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The Julia La Roche Show Julia La Roche
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Julia La Roche brings her listeners in-depth conversations with some of the top CEOs, investors, founders, academics, and rising stars in business. Guests on "The Julia La Roche Show" have included Bill Ackman, Ray Dalio, Marc Benioff, Kyle Bass, Hugh Hendry, Nassim Taleb, Nouriel Roubini, David Friedberg, Anthony Scaramucci, Scott Galloway, Brent Johnson, Jim Rickards, Danielle DiMartino Booth, Carol Roth, Neil Howe, Jim Rogers, Jim Bianco, Josh Brown, and many more. Julia always makes the show about the guest, never the host. She speaks less and listens more. She always does her homework.
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#177 Mike Green: Passive Investing Has Turned The Market On Autopilot
Michael Green, Chief Strategist and Portfolio Manager for Simplify Asset Management, joins Julia La Roche on episode 178 for a wide-ranging conversation on the economy and market.
In this episode, Mike Green discusses some of the implications of systematic and passive investment strategies and how they've led to the current market conditions.
Michael has been noted for his work as a market theoretician and financial media participant. He is a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania and a CFA holder.
Links:
Follow Mike on Twitter/x: https://twitter.com/profplum99
Read Mike’s Substack: https://www.yesigiveafig.com/
Visit Simplify: https://www.simplify.us/
0:00 Intro and welcome Mike Green
0:56 Macro picture
2:27 Markets
4:30 The Boomers always win
8:38 Assessment of the health of the economy
12:00 Reduction in hours, increase in part-time work
12:55 Impact of passive investing
20:40 Largest stocks most affected by passive flows
23:00 Everyone has become automated
25:17 How does this end? An accelerated reversal of the gains?
28:49 Perception of retirement wealth
31:00 Ponzi funds
35:30 Social security
37:00 Markets divorced from fundamentals
41:09 The Fed -
#176 Economist Jonathan Treussard On The Extraordinarily Confusing Macro Data, Markets With A Memory Of A Goldfish, And If We're In Bubble Territory
Economist and investor Jonathan Treussard, founder of Treussard Capital Management, a Registered Investment Advisor, joins Julia La Roche on episode 176 to discuss the current state of the economy and markets.
Link:
https://www.treussard.com/julia
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro and welcome Jonathan Treussard
00:52 Macro view, confusing data, too much volatility
04:11 Wealth inequality
05:33 AI
06:33 Is the economy healthy?
07:55 Money illusion
10:07 Bubbles and assessing market valuations
14:36 Geopolitics
17:50 Middle class
19:50 From musician to economist
27:15 Changing perception of America
30:34 Market risks: Nvidia, CRE, Private Equity, and Private Credit
36:00 Banking system
38:33 Concerns about CRE and private credit
41:37 Making decisions under uncertainty
45:12 Parting thoughts -
#175 Chris Whalen: 'We're Hiding A Lot' — Why Commercial Could Be The Next Source Of The Financial Crisis In This Country
Investment banker and author Chris Whalen, chairman of Whalen Global Advisors, who is also the author of The Institutional Risk Analyst, returns to The Julia La Roche Show for episode 175 to discuss the economy, the risk in commercial real estate, the upcoming presidential election, and the status of the American dream.
Links:
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen
Website: https://www.rcwhalen.com/
The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/
Stanley Middleman book: https://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Around-Corners-Achieving-Business/dp/B0D5PTSJVC/
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro and welcome Chris Whalen
1:55 Macro view today, an indication that the tide is going back out
4:40 Residential housing will be the last headwind
5:50 Health of the economy? ‘We’re hiding a lot’
7:10 Commercial could be the source of the next financial crisis
11:50 Presidential election
14:00 What a Trump victory would mean
16:00 Our debt and deficit — We’re headed toward a crisis
18:40 The Fed
21:40 Fed’s focus on language and turning markets into a Kindergarten exercise
23:30 We’ve turned the Fed into a corporate earnings exercise
26:00 Inflation
28:31 The American Dream
31:00 Parting thoughts -
#174 James Lavish On The Debt Spiral: They’re Going To Print So Much Money It’s Going To Shock You
"Reformed" hedge fund manager James Lavish, the author of The Informationist newsletter and founder/managing partner of The Bitcoin Opportunity Fund, joins Julia La Roche on episode 174 for a wide-ranging discussion on macro, the pockets of recession especially in the private sector, and a deep dive into the debt problem in the U.S.
Links:
Twitter/X: https://x.com/jameslavish
The Informationist: https://jameslavish.substack.com/
The Bitcoin Opportunity Fund: https://www.bitcoinopportunity.fund/
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro and welcome James Lavish
1:00 Macro view
2:30 Pockets of recession, fiscal dominance, inflation
5:08 Highly manipulated numbers, CPI
10:30 Deficit spending and the economy
12:40 Debt spiral and why the U.S. is a ‘zombie’
17:20 They’re going to print so much money it’s going to shock people
19:50 U.S. Treasuries
28:15 Stagflation
30:00 Dallas Fed survey: recession red flag?
