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Jonny Mack is the co-founder and CEO of Fabric, the company pioneering minting NFT subscriptions with HyperSub. In his past life, Jonny was a design lead at Google Cloud, and a design freelancer for Coinbase.
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In today’s episode, we discuss:
Introduction to Hypersub (00:01:19) Jonny explains the concept of Hypersub as a protocol and app, adding a time dimension to NFTs.
Journey into Crypto (00:09:18) Jonny's background in crypto, the transition to being a founder, and the importance of conviction.
Conceptualizing Hypersub (00:11:26) The process of conceptualizing Hypersub as a solution for recurring revenue and ownership sharing.
Empowering Creators (00:14:55) The significance of creators having control over payment rails and the vision for novel experiences across platforms.
Fuel for Inspiration (00:22:02) Creators' success stories and inspiration from their earnings on Hypersub.
Flexible Revenue Options for Creators (00:27:19) Discussion on the potential inclusion of allowance-based mechanisms for creators and the addition of better analytics to the Hypersub dashboard.
Tools for Financial Management (00:29:52) The importance of tools like Stripe for financial management and tax filing for creators earning in crypto.
Consumer Behavior in Web3 (00:36:44) Exploration of consumer behavior in web3 and the ease of spending in crypto compared to web2.
Referral System and Marketing Strategies (00:42:53) The power of the referral system and the role of marketing, memes, and engagement in attracting creators to Hypersub.
The importance of memes (00:45:32) Jonny reflects on the role of memes in balancing seriousness and fun.
Mentioned: Hypersub, Stripe, Fabric, Farcaster, Coinbase, 0xen, m/branson
Until next time,
- Kaloh


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Roope Rainisto is a Finnish AI artist and designer who fuses a design career, storytelling, and AI in his art. He is recognized for crafting iconic AI art collections, including ‘Life in West America’ in collaboration with BrainDrops. Before venturing into the art world, Roope worked as a designer at Microsoft and co-founded Varjo, a VR studio.
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In today’s episode, we discuss:
Roope’s Background (00:00:44) Roope’s transition from a career in design to becoming an independent AI artist.
Exploring AI and Blockchain (00:03:22) Roope talks about his interest in AI and his gradual understanding of blockchain and NFTs.
Life in West America Collection (00:10:31) Roope explains the inspiration and impact of his "Life in West America" art collection.
Inspiration Behind "Vacation" Collection (00:14:59) Vacation, American culture and escapism.
Artistic Process and Curation (00:22:26) Roope details his creative process, including his art collection's incubation time and curation methods.
Curating art (00:28:59) Roope discusses his experience curating art for a show, highlighting the challenges and importance of curation and the value of fresh perspectives.
AI in filmmaking (00:35:50) Roope advocates for a hybrid approach and emphasizes the importance of storytelling.
Artistic inspiration (00:47:21) Roope shares three artists who inspire him: Franz Kafka for his unique perspective, David Lynch for his dreamlike art, and Queen for their authenticity.
Until next time,
- Kaloh
Mentioned: Stable Diffusion, Robert Frank, Lars Von Trier, Opensea, Right Click Save, Photoshop, Lightroom, Midjourney, Franz Kafka, David Lynch, Verse, Queen, Fellowship, Braindrops.
Collections: Vacation, Life in West America.



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Mark Wilson, aka 'die with the most likes', is an Indiana-based artist and writer. His work, born from the destructive blue light of screens, infects the digital art scene, including DART Milano's inaugural exhibition. He's showcased at renowned venues like the Venice Biennale, Glitch Marfa, and the Museum of Crypto Art. He has four books published and a fifth on the horizon.
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In today’s episode, we discuss:
Separating Personas and Online Presence (00:02:55) Mark talks about being doxed early due to being an author and the need for genuine online conversations.
Art and Writing Connection (00:05:32) Mark emphasizes the impact of his writing on his art and the personal experiences reflected in his work.
Social Media and Art (00:10:08) Mark discusses the demands of social media in creating meaningful art.
Glitch Marfa Residency and Generative Art (00:17:44) Mark shares his excitement for his upcoming residency in Marfa, Texas, and the launch of his first generative art collection with Glitch Marfa, exploring digital suffering.
First Generative Art Collection (00:21:18) Mark discusses the significance of his upcoming generative art collection as his first official venture into generative art, highlighting the collaborative process and the unique aspects of the collection.
Beginnings in Digital Art (00:25:17) Mark's journey from creating digital art on Hic et Nunc to minting pieces on Foundation.
Platform Choices and Artistic Creation (00:30:02) Mark's thoughts on the importance of creation for the sake of creation.
Excitement and Disappointment in the Web 3 (00:32:56) Mark's views on the current state of the art space, including the shift in attitudes and concerns about art creation for the sake of sale.
Until next time,
- Kaloh
Mentioned: Glitch Marfa, Art Blocks Engine, Right Click Save, Foundation, Artnome, SuperRare, XCopy, Oona, Summer Wagner, Alien Queen, Madison Mage, Malte, Derek Edws, 30M Glitch Marfa Residency, Transient Labs.
Collections: beef brothkos, strip mall salvation, Legalize Ground Beef.


