White Fragility and Conversations About Race with Oenone Forbat MK on the Mic

This is Season 4 Episode 5 of MK on the Mic, a podcast dedicated to having conversations relevant to POC communities. Oenone Forbat joined me (Meera Kumar) for a chat about white fragility and how to have conversations about race. Oenone is a comedian, influencer, and fellow podcaster.

Find time-stamped topics below:
0:30 When Oenone started engaging in conversations about race

2:48 What are the barriers to conversations about race for white people?
7:40 Talking about race with friends and discomfort

13:41 Describing people using their race

18:17 Fear of being called racist

21:20 The effects of white fragility
22:40 Internalising messages of white superiority
26:30 Companies and anti-racism
28:55 White supremacy and talking about whiteness
33:00 Speaking to family and friends about racism
35:40 How racism benefits all white people
39:25 When we first became aware of race
42:18 Putting anti-racism education into action


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Meera's socials:


IG: www.instagram.com/meerakumar
 Twitter: www.twitter.com/meeerakumar
Podcast:

Insta: www.instagram.com/mkonthemic
 Twitter: www.twitter.com/emkayonthemic

Oenone’s socials:

IG: https://www.instagram.com/oenone
Twitter: https://twitter.com/oenoneforbat
Podcast: https://oenone.co/podcast