35:00 The government will continue to recklessly spend
37:03 FOMC and jobs
40:50 Parting thoughts, asset allocation -
#173 Dave Collum On Why We’re Headed For A 40-Year Bear Market
Dave Collum, Professor of organic chemistry at Cornell University and Zero Hedge Contributor, joins The Julia La Roche to share his views on the economy and markets. In this episode, Professor Collum makes a case that the market today looks “more insane than the dot-com bubble” and why we could be headed for a 40-year bear market.
Links:
Twitter/X: https://x.com/DavidBCollum
Year-end review: https://peakprosperity.com/dave-collums-2023-year-in-review-down-some-dark-rabbit-holes/
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro and welcome Dave Collum
1:18 Lessons in chemistry
7:00 Investing — bonds, equities, gold
9:10 Gold
14:47 Elizabeth Warren
17:15 Financial crisis
20:13 Case for a 40-year bear market
21:30 Macro view — about to start a serious downturn and we’ve had no pain
29:30 Demographics
30:58 Tailwinds
33:20 BRICs
36:40 Election
42:02 How do you prepare for this macro environment + bear market thesis + end of American experiment
45:00 Prepper
47:19 Bitcoin
49:08 Performance this year — ‘an old man’s portfolio’
51:23 Not your typical Ivy League professor + campus culture today as someone who is “Trump tolerant” + cancel culture
1:04:37 Optimism
1:11:58 Closing -
#172 John Cochrane On The Fiscal Theory Of The Price Level, Causes Of Inflation, And The Need To Stop Throwing Money Down Trillion-dollar Rat Holes
John Cochrane, the Rose-Marie and Jack Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and former professor of finance at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business and, before that, the Department of Economics, joins Julia on episode 172. Professor Cochrane is the author of The Fiscal Theory of the Price Level book, and he writes the Grumpy Economist blog. and In this episode, Professor Cochrane discusses the current state of the US economy, the fiscal theory of the price level, the causes and challenges of inflation, and the concerning levels of government debt. He emphasizes the need for supply-side efficiency and fiscal discipline to sustain economic growth and control inflation. Cochrane also highlights the limitations of the Federal Reserve's interest rate policy and the importance of responsible fiscal policy in addressing the fiscal picture. He suggests reforming the tax code, social programs and reducing middle-class subsidies are necessary to ensure long-term sustainability.
Cochrane concludes by emphasizing the need to pay attention to incentives and the interconnectedness of various policies. He also mentions the potential of AI and biotech to drive future growth and warns against stifling innovation.
Takeaways:
The US economy is currently experiencing low unemployment and a bout of inflation caused by government stimulus.
The fiscal theory of the price level explains that money, government debt, and inflation are interconnected, and the quantity of money and government bonds both impact inflation.
The Federal Reserve's interest rate policy has limitations in controlling inflation, and fiscal policy plays a crucial role in addressing inflation and government debt.
To fix the fiscal picture, it is necessary to reform the tax code, social programs, and reduce middle-class subsidies to ensure long-term sustainability.
Responsible fiscal policy, economic growth, and steady primary surpluses are essential to control inflation and maintain a stable economy. The US economy may be more fragile than it appears, with concerns about the ability to pay back debts and the difficulty of selling longer-term debt.
Forecasting inflation is challenging, and the Federal Reserve and other forecasters have often missed the mark. The mechanics of inflation are similar to the stock market, and there are risks of higher inflation in certain scenarios.
Fiscal dominance refers to the constraint on monetary policy caused by fiscal policy. The ability to control inflation through fiscal policy may be more challenging now.
The Federal Reserve was slow to act on inflation and needs to consider a wider range of scenarios and incentives in its decision-making process.
The biggest economic story in our lifetimes is long-term growth and the importance of embracing new technologies and innovation. Incentives play a crucial role in solving economic problems and driving growth.
Social programs and the tax code need to be examined together to understand the full impact on incentives and redistribution.
The interconnectedness of policies and the need to consider the whole system when addressing economic challenges.
Links:
Twitter/X: https://x.com/JohnHCochrane
Website: https://www.johnhcochrane.com/
Substack: https://substack.com/@grumpyeconomist
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Fiscal-Theory-Price-Level/dp/0691242240
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro and welcome John Cochrane
01:30 Macro picture and understanding inflation
04:00 We’re a supply-limited economy, more money and stimulus thrown down ratholes won’t make the economy grow
05:30 The Fiscal Theory of the Price Level
11:35 Limitations of the Federal Reserve's interest rate policy
17:00 History lesson on 1970s, 1980s inflation
19:00 Fiscal picture today and possible solutions
25:00 The fragility of the US economy
31:00 More persistent inflation
37:55 Fiscal Dominance
41:00 Assessing th