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Process Driven is a podcast about creativity and what it means to those who do more than make art. Frank, in-depth conversations with makers from a wide range of disciplines including photography, art, design, music, and literature to discuss not only the what and the how, but also the why.

Process Driven Jeffery Saddoris

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Process Driven is a podcast about creativity and what it means to those who do more than make art. Frank, in-depth conversations with makers from a wide range of disciplines including photography, art, design, music, and literature to discuss not only the what and the how, but also the why.

    Setting the Intention for 2021

    Setting the Intention for 2021

    Like many of you, I could not be happier to finally be rid of the raging dumpster fire that was 2020. I know the next year will be anything but easy, but I am cautiously optimistic that 2021 will be filled with new possibilities and chances to do things a little differently than last year.

    I started doing yoga about a month ago and Adrianne reminded me that there’s a concept in yoga about setting an intention at the beginning of a practice and while I’m not a fan of resolutions per se, I wanted to share a few things today that I’ve been thinking about for a while as a way of setting my intentions for the year ahead.

    To that end, I want to let you know about some of the changes that I’m making both personally and professionally moving forward.

    Let’s start with my shows. Early in 2020 I created a new feed called “Jeffery Saddoris: Everything” as a way for you to get everything I release, including Process Driven, In Between, Iterations, and any sort of one-off conversation, like the recent chat with Bill Wadman, all in one place. The response to that feed has been terrific – in fact subscriptions to the individual feeds have dropped off considerably as subscriptions to Everything have increased. It’s not one to one, but it’s enough that I’m going to deprecate the individual show feeds so that moving forward, I will only be publishing new episodes to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything. If you’re already subscribed to Everything, great. You will continue to get all of the episodes that I release, which should be not only easier to manage under just one feed but also more frequent since I don’t have to try to figure out where a particular conversation fits. If you are subscribed to one or more of the individual show feeds, please subscribe to Everything so you don’t miss anything moving forward.

    And I want you to know that I’ve thought about this quite a bit. I know there are some of you who might only want to listen to Process Driven and this move might initially feel like kind of a bummer. But, I think the way we listen to podcasts has changed, partially because there are so many. I know it’s definitely changed for me over the last few years. I subscribe to dozens of shows and only a very few do I listen to every episode. Instead, I simply create playlists of the episodes that look interesting to me, and the trends show that I’m not in the minority here.

    One of the things I’ve struggled with for quite a while is monetizing the work I do – and that goes for all of the work I do, from design work for clients to selling my paintings to whether or not to run ads on my podcasts. And without getting too deep into it here, it all revolves around self-worth and how I assign or ascribe value to the work I do. But I think I’ve come up with a solution that Adrianne and I have been talking about for a while now. A few days ago I tweeted a Venn diagram with creativity on one side and philanthropy on the other and that place in the middle of those two things is where I want to be. So the solution we’ve come up with is that we’re going to donate the majority of any revenue that my creative endeavors generate into arts education and related non-profits. We’ll have details on the actual organizations soon, but the big picture is that this allows me to value the work I do in a way other than what it can do for me. It actually becomes more valuable in that the worth of it directly helps more than just me. I’m incredibly excited about it and again more details are forthcoming but that’s the big picture.

    I think that’s enough for the moment. As I said, I’ll have more details around all of this in the coming weeks. If you have questions or comments, you can find me on Twitter or Instagram @jefferysaddoris. You can also email me at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com.

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    Process Driven 36: Gregory Crewdson

    Process Driven 36: Gregory Crewdson

    There are only a handful of photographers whose work is instantly recognizable and fewer still who have become a genre unto themselves. I was first introduced to the pictures of Gregory Crewdson through a body of work called Beneath the Roses. I felt instantly connected to that world he so meticulously crafted and I’ve been a huge admirer of his work ever since.

    In 2016, I had the opportunity to sit down with Gregory for a conversation about his body of work called Cathedral of the Pines. It was a terrific experience for me, not just because Gregory is one of my favorite photographers, but because it provided a glimpse behind the curtain to a photographic world that I find both moving and familiar. In 2018, Gregory began making photographs for his newest body of work. An Eclipse of Moths continues his exploration of themes like brokenness and isolation as well as a profound connection to light and the encroachment of the natural world. To some that world may seem bleak, especially on first glance — but a deeper look will reveal a narrative that is hopeful and rich with possibility.

    As we sat down to talk about An Eclipse of Moths, I began by asking him about the geography he revisits again and again and whether his pictures could be made anywhere else or is the place he now calls home a necessary part of his expression as an artist.



    An Eclipse of Moths (with music by Jeff Tweedy) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYhGYZCc_hk

    An Eclipse of Moths (Aperture book) - https://aperture.org/books/gregory-crewdson-an-eclipse-of-moths/

    Process Driven 05: Gregory Crewdson - https://jefferysaddoris.com/everything/processdriven-05/

    CNN Arts Feature - https://www.cnn.com/style/article/gregory-crewdson-photography-eclipse-of-moths/index.html



    Funerary Back Lot, 2018 - 2019

    Digital Pigment Print

    56 1/4 x 94 7/8 inches / 142.9 x 241 cm (unframed)

    Edition of 4, with 2 APs

    © Gregory Crewdson. Courtesy Gagosian

    Connect with Gregory: Website | Instagram | Twitter


    Music in this episode: Please Listen Carefully (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0


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    • 46 min
    Process Driven 35: Maria Lax

    Process Driven 35: Maria Lax


    I don’t remember how it came up but I was talking to Sean Tucker a while back and we ended up talking about different photographers that we had found recently and he asked me whether I’d seen the work of Maria Lax. Maria is a Finnish photographer based in London who had published a book called Some Kind of Heavenly Fire. Honestly the title alone was enough to pique my interest but what I found beyond it was a fantastic set of images that were inspired by a book her grandfather wrote documenting a series of encounters with UFOs by the locals of the small Finnish town where she grew up. I’ve always had a fascination with UFOs so I was interested straight away and the work beautifully straddles the line between reality and possibility. Maria takes a little X-Files, a bit of Twin Peaks, and maybe even a dash of Todd Hido and turns it into something uniquely her own—and that combination of style and vision is there in both her personal and her commercial work, which is no easy feat.

