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Welcome to ALD Stories, a series of conversations where we share the untold stories of atomic layer deposition and the people behind the technology.
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Connecting the German ALD Community with Martin Knaut ALD Stories Ep. 31
Episode 31 features German ALD professor, Dr. Martin Knaut. Martin is the chair for the Institute of Semiconductor and Microsystems Technology at TU Dresden and the atomic layer processing group leader. He is also a founding member of the Atomic Layer Process Innovation Network, or ALPIN, organizer of the annual ALD for Industry event, and runs a small in situ tool development company, called ALS Metrology. With a long career working with ALD in Dresden, at the likes of Infineon and Qimonda, Martin has witnessed the ebbs and flows of the semiconductor industry in the state of Saxony.
Martin and Tyler discuss the goal of the Silicon Saxony organization, how we can better recruit students in microelectronics, and why he originally started the Atomic Layer Process Innovation Network. They also discuss his company, ALS Metrology, the importance of using in situ monitoring for process development, and his work on flash-enhanced ALD.
In this episode:
00:00 Intro
01:48 Martin’s background & semiconductors in Dresden
10:00 Recruiting issues for microelectronics
17:29 ALPIN & ALD for Industry events
29:34 ALS Metrology
34:57 Importance of in situ monitoring
41:59 Flash-Enhanced ALD
53:55 Concluding remarks -
SnS ALD and Ultrathin Solar Cells with Carl Hägglund – ALD Stories Ep. 30
In this episode, Tyler is joined by Professor Carl Hägglund from Uppsala University. They discuss Carl’s motivations for pursuing ultrathin solar cells, how he learned ALD at Stanford in Stacey Bent’s lab, and an unlikely research connection through his child’s school. They also talk about why ALD is useful for plasmonic solar cells, optimization of SnS ALD and his planned path towards a fully realized ultrathin photovoltaic.
00:00 Introduction
01:45 Motivation for fabricating plasmonic solar cells
09:58 Learning ALD at Stanford
22:46 Optimizing SnS ALD process
30:33 Path towards an ultrathin solar cell -
Introducing ALD to the Semiconductor Industry with Suvi Haukka
Dr. Suvi Haukka, former executive technologist at ASM, ASM Fellow and ALD Innovator Awardee, joins Tyler for Episode 29. Suvi began her ALD career at Microchemistry in Finland working on atomic layer epitaxy on catalysts for under the direction of ALD technology inventor, Tuomo Suntola. She continued with Microchemistry as head of the thin film development group before spending most of her time teaching the world’s biggest semiconductor companies, like Intel and Samsung, about ALD. Suvi is one of the integral people in introducing ALD to the semiconductor industry in the 2000s.
Suvi and Tyler discuss how she started working with ALD, what it was like to do a PhD with Tuomo Suntola, and how the make up of Microchemistry changed over the years. We also discuss the circumstances surrounding the ASM acquisition, how development changed under new leadership, and how it felt pitching ALD to the semiconductor industry.
In this episode:
00:32 Introduction to Microchemistry
06:01 Doing a PhD with Tuomo Suntola
19:00 Visiting semiconductor companies
25:37 Post-ASM acquisition
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Breaking Efficiency Records using ALD with Hele Savin – ALD Stories Ep. 28
In Episode 28 of ALD Stories, Tyler is joined by Aalto University’s Hele Savin. Hele is a professor in the department of Electronics and Nanoengineering where she uses ALD to engineer photovoltaics and semiconductor devices. In 2017, Hele was awarded the women’s innovation prize from the Finnish parliament after fabricating a black silicon solar cell with a record-breaking 22.1% efficiency and currently uses ALD to create induced junction photodiodes with over 100% external quantum efficiency.
Hele and Tyler discuss how she was first exposed to ALD by Beneq, a mindset that using ALD was dirty, and how mind-blowing early ALD passivation results were. We also talk about why ALD oxides are better than thermal SiO2, the theoretical implications of breaking 100% EQE, and upcoming work in up conversion in her lab.
In this episode:
00:00 Intro
07:45 First experience with ALD
16:37 Passivation of Black Si Solar cells
29:52 ALD for Induced Junction Diodes
39:06 Theoretical Implications of High EQE
47:35 Future Up Conversion work -
The Secret to 100 ALD Patents with Rob Clark
For Ep. 27, Dr. Rob Clark from Tokyo Electron joins to discuss his rise from an equipment know-nothing to ALD process engineer extraordinaire. Rob, the self-proclaimed Manipulator of Matter, is a Senior MTS and Technology Director at TEL where he leads process and integration of thin film deposition methods for next-generation semiconductor devices.
Recorded live at ALD ALE 2023 in Washington, Rob and Tyler discuss how he first learned ALD on CVD equipment, the early days of high-k ALD process development, and his work in making some of the first hafnium precursors for ALD integration in semicon at Schumacher. They also talk about his time as the only engineer at NanoFab North in Albany, how incredibly advanced semiconductor technology has become, and what the next decade of ALD research might look like.
In this episode:
00:00 Introduction
01:58 Post-grad at Schumacher
13:23 Learning the ALD ropes
19:16 Early HfO2 process development
23:40 Albany, NY Semi ecosystem
32:32 ALD process development insights
42:24 How cool are semiconductors?!’
49:44 Rob’s ALD Outlook -
Balancing Fundamental and Applied ALD with Stacey Bent – ALD Stories Ep. 26
In Episode 26, Professor Stacey Bent from Stanford University joins to discuss all aspects of her career, including early area selective deposition work, how her different academic appointments in chemistry and engineering have influenced the direction of her work, and how ALD can be used in energy applications. Stacey and Tyler also chat about how Stacey finds the best paths for her students, how being a professor and Vice Provost feedback to each other, and new programs she has initiated in her Vice Provost position.
In this episode:
00:00 Introduction
03:45 Area Selective Work
15:40 Chemistry & Engineering Backgrounds
21:20 ALD for energy applications
33:54 Stacey as an advisor
36:19 Vice Provost position