225 episodes

Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Zapier’s CMO), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.

Marketing Against The Grain HubSpot Podcast Network

    • Business
    • 4.8 • 23 Ratings

Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Zapier’s CMO), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.

    I Created An Ai Email Course Using ChatGPT

    I Created An Ai Email Course Using ChatGPT

    Ep. 220
    Will Ai automate 95% of a marketer's role?

    A solo Kieran dives into why he created an Ai email course and why it’s so important to have a passion for marketing. Learn more about creating Ai-driven content, utilizing persuasion techniques to elevate campaigns, and testing the effectiveness of Ai in real marketing projects using Kieran’s course. 

    Link to Kieran’s course: https://bit.ly/timeless-marketing-ai

    Mentions

    Claude https://claude.ai/


    Sam Altman https://twitter.com/sama


    Delphi https://www.delphi.ai/


    Grammarly https://www.grammarly.com/



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    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:
    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  
    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    • 34 min
    Why Google Is NOT Dead & How To Dominate Ai-Driven Search ft. Ethan Smith

    Why Google Is NOT Dead & How To Dominate Ai-Driven Search ft. Ethan Smith

    Ep. 219
    Is Google really at risk of becoming obsolete in the age of AI-driven search? Ethan Smith’s answer may surprise you.

    Kipp, Kieran and Ethan Smith (Graphite) dive into the Ai revolution and its impact on search marketing and SEO practices. Learn more about the adaptability of Google's Adwords model in the Ai era, and the tactics for dominating Ai-driven search through strategic content creation.

    Mentions

    Graphite https://graphite.io/


    Quora https://www.quora.com/


    Google AdWords https://ads.google.com/



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    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:
    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  
    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    • 47 min
    Do You Even NEED A Website?

    Do You Even NEED A Website?

    Ep 218
    Is your website an outdated relic or your best salesperson?

    Kipp and Kieran dive into the future role of websites in an AI-driven marketing world. Learn more on if the traditional website still holds its value, the blending of AI into customer service, and the essential strategies for keeping your site relevant in a rapidly changing digital landscape. 

    Mentions

    Forbes CMO Network https://www.forbes.com/cmo-network/


    Character.Ai https://character.ai/


    Delphi.Ai https://www.delphi.ai/browse



    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
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    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:
    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  
    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    • 39 min
    Everything You Need To Know To Grow A Startup In 2024 w/ Jason Lemkin

    Everything You Need To Know To Grow A Startup In 2024 w/ Jason Lemkin

    Ep. 217
    Are marketing budgets going to go up? Is product marketing a waste of time? 

    Kipp and Kieran with guest Jason Lemkin (CEO of SaaStr) dive into brand marketing. Learn more on leveraging AI and product-led growth for market dominance, the critical impact of early results in a sales cycle for gauging success, and the nuanced art of aligning marketing strategies with your company's unique DNA for unbeatable brand resonance..

    Mentions

    SaaStr https://www.saastr.com/


    Owner.com https://www.owner.com/


    Opus Clip https://www.opus.pro/


    Intuit https://www.intuit.com/



    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:
    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  
    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    • 52 min
    SEO Is Dead… 5 Ways To Save Your Business In 2024

    SEO Is Dead… 5 Ways To Save Your Business In 2024

    Ep. 216
    Is Google search traffic in decline?

    Kipp and Kieran dive into the possible replacements for Google search and what you can do if you rely on Google. Learn more on navigating post-SEO marketing strategies, leveraging B2B creators, and adapting to the AI revolution that's rewriting the rules of digital traffic and content creation.

    Mentions

    Ahrefs https://ahrefs.com/


    Semrush https://www.semrush.com/


    Moz https://moz.com/



    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:
    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  
    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    • 43 min
    Matt Wolfe Ranks The Best AI Tools For Marketers In 2024

    Matt Wolfe Ranks The Best AI Tools For Marketers In 2024

    Ep. 215
    What are the hottest and most important Ai apps to use in your marketing today?

    Kipp and guest Matt Wolfe (entrepreneur and YouTuber) dive into the intricate world of AI marketing tools, exploring what it means to effectively integrate AI into your toolkit. Learn more about how Hume can decipher the subtleties of human emotion, the creative potential of using Suno for song creation, and the practical uses of both Recraft  and Ideogram for crafting compelling marketing visuals.
    Check out Matt's new podcast The Next Wave here: https://link.chtbl.com/uqnVaUip
    Mentions

    Hume https://www.hume.ai/


    Suno https://www.suno.ai/


    Recraft https://www.recraft.ai/


    Ideogram https://ideogram.ai/



    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:
    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  
    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    • 38 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
23 Ratings

23 Ratings

Rakky_ ,

Super fun and interesting for all Marketing People

If you work in Marketing, this podcast is a must! Lovely to hear what’s happening in the world of marketing from such great industry leaders. Highly recommended!

amandacorse ,

Just loved it!

HubSpot isn’t only a great company, it has also brought so many good contents and great team to support with the growth. The episodes are just great!

Great content and insights! ,

Great insights!

Amazing podcast!

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