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Hosted by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan, fiction/non/fiction interprets current events through the lens of literature, and features conversations with writers of all stripes, from novelists and poets to journalists and essayists.
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Cashing in on the White Bonus: Tracie McMillan on Privilege, Generational Wealth, and the Myth of Colorblindness
Author and journalist Tracie McMillan joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about the concept of the “white bonus” and how systemic bias generates white wealth not only in daily life but across generations. She references racial covenants, incarceration rates, and housing codes that continue to impact families, Black and white, to this day. She comments on the challenges of writing about her own experiences while also working as a journalist, and reads an excerpt from her new book, The White Bonus: Five Families and the Cash Value of Racism in America.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Charlie Sheckells.
Tracie McMillan
The White Bonus: Five Families and the Cash Value of Racism in America
The American Way of Eating
City Limits
Others:
Racism without Racists: Color-Blind Racism and the Persistence of Racial Inequality in America by Eduardo Bonilla-Silva
"The Man Who Made the Suburbs White," by Mark Dent | Slate
The King of Kings County by Whitney Terrell
The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together by Heather McGhee
Men We Reaped by Jesmyn Ward
Heavy by Kiese Layman
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1, Episode 24, Part I: “Jess Row and Timothy Yu on Whiteness and Writing About Race”
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1, Episode 24, Part II: “Jess Row and Timothy Yu on Learning From Writers Who Write About Race”
“What’s Your Bonus” | Thewhitebonus.com
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There’s Going to Be Trouble: Jen Silverman on Generational Divides in American Politics
As the presidential election heats up and President Joe Biden struggles to keep young voters’ support, novelist Jen Silverman joins co-host V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss generational divides in U.S. politics. Silverman, whose new book, There’s Going to Be Trouble, follows the political and sexual awakenings of a father and daughter in different eras, talks about how young people’s involvement in politics now compares to previous generations’ engagement. They address the question of whether today’s 20-something voters are more likely to protest than vote, consider how social media and technology relate to in-person conversations and activism, and reflect on the need to name and engage with the failures of earlier generations. Silverman also explains why they chose to write about anti-Vietnam War protests at Harvard in 1968 and the gilet jaunes (Yellow Vest) protests in Paris fifty years later, and reads an excerpt from There’s Going to Be Trouble.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Alijah Smith.
Jen Silverman
There’s Going to Be Trouble
We Play Ourselves
The Island Dwellers
Bath
The Moors
Others:
Family Ties (television sitcom)
Changing Partisan Coalitions in a Politically Divided Nation | Pew Research Center
“Who Are France's Yellow Vest Protesters, And What Do They Want?” by Jake Cigainero | NPR, December 3, 2018.
“The Generational Rift that Explains Democrats’ Angst over Israel” by Steven Shepard and Kelly Garrity | Politico, October 12, 2023
“Less than Half of Young Americans Plan to Vote in 2024, Harvard Poll Finds” by Joseph Konig | Spectrum News
“Young Voters are Unenthusiastic about Biden, but He Will Need Them in 2024” by Dan Balz | The Washington Post
“Climate Activists Target Jets, Yachts and Golf in a String of Global Protests Against Luxury” by David Brunat | AP News
“The Weapons French police use During Protests” by Jean-Philippe Lefief and Marie Pouzadoux | Le Monde, April 6, 2023
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 7, Episode 24: “Emily Raboteau on Mothering and Climate Change”
The Diary of Virginia Woolf, Volume 5 by Virginia Woolf
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How We Talk About Cancer: S.L. Wisenberg on Kate Middleton and the Language of the Big C
In the wake of the news that Kate Middleton, the Princess of Wales, has cancer, author S.L. (Sandi) Wisenberg joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about the control that public—and private—figures should have over the disclosure of their diagnoses. Wisenberg, who survived breast cancer, and Terrell, who was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer, name books they have read that have helped them discover humor in their journey from testing to treatment, and reflect on the challenging nuances of what it means to have cancer. They talk about how and when they decided to tell their loved ones, friends, and students about their condition. Wisenberg reads from her 2009 book The Adventures of Cancer Bitch, which will be reissued in paperback in October.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Jasmine Shackleford.
