11 episodes

Say goodbye to tired market takes and superficial sound bites. Because here, instead of skimming the surface, we dive into the heart of capital allocation — striking the perfect balance and exposing the subtleties that reveal the topic’s true essence.

Prepare to have your perspectives challenged as we open up the issues that resonate with the hearts and minds of those shaping asset management.

Capital Decanted John Bowman and Christie Hamilton

    • Business

Say goodbye to tired market takes and superficial sound bites. Because here, instead of skimming the surface, we dive into the heart of capital allocation — striking the perfect balance and exposing the subtleties that reveal the topic’s true essence.

Prepare to have your perspectives challenged as we open up the issues that resonate with the hearts and minds of those shaping asset management.

    Episode 11: Private Credit: Does this Decade Long Torrent need some Spring Cleaning? with Katie Koch and Kipp DeVeer

    Episode 11: Private Credit: Does this Decade Long Torrent need some Spring Cleaning? with Katie Koch and Kipp DeVeer

    Private Credit has risen from obscurity within the private equity financing world to a greater than $2T asset class in just over a decade.  In this episode, we examine the conditions (M&A, debankification, regulation, staying private longer) that accelerated post the GFC that created a torrent of issuance and demand for private credit across direct lending, asset backed credit, structured credit, and innovative special situations.  And more importantly, we debate whether we’ve come a little too far, too fast, and if some rationalization and refining is needed before this exciting space continues its upward trajectory.

    Guests:

    Katie Koch, CEO, TCW

    Kipp DeVeer, Partner and Head of Credit, Ares Management


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    • 1 hr 44 min
    Episode 10: GP Stakes - A Purer Alignment for LPs/GPs or Unnecessary Distraction? with Sean Ward and Shawn Ury

    Episode 10: GP Stakes - A Purer Alignment for LPs/GPs or Unnecessary Distraction? with Sean Ward and Shawn Ury

    Permanent Capital or GP Stakes structures aim to take further advantage of long-dated patient capital in private markets. Furthermore, they allow the LP to participate in additional cash flow streams with the GP that are elusive in a traditional fund structure. In other words, it allows LPs to get exposure to a variety of alternative asset managers as minority owners in the GPs themselves. But does this provide a purer incentive alignment of investors and GPs or simply split allegiance and attention between multiple masters?  In this episode, with the help of the largest GP Stakes participant, Blue Owl, and a large LP in their fund, USAA, we examine the evolution of the approach, its idiosyncratic and multi-faceted return stream, and try to honestly assess some of the myths that haunt the space.



    Guests:


    Sean Ward, Senior Managing Director, GP Strategic Capital Platform, Blue Owl
    Shawn Ury, CAIA, Executive Director and Head of Alts, USAA

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    • 1 hr 37 min
    Episode 9: Total Portfolio Approach: An Unexpected Journey with Ben Samild and Jayne Bok

    Episode 9: Total Portfolio Approach: An Unexpected Journey with Ben Samild and Jayne Bok

    Since the arrival of Modern Portfolio Theory (MPT) in the early 1950’s by the legendary Harry Markowitz, the industry has been sturdily anchored to this philosophy and all of it’s artifacts when constructing portfolios. In recent years, however, an enterprising handful of large institutional asset owners have begun challenging the common wisdom of a strategic asset allocation approach given it tends to breed silo behavior, unhealthy competition for resources and attention, unrecognized duplication or disjointed risk exposure across the portfolio, and difficulty in managing the capital pool holistically around a view of the future. This is the story of how CAIA convened some of the most reputable and largest asset owners in the world to amplify the benefits of TPA and perhaps, the beginning of a new era.



    Guests:


    Ben Samild, Chief Investment Officer, Future Fund


    Jayne Bok, CFA, CAIA, Head of Investments, Asia, Willis Towers Watson



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    • 1 hr 41 min
    Episode 8: OCIO: The Phoenix that Keeps Rising with Mark Anson and Sarah Samuels

    Episode 8: OCIO: The Phoenix that Keeps Rising with Mark Anson and Sarah Samuels

    The Outsourced Chief Investment Officer—once a last resort option for sub-scale capital pools looking to avoid the hassle and cost of building their own investment office to today, a multi-trillion dollar subset of the asset management profession and arguably the hottest structural trend in the industry. Take a listen while we examine:


    What insights and opportunities led to the creation of this segment of organizations and why has that exploded in the ensuing four decades? 
    What defines a successful OCIO? And why has that trajectory and evolution seemingly reached an inflection point—hyperdrive really-- in the last five years that has redefined the space and encouraged newer, larger entrants?



    Guests:


    Mark Anson, CAIA, CFA;  CEO, President and CIO, Commonfund


    Sarah Samuels, CAIA, CFA: Partner, NEPC



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    • 1 hr 26 min
    Episode 7: A New Global Order: Integrating Geopolitics with Anastasia Titarchuk and Marko Papic

    Episode 7: A New Global Order: Integrating Geopolitics with Anastasia Titarchuk and Marko Papic

    After a four decade relative period of global stability, the world order has fractured and grown more unpredictable. The new multi-polar reality poses a major problem for leaders and investors as our traditional guardrails, narratives, and structures seem less useful. How should an investor integrate geopolitical trends into their investment thesis and what pitfalls and common mistakes should we watch out for?

    Guests:

    Anastasia Titarchuk, CIO, New York State Common Retirement Fund

    Marko Papic, Partner, Clocktower Group

    • 1 hr 39 min
    Episode 6: Private Market Regulation: Overreach or Overdue? With Jen Choi and Jon Grabel

    Episode 6: Private Market Regulation: Overreach or Overdue? With Jen Choi and Jon Grabel

    In order for the capital markets system to continually grow in its transparency, efficiency and fairness, it needs a combination of free market ingenuity and regulatory protection. With the meteoric rise and importance of alternative investments in the past decade, did the SEC strike that balance correctly with the new Private Advisors Rule? Directionally, probably yes but certainly the details are far from perfect and unintended consequences are inevitable. With an aim to provide a practical guide for the layman practitioner, we explore the history of light touch regulation of private funds, highlight the important elements and implications of the rule, and explain why CAIA joined ILPA and many asset owners in submitting an Amicus Brief to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals defending the spirit of the rule.

    Guests:
    Jen Choi, CEO, ILPA
    Jon Grabel, CIO, Lacera



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    • 1 hr 49 min

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