Always Be Birdin‪'‬ Samantha DeJarnett

Welcome back to the Always Be Birdin' Podcast!

We're sliding into Season 3 with self proclaimed Cemetery Birder, Danielle Belleny, as we celebrate her new book, This Is A Book For People Who Love Birds. Recently published, This Is A Book For People Who Love Birds is a short but sweet introduction to the world of birds and birding. Intended for those who don't realize they love birds yet and those who have just begun their journey, Danielle does a brilliant job of taking big scientific and social ideas and packing them in a way that is easy to digest and super fun to read!

Join us as we discuss different aspects of the book and celebrate Danielle for this huge accomplishment.

Last week I had my first ever live recording and today I have the absolute honor to bring you an interview with National Geographic Explorer and Storyteller, MIT Fellow and scuba diver, Tara Roberts. We discuss her recently released podcast, Into the Depths, where we as the listeners get to follow Tara as she works with fellow Black divers through Diving with a Purpose as they search for and help document sunken ships that carried enslaved African and were a part of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Tara talks with me about her experiences in making this podcast, what inspired her to learn how to dive and how that ultimately lead her down this deeply personal journey of identity through history and what it means to connect with our ancestors as well as descendants that are all around us today. This episode is personal to me as a mixed race Black woman in America. I was holding back tears for parts of this interview and am in awe of Tara's journey and her mission to bring the work of these Black scuba divers to the surface (no pun) and work to re-tell the stories of our ancestors and us as descendants.

Small grassroots organizations and individuals are the ones on the ground doing the hard work to create safe and educational spaces in nature for Black, Indigenous and people of color. What does it mean to have big dreams for our communities and NOT have to give them up because of barriers to funding? Philanthropy and distribution of money is gate kept by wealthy white people who are the ones to decide who is and isn't "worthy" of funding. The same money gets passed around at the top while those grassroots organizations are struggling to enact the change we need for our communities because we can't afford to put on the type of programming we want and that our communities deserve.

Today, I speak with Chandrika Francis who is the Founder and Facilitator of Oshun Swim School based in Seattle, WA, Lydia Parker who is a Co-Founder and Executive Director of Hunters of Color based in Portland, OR and Alex Troutman, Hunters of Color Mentee and Wildlife Biologist based in Austell, GA. We all do different work, but we are connected by our missions to create safe, healing and educational spaces for Black, Indigenous and people of color outside as well as the grant that is enabling us to aggressively pursue our dreams for a different future. We speak in depth and detail about the Liberated Paths Grantmaking Program through Justice Outside, why it is so important and how it is going to help us to lead our communities into collective liberation outside.

Wether you are a birder, hunter, grad student, biologist, nature lover or starting up your own small organization, this episode will help you understand the disparities of philanthropy and distribution of funding and teach you how it can and is being done differently.

In part 2 of this roundtable discussion, Candace, Daniela, Dexter, Angel, Jason and I dive deep into several important topics. We talk about why BIPOC only spaces are important for us to continue to breakdown historical narratives of cross cultural tension within BIPOC communities that is a design of white supremacy and Bird Joy can help break these cycles of in-culture discrimination. BIPOC peoples are of the land, of the water, of the trees and the animals and when we talk about reclaiming these spaces outside, it is more than just creating safe spaces, it is bringing us back to our ancestral rights to be with the land and however we choose to show up in it, white folk must be okay with it. It is no longer whiteness that dictates how this land is used and what it looks like. Shout out to our mentors of color who set us on our individual and collective paths to Occupy Birding and Normalize Bird Joy.
**Candace Williams is credited with the term "Occupy Birding" used at the end of this episode.
**Dexter Patterson is credited with the term "Bird Joy" which is used multiple times in this episode and the last one.

Meet five leaders in the community creating necessary spaces for BIPOC through organized outings. In this first part, we are introduced to each of them and hear their stories of what brought them to birding and eventually to starting BIPOC birding clubs or collectives. All of these people are wonderful and have a deep love of birding and brining that join into the BIPOC communities where they are from. In part 2 we talk a lot more deeply about the importance of BIPOC only spaces in birding.

03:37 Candace Williams of Chicago BIPOC Birding Network (unofficial) Chicago IL
07:43 Daniela Herrera of Chicago BIPOC Birding Network (unofficial) Chicago IL
14:07 Angel Ramirez of Oxnard Birder's Club, Oxnard CA
24:20 Dexter Patterson of BIPOC Birding Club of Wisconsin, Madison WI
38:46 Jason Hall of In Color Birding Club, Philadelphia PA

As bird lovers, one of the best and most memorable experiences we all hope to have is a close encounter with birds. Be it through meeting a falconer, visiting your local conservation organization or zoo or having a once in a lifetime moment out birding, seeing birds up close is nothing short of amazing. When we think about meeting a bird who is in captivity for educational purposes, what does it take for those birds to feel comfortable with the people that work with them and you as an audience member?

Today, I talk with Corina Newsome (@hood__naturalist), Ornithologist and Community Engagement Manager with Georgia Audubon, about the extremely exciting and interesting world of avian training for educational purposes. There is a lot to this profession and it is not an easy job. Corina and I discuss different training methods, bird language, species differences in captivity and why relationship and trust building is so important between bird and trainer.

We then Dig Into It and take all of these ideas around avian training and create a powerful metaphor for how white supremacy operates in institutional settings with Black, Brown and Indigenous people of color. We hone in on and dissect how important the intentionally slow, incremental steps (or approximations) towards re-building relationship and trust with the BIPOC community can be the radical behavioral shift white conservation organizations need to understand if they truly want to dismantle the pillars of oppression within their institutions.