59 episodes

A podcast for neurodivergent women, hosted by clinical psychologist Monique Mitchelson and clinical neuropsychologist Michelle Livock. Covering Autism to ADHD and everything in between, we aim to educate and inspire women who think differently.

The Neurodivergent Woman DM Podcasts

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.9 • 33 Ratings

A podcast for neurodivergent women, hosted by clinical psychologist Monique Mitchelson and clinical neuropsychologist Michelle Livock. Covering Autism to ADHD and everything in between, we aim to educate and inspire women who think differently.

    Minority Stress with Rebecca Gannon

    Minority Stress with Rebecca Gannon

    Today on the show Monique interviews Rebecca Gannon. Rebecca is a Neurodivergent Psychologist with a Masters in Educational and Developmental Psychology. Their clinical work focuses on Autism and ADHD assessment for adults as well as supervising other Psychologists and allied health professionals in neuroaffirming practice skills. Rebecca is Aboriginal, a parent, a partner, and their long-standing special interest just happens to be Autism.

     

    On this episode Monique and Rebecca cover:


    Rebecca’s experience of her own neurodivergence, including the pivotal role of community as part of a healthy self-identity + the importance of understanding all aspects of your neurodivergent identity.
    The importance of advocacy based on lived experience and community consultation when providing support services to people with a minority identity.
    The Minority Stress Model.
    Rebecca’s experience of having both Aboriginal and neurodivergent minority identities.
    Ways to psychological safety for minority group members in health care settings.
    Rebecca’s experience navigating the health care system as an ND parent of a child with complex health needs.
    Heavy Metal Music (it’s relevant, we promise!).

     

     

    Things we mentioned:


    Literature on ABA 
    The Australian Indigenous Psychology Association.  
    Another Day in the Colony – book by Chelsea Watego
    Find out more about Dr Tracey Westerman here. 

     

    You can contact Rebecca through her website, Kaleidoscope Assessment or on Instagram @kaleidoscopeassessment.
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    • 1 hr
    Depression and TMS with Michelle Marques

    Depression and TMS with Michelle Marques

    In this week’s episode we are thrilled to chat to Michelle Marques about her experience with depression and Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation, plus a million other things. Michelle is an Autistic and ADHD writer with a background in journalism and a Master’s in African American studies. Her writing and research focuses on gender, sexuality, race, neurodiversity, and pop culture. 

     

    We chat about:

     


    Michelle’s experience of learning about her neurodivergence and the hidden cost of ADHD for high achievers.
    Codeswitching, the privilege of authenticity, and intersecting identities as an Autistic person and as a cultural minority.
    Michelle’s experience of depression and how she differentiates between depression and burnout as a neurodivergent person.
    Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation.
    Things Michelle has found helpful for managing her mental health.

     

    You can find Michelle’s writing on her Substack “Neurodivergent Black Girl” and you can follow her on Instagram @michellemar.ques. 

     

    Update! An American psychologist has reached out and let us know that TMS can be covered by Medicare in some cases in the USA. Here's some more information on that. 

     

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    • 1 hr 19 min
    Early Identification with Josephine Barbaro

    Early Identification with Josephine Barbaro

    This week on the podcast Monique interviews the incredible Associate Professor Josephine Barbaro. Josie is a late identified Autistic ADHDer. She is a Principal Research Fellow and Psychologist at the Olga Tennison Autism Research Centre, La Trobe University, Melbourne. She is the Research Director of Identification and Diagnosis of Autism, and Clinical Director of the Victorian Early Assessment Clinic, providing neuro-affirming, transdisciplinary assessments for neurodivergence in children under 3 years. Josie’s research interests are in the early identification and diagnosis of Autism, family health and well-being following a diagnosis, and Neurodiversity Affirming research and practice.

     

    In this episode Monique and Josie cover:

     


    Josie’s path to understanding her own neurodivergence.
    The heritability of neurodivergence and the importance of taking a whole-family approach to supporting neurodivergent kids.
    Josie’s work on early identification of Autism and the development of the SACS early identification screening tool and the ASDectect app.
    Josie’s research and work into closing the gender gap in early diagnosis of Autism.
    Why early identification is so important and addressing concerns parents can have around ‘labelling’.
    How to share a diagnosis of Autism with your child.
    Debunking the myths around overdiagnosis of Autism.

     

    Things we mentioned:

     


    The Victorian Early Assessment Clinic.
    The SACS early identification screening tool training
    The ASDectect app
    Conversation article co-written by Josie and Marie Camin on talking to your child about their diagnosis. 
    Conversation article co-written by Josie and Dr Nancy Sadka debunking the myth around overdiagnosis of Autism. 
    Books to use as a conversation starter to introduce neurodivergence to a child include The Brain Forest and The Rainbow Brain, both by Sandyha Menon, and Round World Square Me by Chelsea Luker. 

     

    You can contact Josie via email at veac@latrobe.edu.au or find her on her socials here.

     

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    • 1 hr 5 min
    Sensory Regulation with Joanne Seymon

    Sensory Regulation with Joanne Seymon

    A note to our listeners: In this episode we chat about self-harm. Some of our listeners may prefer to skip this one.

     

    Happy Monday! In today’s episode Monique interviews Joanne Seymon; AuDHDer Occupational Therapist, and co-founder of Kaiko Fidgets. Jo is passionate about developing appropriate sensory tools for teens and adults, with a focus on harm minimisation and emotional regulation. She uses both her lived experience and her background in occupational therapy to match sensory needs to the right sensory support. In this episode Jo shares some personal details about her son Kai’s mental health journey, and Kai has given his consent for these details to be shared.