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Junior Ngoma, aka Fingacode, is a Cameroonian artist living in the UK. He fuses various art forms with technology, particularly exploring audio-visual and interactive artworks.
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In today’s episode, we discuss:
Early life in Cameroon (00:00:48) Fingacode shares details about his life in Cameroon and his artistic beginnings.
Introduction to digital art (00:01:40) Fingacode talks about his transition to digital art and his early experiences with design and coding.
Incorporating music into art (00:03:25) Fingacode discusses his passion for merging technology with creative arts and incorporating music into his work.
Discovery of blockchain and NFTs (00:06:18) Fingacode shares his introduction to blockchain and NFTs and the influence of fellow artists on his decision to explore this technology.
First NFT creation (00:07:53) Fingacode describes the creation and minting of his first NFT artwork.
Artistic routine and inspiration (00:08:51) Artistic routine, work environment, and sources of inspiration.
Influence of memes on art (00:10:40) The discussion explores the role of memes in attracting attention to Fingacode’s work and its impact on his artistic career.
Collaboration with galleries (00:12:43) Fingacode shares his experiences working with galleries, including Bright Moments, and the impact on his artistic journey.
Art scene in Cameroon (00:19:18) Fingacode reflects on the art scene in Cameroon and his experience visiting the national museum, highlighting the differences in preservation and cultural significance.
The state of digital art today (00:21:03) Discussion on the pros and cons of being a digital artist and the evolving art space.
Advice for aspiring digital artists (00:26:07) Encouragement to experiment and find one's own path in digital art.
Managing supply, pricing, and marketing (00:27:44) Considerations in managing supply, pricing, and marketing in the digital art market.
Exploring physical generative art (00:31:35) Discussion on the intersection of generative art and physical fabric creation.
Influences and inspirations (00:35:20) Fingacode’s inspirations from creative coders and artists who blend technical brilliance with artistry.
Until next time,
- Kaloh
Mentioned: Three.js, Sound Cloud API, Touch Designer, Bright Moments, NTH Culture, Dmitri Cherniak, PROOF, Seth Goldstein, Translucent Panes, Ana María Caballero, Zach Lieberman, Michael Kozlowski, IXShells, Linda Dounia, Spongenuity.


