick+Duffell&s=books&sr=1-1
    Summary
     
    Nick Duffel discusses the origins and impact of boarding schools in Britain. He explains that the British tradition of sending children to boarding schools dates back to the Middle Ages and was formalized in the 19th century to produce leaders for the British Empire. The boarding school system has become central to British culture, with many aspiring families sending their children to these schools. However, there has been a lack of reflection on the psychological impact of boarding schools, and the psychotherapy profession has been slow to address this issue. The boarding school culture has influenced British society, creating a top-down mentality and an entitlement complex among leaders. This has led to a lack of focus on children's needs and a contemptuous attitude towards younger people. This conversation explores the impact of boarding schools on individuals' emotional intelligence, decision-making, attitudes towards women and migrants, and intimate relationships. It delves into the militaristic and hyper-masculine nature of boarding schools and the purposeful disconnection from femininity. The conversation also examines the influence of boarding schools on attitudes towards intellectualism and the performative nature of intellectualism. It distinguishes between rebels and compliers among boarding school survivors and highlights the challenges of working with ex-boarders in therapy. The conversation concludes with insights on personal well-being and self-care.
     
    Takeaways
     
    The British tradition of sending children to boarding schools dates back to the Middle Ages and was formalized in the 19th century to produce leaders for the British Empire.
    There has been a lack of reflection on the psychological impact of boarding schools, and the psychotherapy profession has been slow to address this issue.
    The boarding school culture has influenced British society, creating a top-down mentality and an entitlement complex among leaders.
    This has led to a lack of focus on children's needs and a contemptuous attitude towards younger people.
    Boarding schools can disconnect individuals from vulnerability and emotional intelligence, leading to challenges in connecting with others and making good decisions.
    The militaristic and hyper-masculine nature of boarding schools can perpetuate antipathy towards women and migrants.
    Boarding school survivors may struggle with intimate relationships and find it difficult to enter into a 'we' dynamic due to their training in dissociation.
    Attitudes towards intellectualism in boarding schools can vary, with some schools fostering anti-intellectualism and a focus on performative qualities.
    Working with ex-boarders in therapy requires specialized training and an understanding of the unique challenges they face.
     
    Chapters
    00:00Introduction and Background
    03:38The Origins of Boarding Schools in Britain
    04:07The Psychological Impact of Boarding Sc

    • 1 hr
    Sharla Smith. (Audio) From Actress to Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion Consultant: Navigating Barriers in the Acting World

    Sharla Smith. (Audio) From Actress to Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion Consultant: Navigating Barriers in the Acting World

    In this powerful conversation, Sharla Smith, an equality, diversity, and inclusion consultant, and actor, discusses her work as a facilitator of sessions on unconscious bias, inclusive leadership, and anti-racism. She talks about the importance of creating a safe and respectful space for honest conversations and encourages participants to actively engage in the sessions to get the most out of them. Sharla also describes how her background in acting helps her liven up the sessions and make them more engaging. She shares her own experiences of facing discrimination and the importance of therapy and communication in processing and addressing such issues. Sharla primarily works with organizations in the public sector, conducting training sessions and courses on diversity and inclusion. She emphasizes the need to make the sessions interesting and interactive, incorporating exercises, games, and discussions. Overall, Sharla's goal is to create meaningful conversations and promote understanding and inclusivity.
    Takeaways
    The acting industry has significant barriers and challenges, including racism and limited opportunities for diverse actors.
    The media often distorts historical visibility and reinforces rigid expectations of actors and characters.
    Rejection in the acting industry can have a negative impact on mental health and integrity.
    Transitioning to diversity, equality, and inclusion work can provide a sense of purpose and impact.
    Engaging training sessions in diversity and inclusion require interactive exercises and open discussions.

    • 40 min
    • video
    Sharla Smith. From Actress to Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion Consultant: Navigating Barriers in the Acting World

    Sharla Smith. From Actress to Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion Consultant: Navigating Barriers in the Acting World

    In this powerful conversation, Sharla Smith, an equality, diversity, and inclusion consultant, and actor, discusses her work as a facilitator of sessions on unconscious bias, inclusive leadership, and anti-racism. She talks about the importance of creating a safe and respectful space for honest conversations and encourages participants to actively engage in the sessions to get the most out of them. Sharla also describes how her background in acting helps her liven up the sessions and make them more engaging. She shares her own experiences of facing discrimination and the importance of therapy and communication in processing and addressing such issues. Sharla primarily works with organizations in the public sector, conducting training sessions and courses on diversity and inclusion. She emphasizes the need to make the sessions interesting and interactive, incorporating exercises, games, and discussions. Overall, Sharla's goal is to create meaningful conversations and promote understanding and inclusivity.
    Takeaways
    The acting industry has significant barriers and challenges, including racism and limited opportunities for diverse actors.
    The media often distorts historical visibility and reinforces rigid expectations of actors and characters.
    Rejection in the acting industry can have a negative impact on mental health and integrity.
    Transitioning to diversity, equality, and inclusion work can provide a sense of purpose and impact.
    Engaging training sessions in diversity and inclusion require interactive exercises and open discussions.