S.L. (Sandi) Wisenberg
The Adventures of Cancer Bitch
The Sweetheart Is In
Holocaust Girls
The Wandering Womb
Others:
“Princess of Wales Apologizes, Saying She Edited Image,” by Mark Landler and Lauren Leatherby | The New York Times
Kate Middleton announces her cancer diagnosis | NBC News
Time on Fire: My Comedy of Terrors by Evan Handler
Cancer Made Me a Shallower Person: A Memoir in Comics by Miriam Engelberg
Memoir of a Debulked Woman by Susan Gubar
Our Cancer Year by Harvey Pekar and Joyce Brabner
The Cancer Journals by Audre Lorde
Dr. Susan Love’s Breast Book by Susan Love
Señor Wences
American Splendor
Running in the Family by Michael Ondaatje
Dick York
Nora Ephron
Carl Bernstein
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David Baron on What Literature Tells Us About the 2024 Eclipse
In anticipation of the total solar eclipse forecast for April 8, author and journalist David Baron joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss his award-winning book, American Eclipse, which chronicles the remarkable solar eclipse of 1878. Baron, a self-proclaimed umbraphile, or eclipse chaser, explains why he chose to write about the Wild West-era event, which darkened skies from Montana to Texas. He also talks about what has driven him to see eight total solar eclipses across the globe. As the upcoming eclipse is forecast to affect a sizable swath of the U.S.—the last time this will happen until 2045—he reflects on why these rare occurrences captivate humanity and discusses how their lore has influenced famous writers, including Mark Twain and Emily Dickinson. He reads from American Eclipse.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Amanda Trout.David BaronAmerican Eclipse: A Nation's Epic Race to Catch the Shadow of the Moon and Win the Glory of the WorldBeast In The Garden: The True Story Of A Predator’s Deadly Return To Suburban AmericaTED Talk: "You owe it to yourself to experience a solar eclipse"Others:"It Sounded as if the Streets Were Running" by Emily DickinsonKing Lear by William Shakespeare The Eclipse by James Fenimore Cooper"Battle of the Eclipse in the Lydian and Median War of Ancient Greece" | GreekBoston.com A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by Mark TwainTeaching a Stone to Talk: Expeditions and Encounters by Annie DillardSuperman IV: The Quest for PeaceLog Your Eclipse | Eclipse-Chasers.com“Eclipse Literature” by Lara Dodds | Northwestern UniversityThe Eclipse, or the Courtship of the Sun and the Moon
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David Baron on What Literature Tells Us About the 2024 Eclipse
In anticipation of the total solar eclipse forecast for April 8, author and journalist David Baron joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss his award-winning book, American Eclipse, which chronicles the remarkable solar eclipse of 1878. Baron, a self-proclaimed umbraphile, or eclipse chaser, explains why he chose to write about the Wild West-era event, which darkened skies from Montana to Texas. He also talks about what has driven him to see eight total solar eclipses across the globe. As the upcoming eclipse is forecast to affect a sizable swath of the U.S.—the last time this will happen until 2045—he reflects on why these rare occurrences captivate humanity and discusses how their lore has influenced famous writers, including Mark Twain and Emily Dickinson. He reads from American Eclipse.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Amanda Trout.
David Baron
American Eclipse: A Nation's Epic Race to Catch the Shadow of the Moon and Win the Glory of the World
Beast In The Garden: The True Story Of A Predator’s Deadly Return To Suburban America
TED Talk: "You owe it to yourself to experience a solar eclipse"
Others:
"It Sounded as if the Streets Were Running" by Emily Dickinson
King Lear by William Shakespeare
The Eclipse by James Fenimore Cooper
"Battle of the Eclipse in the Lydian and Median War of Ancient Greece" | GreekBoston.com
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by Mark Twain
Teaching a Stone to Talk: Expeditions and Encounters by Annie Dillard
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
Log Your Eclipse | Eclipse-Chasers.com
“Eclipse Literature” by Lara Dodds | Northwestern University
The Eclipse, or the Courtship of the Sun and the Moon
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En Vogue: Sally Franson on Fashion and Literature
Novelist Sally Franson joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about Fashion Week 2024, the role fashion plays in characterization, and how stylish authors and characters have modeled and influenced tastes and trends. Franson reflects on her time working in the industry and discusses insiders’ perceptions of various Fashion Weeks around the globe. She discusses literary style icons including Isabel Archer, Nancy Mitford, James Baldwin, and Bridget Jones, and considers the influence of fashion in her first novel, A Lady’s Guide To Selling Out, which has just been reissued in paperback. She reads an excerpt from that book.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Sally Franson
A Lady’s Guide To Selling Out
Big In Sweden (forthcoming)
"Shoe Obsession for the Ages: Prince’s Killer Collection of Custom Heels, Now on View" August 3, 2021 | The New York Times
Others:
"Top 10 best-dressed characters in fiction" by Amanda Craig, July 1, 2020 | The Guardian
“The Best Looks from New York Fashion Week Fall/Winter 2024” | Elle.com
"Off the page: fashion in literature" by Helen Gordon, September 18, 2009 | The Guardian
"Literature-inspired menswear collections for summer 2024" by Paschal Mourier| France24
"Anna Sui’s new collection is inspired by Agatha Christie, so obviously the runway was at the Strand." by Emily Temple | Literary Hub
James Baldwin
Joan Didion
Not-Knowing by Donald Barthelme
Rachel Comey and The New York Review of Books
The Pursuit of Love by Nancy Mitford
Bridget Jones’s Diary by Helen Fielding
Vile Bodies by Evelyn Waugh
Little Women by Louisa May Alcott
The Portrait of a Lady by Henry James
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