     

    In this episode Monique and Jo cover:

     


    How Kaiko Fidgets came to be and Jo’s path to diagnosis and understanding her own neurodivergence.
    What actually is ‘Occupational Therapy’ (OT) and how can OTs work with neurodivergent folk?
    Different sensory needs and ideas around supporting sensory regulation.
    When pain is used as a regulator – Jo’s approach to this and some options for harm minimisation.
    Understanding and managing the cumulative effect of sensory load.

     

     

    Find Jo on her website (www.kaikofidgets.com), through her socials (@kaikofidgets), or reach out to her via email (jo@kaikofigets.com)  

     

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    • 1 hr 5 min
    Stimming with Marie Camin

    Stimming with Marie Camin

    On this week’s episode Monique interviews Marie Camin about stimming. Marie is a multiply neurodivergent clinical psychologist, researcher, and a neurodiversity advocate. Marie is currently completing her PhD on Autistic stimming at La Trobe University and she is a Founding Committee Member of the OTARC Autistic Advisory Group; she believes strongly in contributing to a more accurate and affirming understanding of Autistic experiences through co-production with the community. She loves animals, pop culture, and anything creative.

     

    This episode is jam packed with goodies! Monique and Marie cover:

     


    Community as a key part of the neurodivergent identity.
    Marie’s experience as a neurodivergent clinical psychologist and her path to discovering her own neurodivergence.
    A side quest on special interests.
    Everything stimming – what is it, how is it understood (both from a community perspective and based on the DSM), and many examples of what stimming can look like.
    The evolution of thinking in the psychological field around the purpose of stimming and responses to stimming.
    Harm minimisation approaches for stimming that is harmful to self or others (please be aware that self-harm is mentioned here, and so some listeners may decide to skip this).
    Marie’s advice for other neurodivergent folks trying to function in a neuro-normative way.

     

     

    Want to learn more about Marie or get in touch with her? You can find her through her website here, or on Instagram @mariecamin.

     

    Check out her digital downloads and ND Pride stickers here!

     

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    • 1 hr 21 min
    Pelvic and Sexual Pain with Shan Morrison

    Pelvic and Sexual Pain with Shan Morrison

    This week on the podcast we interview ADHDer and physiotherapist Shan Morrison. Shan is a Specialist Women’s, Men’s & Pelvic Health Physiotherapist and fellow of the Australian College of Physiotherapists. She has practiced exclusively in pelvic health for 30 years, and is the director of Women’s & Men’s Health Physiotherapy: a private practice based in Melbourne that exists to restore pelvic health and empower every person to live their best life. Shan’s clinical passion is being part of a like-minded multi-disciplinary team that takes a whole person approach to supporting those experiencing persistent pelvic and sexual pain.

     

    In this episode we cover:

     


    Shan’s experience of neurodivergence, particularly as an ND physiotherapist, and her path to discovering her own neurodivergence.
    The role of a Pelvic Health Physiotherapist in general, and we learn all about Shan’s specialty of pelvic pain, including the causes of persistent pelvic pain, some common pelvic pain conditions, and factors that contribute to persistent pelvic pain.
    Shan’s approach to treating persistent pelvic pain wholistically – what does this involve and how does she do this in her practice.
    The overlap of neurodivergence and persistent pain conditions.
    Why is it so important to screen for multiple aspects of an individual’s mental and physical health as a health professional, regardless of your specific speciality.
    What to do if you are experiencing persistent pelvic pain.

     

     

    You can connect with Shan via her practice website – www.wmhp.com.au –  or by email: shan@wmhp.com.au  

     

    Shan recommends the following resources:

     


    This simple pain education website (general not pelvic pain).
    The book ‘Healing Pelvic Pain’ by Dr Peta Wright and Dr Wright’s website which has a number of resources. 

     

     

    Things we mentioned:

     


    Michelle’s on-demand webinar that Shan mentioned, for allied health professionals on Identifying Neurodivergence, can be accessed directly here or through our website. 
    You can access the study Shan mentioned on psychoeducational needs around persistent pelvic pain in women here.
    The qualitative study on heterosexual sexual satisfaction that Michelle mentioned is in ‘Girls & Sex’ by Peggy Orenstein

     

     

    Want polished copies of our episodes in beautiful and readable pdf article format? Grab them here. 

     

    Enjoyed the episode and want to support us further? Join our Patreon community! Patreon subscribers receive basic episode transcripts from Season 4 onwards, access to a monthly live zoom hang out, 50% off our episode articles, plus bonus monthly content (depending on subscription tier). Check out our Patreon page to support us, as we aim to make quality mental health care information accessible to everyone: www.patreon.com/ndwomanpod.

     

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    • 1 hr 22 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
33 Ratings

33 Ratings

carebes ,

life changing

I love it! They’re talking about so many relatable personal issues which I rarely see mentioned anywhere else, or (now I’m realising) which I never remembered to look up or I didn’t know how to express and describe! And it’s so reassuring to hear I’m not the only one struggling with those issues, eg with friendships! I felt very seen listening to this. Thank you

enalyppop ,

Thank you for this podcast!

I am a woman who was diagnosed with autism last year and am seeking ADHD diagnosis too and this podcast is so key in me coming to terms with my diagnosis and understanding what it means for me. I really love how the presenters challenge the deficit based societal view of neurodiversity and that helps me to shake the internalised ableism and improves my self confidence. Thank you thank you thank you!!

Teegan Star ,

One of a kind

So refreshing to hear a female neurodiverse clinical psychologist talk about neurodiversity. Great dynamic between the two presenters, excellent content.

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