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No Tags is a podcast and newsletter from Chal Ravens and Tom Lea chronicling underground music culture.

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    20: Does payola exist in underground music?

    20: Does payola exist in underground music?

    A fairly big topic this week, as Tom and Chal investigate the issue of payola in underground music. Does it exist? Well, kind of - but not in the way you might think.
    Some background: in our Fish56Octagon episode, Tom mentioned that he was pretty sure that Fish was being seeded and potentially paid to play people’s music. A couple of people got in touch to confirm that the first part of that at least was true, and it got us thinking: accusations of money changing hands for coverage are still pretty rife in dance music discourse, and we’ve not really seen this publicly investigated before.
    Given that we’ve both offered quite a lot of our adult lives to cultivating the content farm, we figured we were in a good position to talk about this topic: notable examples of it we’ve seen in our careers, how prevalent it is or isn’t in the music press, and what it tells us about both the current climate of music media and its uncomfortable relationships with advertising and creative agencies. Plus: the story of a certain disgraced record label once pulling its advertising from FACT over a middling album review.
    Elsewhere, we address recent accusations of a No Tags anti-baldness agenda, talk the first music from SOPHIE’s forthcoming posthumous album and celebrate an all-timer of a victory lap in the form of Kendrick Lamar’s Pop Out concert. Cool underground dance recommendations? Who needs those when you have a roomful of NBA players and California gang leaders dancing on the grave of Drake’s reputation.
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    • 40 min
    19: The expanding universe of Brazilian funk, part 2

    19: The expanding universe of Brazilian funk, part 2

    We're back with the second part of our conversation with GG Albuquerque, our expert guide to the new-new wave of Brazilian funk.
    This time we find out about how bailes operate inside the favelas, Brazil’s love-hate relationship with funk, oppressive policing, grime connections, regional DJ cultures and more.
    We also carve out the minimum possible amount of time to discuss Brat, once again, and GG has put together a funk playlist of personal favourites and hidden gems. Bosh.
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    • 52 min
    18: The expanding universe of Brazilian funk, part 1

    18: The expanding universe of Brazilian funk, part 1

    We’re witnessing a breakthrough moment (again) for Brazil's funk scene, an ever-expanding universe of bone-shaking low-end, CDJ theatrics, synesthetic drug cocktails, barking MCs, extreme production choices and a fuckton of wraparound sunglasses.
    It's incredible music, but it's not always easy to keep up with what's going on, so in this episode – the first of a two-part interview – we speak to GG Albuquerque, a journalist and researcher from Recife, who last year accompanied São Paulo’s DJ K on tour in Europe.
    We begin with a dive into the trajectory of funk over the past decade, from KondZilla to 150 to bruxaria, with detours into music distribution, DJ culture, the pacification of the favelas and the real favourite tipple of funkeiras.
    Tom and Chal also get into the Warhammer mailbag with internet thinker Jay Springett and, inevitably, take a moment for Brat.
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    • 53 min
    17: Fred Again walked so Fish56Octagon could swim

    17: Fred Again walked so Fish56Octagon could swim

    Some say that algorithmic content has fragmented our social media feeds to the point that we no longer exist in a shared culture. Others say, ‘Has anybody else noticed that bald dude in a dressing gown all over Instagram suddenly?’ We think you know who we mean, but either way, let us introduce you to the one-man DJ phenomenon that is Fish56Octagon.
    Who is the Fish? What does he want? And what can he tell us about music in 2024? In this episode, Tom and Chal talk about the sudden rise of the country’s biggest DJ-influencer, how club culture has become dependent on social-first Moments™, and how Fred Again walked so Fish96Octagon could… swim.
    Plus, Tom recommends Danish producer Astrid Sonne, Chal reports back on cult classic movie Party Girl, and we have further thoughts on Billie Eilish’s SoundCloud takeover.
    We’re still gathering your communiques for our mailbag episode, so send any feedback, questions or topics you’d like us to talk about via email or the Substack comments section.
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    • 48 min
    16: Iglooghost, rockpooling for subgenres in a parallel world

    16: Iglooghost, rockpooling for subgenres in a parallel world

    As if we hadn’t gorged enough on lore last week, this time we welcome one of electronic music’s boldest world-builders, Iglooghost.
    Iglooghost’s new album Tidal Memory Exo takes place in a punk-dystopian vision of a British seaside town that’s been cut off from the rest of society. It even comes accompanied by an online forum where users debate the politics and micro-genres of the local “tidal scene” (sporestyle, tektonikore, foamtek) and an online marketplace where people sell mysterious sea creatures and offer theories about their origins, among many other diversions. 
    Something else that interested us about the project is that while Iglooghost’s early releases took place in full-on fantasy world, recently he’s started creating parallel universes based in Britain, bringing his lore-making closer to his own reality. Prior to Tidal Memory Exo, he created a whole world around “Lei Music” – a supposedly ancient musical style performed to summon “strange, squeaking entities” in rural Dorset, the part of south-west England where he grew up.
    Naturally we spoke to him about all that and about lore in general, as well as getting his insights on the ever-changing nature of the online experience, his obsessive fans, TikTok as a ghost town, and the risk of world-building becoming too cynical. Never go full Marvel, basically.
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    • 1 hr 4 min
    15: Learning to love lorecore

    15: Learning to love lorecore

    We’re still reeling from last week’s Reynoldsmania, but in the wake of our conversation with the great music scribe about the past and future of electronic music, this time we’re firmly in the present.
    First, Chal puts forward a thesis about the genre trend of the moment – a movement that brings together Taylor Swift, Disney Adults, A. G. Cook and Warhammer freaks. Welcome to the lorecore era.
    Next, we wade knee-deep into the sludgy waters of NYC band Couch Slut’s new album You Could Do It Tonight, a must-listen for fans of metal and hardcore’s scuzzier side, equal parts uncomfortable and funny. We chat about why bands like Couch Slut feel so refreshing compared to so much of the extreme music that came before them.
    Speaking of humour, is Chappell Roan’s The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess the messy pop masterpiece we so desperately need in 2024? Maybe not, considering it actually came out last year, but we only just discovered it and we’re both obsessed. Old school FACT fans might remember our love for Miley’s Bangerz era and Sky Ferreira’s Night Time, My Time, and this LP is in that lineage, offering ridiculous tunes and modern dating advice to boot.
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    • 34 min

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