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Seth Goldstein is an entrepreneur, art collector, and mentor, who has led pioneering ventures for two decades. He founded Bright Moments in 2021, a digital art gallery fostering crypto art communities worldwide, pioneering live IRL minting experiences with digital artists. Co-founding companies like SiteSpecific and Majestic Research, he's made waves in internet advertising and data analysis. This Podcast episode is sponsored by Studio asisi, the team behind Berlin-based artist Yadegar Asisi, who has been exhibiting the world's largest panoramas and creating immersive art for over 20 years. His inaugural digital collection, Canvas Legacies, pays homage to the Impressionist movement and nimbly blends analog and digital. Now minting on https://nft.asisi.de/
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In today’s episode, we discuss:
Venice's Unique Vibe (00:02:07) Seth describes Venice, Italy's unique lifestyle and atmosphere, focusing on its small streets and artistic history.
Bright Moments' Finale in Venice (00:03:14) Seth explains the significance of Venice for the Bright Moments project's finale, including minting crypto citizens and the finale project.
Showcasing at Venice Biennale (00:04:30) Seth discusses the international art fair and festival, Venice Biennale, and the deliberate timing of the Bright Moments finale to coincide with the event.
Cultural Awareness and Evolution (00:07:10) Seth reflects on the journey of cultural awareness and sophistication of the Bright Moments project from London to Paris.
Challenges of Nomad Life (00:09:37) Seth shares the complexities and emotions of living a nomadic lifestyle for three years and the toll it takes on relationships and work.
Economic and Market Changes (00:12:00) Seth discusses the economic volatility and market changes experienced by Bright Moments, including shifts in cryptocurrency values and competition from other projects.
Incorporating Shiny Objects (00:15:42) Seth addresses incorporating new trends like meme coins, Ordinals, and Farcaster into the Bright Moments finale event.
Future Plans for Bright Moments (00:27:17) Seth hints at taking a breather after the finale and reflects on the team's hard work, expressing a desire for people to reflect on and appreciate the minted NFTs.
Decentralization and community events (00:31:17) Discussion on decentralization, community-hosted events, and the shift of decision-making to the community.
Meme coins and art market trends (00:35:11) Their impact, and the trends in the art market.
Artist and collector challenges (00:42:05) The challenges faced by artists and collectors in the current art market, including the need for experimentation and adaptation.
Ordinals and the Bitcoin ecosystem (00:45:29) Discussion on ordinals, its relationship with the Bitcoin ecosystem, and limitations compared to Ethereum-based art projects.
Until next time,
- Kaloh
Mentioned: Piter Pasma, Monica Rizzoli, Phil, Spongenuity, Venice Biennale, Bright Moments, Crypto Citizens, Foundation, Ethereum, Solana, Bitcoin Ordinals, Base, Coinbase, Farcaster, MetaMask, Tezos, OpenSea, Tyler Hobbs, Zancan, Zach Lieberman, Casey Reas, Lauren Lee McCarthy, Martin Grasser, Camille Roux, Squiggles, Mitchell F Chan, Sofia Crespo.



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Oona is an anonymous conceptual artist, who explores the intersections of technology, finance, gender, and identity through her moving images and performance art. She has exhibited globally, earning critical acclaim and attention from collectors and curators. She was awarded the prestigious Playboy & Sevens Foundation grant for the "Art of Gender & Sexuality."
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In today’s episode, we discuss:
Oona's message and evolution (00:00:49) Oona's evolution as an anonymous conceptual artist and the message behind her art.
Entering the crypto art world (00:02:17) Oona's introduction to the world of crypto art and her goal to expand knowledge through her art.
Challenges and opportunities in performance art (00:04:41) Oona's experiences and challenges in gatecrashing events and the significance of performance art in the crypto art world.
Integration of blockchain technology with performance art (00:07:31) Oona's excitement about integrating blockchain technology with performance art and her first experience of minting NFTs.
Collectors and the significance of Oona's art (00:09:12) The relationship between Oona's collectors and her performance art, including the impact of her art on the audience.
Oona's grant from Playboy and the reaction of collectors (00:10:06) Oona's grant from Playboy, the reaction of her collectors, and the humorous situation with some of her first collectors.
The concept and process of "Look Touch Own" (00:15:43) The concept and process of Oona's performance piece "Look Touch Own," including the message behind it and the audience's varied reactions.
Cultural Reactions to Performance (00:19:20) Oona shares the diverse reactions to her performance in different cities, highlighting the cultural differences in response.
Extreme Reactions in Paris (00:20:44) Oona describes the extreme range of reactions she experienced during her performance in Paris, including crying, nudity, and unexpected interactions.
Data Tracking and Consent (00:23:53) Oona explains the process of obtaining consent and tracking interactions during her performance, emphasizing the use of non-disclosure agreements and data collection.
Creating Digital Artwork from Interactions (00:25:51) Oona discusses the creation of unique digital artwork based on interactions and preserving participants' anonymity.
Organic Sales Approach (00:30:15) Oona explains how the sales approach aligns with the collaborative nature of her performance, emphasizing the organic and performative aspects of the sales process.
Dealing with Censorship and Algorithms (00:35:15) Oona discusses the challenges of showcasing her art, which explores gender and sexuality, on social media platforms due to censorship and algorithm biases.
The Significance of Anonymity and the Mask (00:40:26) Oona explains why she chooses to remain anonymous and wear a mask, highlighting its role in broadening the conversation about the female body and identity.
Until next time,
- Kaloh
Mentioned: Art Basel, Playboy, Look Touch Own, NFC, Valie Export, Violet Bond, Dolly Parton



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