    I’d like to thank Tom Booth Woodger at Setanta Books for not only arranging an introduction to Maria but also for providing me a copy of her wonderful book Some Kind of Heavenly Fire.


    Connect with Maria: Website | Instagram

    Some Kind of Heavenly Fire

    Setanta Books


    Music in this episode: Please Listen Carefully (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0


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    • 54 min
    Process Driven 34: Shane Balkowitsch

    Process Driven 34: Shane Balkowitsch

    There’s something about wet plate photography that I can’t get out of my head. Maybe it’s the process, maybe it’s the unpredictable nature of it - Sally Mann calls it “the angel of uncertainty.” Or maybe it’s the permanence of the objects themselves. When you look at a plate by Matthew Brady or Timothy O’Sullivan, for a moment you’re no longer part of the present. And I would argue that that sense of timelessness is one of the reasons a handful of modern photographers still choose to embrace the 170-year-old process.

    In 2018 there was a Sally Mann show at the National Gallery called A Thousand Crossings. It is by far my favorite show I’ve ever seen since I've been in DC and, in fact, I went back to see it about a half-dozen times. While I love her entire body of work, it was the wet plate work—both plates and prints—that I found myself gravitating to the most. Far from the pristine edge-to-edge sharpness of modern photos, they exude life, inexorably binding them to the maker.

    A couple weeks ago, I got an email form Shane Balkowitsch, a wet plate photographer from Bismarck, North Dakota who began shooting wet plate after seeing a plate of a motorcycle. Something about it refused to let go and he reached out to the photographer to ask about the image and the process behind it. 45 days later, he made his first wet plate—an image of his brother. That was 2012. Today, more than 3500 plates later, Shane’s work is in collections including the State Historical Society of North Dakota and the National Portrait Gallery. His ongoing project photographing Native Americans and helping to preserve their culture has earned him the name “Shadow Catcher.”


    Connect with Shane: Website | Instagram | Facebook

    Northern Plains Native Americans: A Modern Wet Plate Perspective 

    Balkowitsch (Documentary)

    State Historical Society of North Dakota - https://www.history.nd.gov/archives/manuscripts/inventory/2014-P-025.html

    Awake: A Dream from Standing Rock: https://www.awakethefilm.org/

    Sally Mann: A Thousand Crossings - https://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/2018/sally-mann-a-thousand-crossings.html


    Music in this episode: Please Listen Carefully (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0


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    • 1 hr 31 min
    Process Driven 33: Lisa Pressman

    Process Driven 33: Lisa Pressman


    As much as I love working with acrylics in my paintings, because many of them are literally dozens of layers of pigment, collage, found objects, and thick layers of acrylic medium, it can take weeks to finish a single piece just waiting for layers to dry. A few years ago, I began looking into using encaustic, which offers the ability to create work with a similar aesthetic to my acrylic work in a fraction of the time. In doing the research, I came across the work of Lisa Pressman. Lisa is a fabulous artist from New Jersey who works in both encaustic and oils and has been exhibiting her work for nearly four decades. In addition to making her own work, she inspires others to start their own artistic journey through her workshops and one on one mentoring. Lisa and I have spoken a few times and I’m so grateful that we were finally able to hit the record button.


    Elizabeth Murray: https://elizabethmurrayart.org

    Ross Bleckner: https://rbleckner.com/

    Susan Rothberg: https://www.artsy.net/artist/susan-rothenberg

    Gregory Amenoff: http://www.gregoryamenoff.com

    Terry Winters: https://www.terrywinters.org

    Philip Guston: https://www.wikiart.org/en/philip-guston

    Joan Mitchell: https://www.wikiart.org/en/joan-mitchell

    Jake Berthot: http://www.bettycuninghamgallery.com/artists/estate-of-jake-berthot-1939-2014

    James Marshall: https://www.moca.org/exhibition/kerry-james-marshall-mastry

    Hans Hofmann: https://www.hanshofmann.org

    Alice Neel: http://www.aliceneel.com/

    Pretty much the best book out there for working with oils and cold wax: Cold Wax Medium: Techniques, Concepts & Conversations*

    Connect with Lisa: Website | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook

    Music in this episode: Please Listen Carefully (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0



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    • 53 min
    Process Driven 32: Karl Taylor

    Process Driven 32: Karl Taylor

    "Light is almost like some sort of magical quantity that I get to work with — and I'm fascinated by it."

    This might be one of the most process-driven episodes of Process Driven yet. I’ve known Karl Taylor for more than a decade. I was introduced to his work by my friend Patrick in the form of a DVD of Karl‘s Photography Master Class. What struck me straight away was Karl‘s enthusiasm for photography – that and his encyclopedic knowledge of the medium. 12 years after its initial release, Karl has created a brand new remastered version of his original introduction to photography built on a decade of learning and refining what was already an incredible understanding of both the art and science of photography. In this conversation we talk about some of the things he’s learned over the past 10 years, including a deep dive into the biology of how we see and process images.

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    Tim Flach: https://timflach.com/


    Website: https://karltaylor.com

    Platform: https://karltayloreducation.com

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/karltaylorphotography


    Music in this episode: Please Listen Carefully (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0

    • 1 hr 6 min

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