    • 40 min
    • video
    Sybil Taunton on the value of diverse organisations and her experiences in the US military. Video

    Sybil Taunton on the value of diverse organisations and her experiences in the US military. Video

    Sybil Taunton, is the Head of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion for the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS). She is an advocate for equality, diversity, and inclusion. Today she shares her pxperiences and insights on topics such as the impact of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy in the Uersonal eS military, the emotional toll of keeping secrets, the continuous war in America, and the lack of diversity in leadership. She also discusses her work with the Modern Military Association of America and the challenges faced by gay prison officers. Throughout the conversation, Sybil emphasizes the importance of representation, empathy, and inclusive leadership in creating a more equitable society. In this conversation, Sybil Taunton discusses the importance of setting boundaries and recognizing personal comfort levels when discussing sensitive topics such as sexual orientation, neurodivergence, and mental health. She emphasizes the need for EDI practitioners to understand their own boundaries while still being relatable and supportive to others. Additionally, Sybil shares advice on maintaining emotional safety and nourishment, including the importance of prioritization and managing expectations to avoid burnout.
    Takeaways
    The Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy had a significant emotional impact on LGBTQ+ service members, causing fear, anxiety, and a lack of psychological safety.
    Continuous war in America has shaped the country's culture and has had a significant impact on the working class, diverting resources away from domestic issues.
    Diversity in leadership is crucial for creating inclusive and innovative organizations, as it brings a variety of perspectives and experiences to the table.
    The emotional challenges of being a visible minority, such as a gay prison officer, can include fear, lack of privacy, and the need to navigate stereotypes and assumptions.
    Representation and visibility are essential for marginalized groups, as they provide role models and create a sense of belonging and opportunity. Setting boundaries is crucial when discussing personal and sensitive topics.
    Recognizing personal comfort levels and boundaries helps maintain emotional safety.
    Prioritization and managing expectations are key to avoiding burnout.
    EDI practitioners should strive to be relatable and supportive while still protecting their ownwellbeing.

    • 50 min
    Sybil Taunton on the value of diverse organisations and her experiences in the US military Audio.

    Sybil Taunton on the value of diverse organisations and her experiences in the US military Audio.

    Sybil Taunton, is the Head of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion for the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS). She is an advocate for equality, diversity, and inclusion. Today she shares her pxperiences and insights on topics such as the impact of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy in the Uersonal eS military, the emotional toll of keeping secrets, the continuous war in America, and the lack of diversity in leadership. She also discusses her work with the Modern Military Association of America and the challenges faced by gay prison officers. Throughout the conversation, Sybil emphasizes the importance of representation, empathy, and inclusive leadership in creating a more equitable society. In this conversation, Sybil Taunton discusses the importance of setting boundaries and recognizing personal comfort levels when discussing sensitive topics such as sexual orientation, neurodivergence, and mental health. She emphasizes the need for EDI practitioners to understand their own boundaries while still being relatable and supportive to others. Additionally, Sybil shares advice on maintaining emotional safety and nourishment, including the importance of prioritization and managing expectations to avoid burnout.
    Takeaways
    The Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy had a significant emotional impact on LGBTQ+ service members, causing fear, anxiety, and a lack of psychological safety.
    Continuous war in America has shaped the country's culture and has had a significant impact on the working class, diverting resources away from domestic issues.
    Diversity in leadership is crucial for creating inclusive and innovative organizations, as it brings a variety of perspectives and experiences to the table.
    The emotional challenges of being a visible minority, such as a gay prison officer, can include fear, lack of privacy, and the need to navigate stereotypes and assumptions.
    Representation and visibility are essential for marginalized groups, as they provide role models and create a sense of belonging and opportunity. Setting boundaries is crucial when discussing personal and sensitive topics.
    Recognizing personal comfort levels and boundaries helps maintain emotional safety.
    Prioritization and managing expectations are key to avoiding burnout.
    EDI practitioners should strive to be relatable and supportive while still protecting their ownwellbeing.

    • 50 min

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Not sure I agree with the way your reflecting your version of facts but why would you your angry and wrapped up in victim blaming The children do not come last The court system is tough But there is a percentage of men who do suffer and are indeed good enough as father BUT their are abusive fathers so don’t ignore the actual damage that takes place Your anger is noted in this podcasts but maybe you need to explore deeper in therapy Owning your shaming accepting your role and committing to change requires in depth work Have you truly worked this through ? You set up practice on theme that is about you and your scars are you ready to move on? Or are you reenacting your matter I get your a psychotherapist’s BUT the wounds are far from healed

amymcculloch ,

One of my favourite podcasts!

Really interesting and varied conversations- thank you!

Tomz2012 ,

Tedious, solipsistic and incoherent

Adman and Scanlon are unable to answer a question and incapable of completing a sentence without two or three ‘ummms’.

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