9 episodes

The Lawyering Podcast by Emma Fitzgerald, director of Lawyering Space is an inquisitive podcast dedicated to Lawyers. Its aim is twofold: to inspire lawyers and law firms alike, and to celebrate the good and stimulate change for the better of the profession.

Emma has wanted to be a lawyer since she was just 12 years old. 20 years later, does the career of law live up to the dream? What does it take? And what could the profession be doing better: for us as stressed out, time-poor lawyers, and those in the community that rely on us to ensure the adequacy of the rule of law and access to the legal system.

Emma shares some of her own stories and experiences as both lawyer, and consumer of legal services, with honesty and vulnerability.

She chats to some interesting and inspiring lawyers and other professionals that can assist us to be the best, and healthiest, profession possible.

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The Lawyering Podcast by Emma Fitzgerald, director of Lawyering Space is an inquisitive podcast dedicated to Lawyers. Its aim is twofold: to inspire lawyers and law firms alike, and to celebrate the good and stimulate change for the better of the profession.

Emma has wanted to be a lawyer since she was just 12 years old. 20 years later, does the career of law live up to the dream? What does it take? And what could the profession be doing better: for us as stressed out, time-poor lawyers, and those in the community that rely on us to ensure the adequacy of the rule of law and access to the legal system.

Emma shares some of her own stories and experiences as both lawyer, and consumer of legal services, with honesty and vulnerability.

She chats to some interesting and inspiring lawyers and other professionals that can assist us to be the best, and healthiest, profession possible.

    The Power of Coaching with Katie Gray

    The Power of Coaching with Katie Gray

    In this episode of The Lawyering Podcast, we have the opportunity to hear from Katie Gray. Katie is the founder of Principals of Practice, a professional development and executive coaching service, based in New Zealand. 
    While applying for a position within her own firm, Katie engaged a coach. This experience changed her perspective of leadership in the law, so much so that she is now a coach herself. 
    In this episode we talk about:
    Katie started her career as a banking and finance lawyer and fell in love with law.  During her successful 16 year career with Herbert Smith Freehills, Katie led teams and advised on complex financing transactions, all while working across three different continents.  Working long hours in the international finance sector Katie started her family. While on maternity leave Katie realised her passion for law and leadership. During a training program to make partner, Katie discovered some surprising habits which she was not aware of. Her leadership training showed the value of self-evaluation and changing your approach to leadership.  While applying for Partner, Katie engaged a Coach and the experience helped so much that she eventually decided to step out on her own and starting a coaching business. Katie now coaches’ lawyers in career progression and change in their careers though “Principals of Practice”.  Katie sees her role in coaching as the “railing allowing others to walk along their own path” In her sessions, Katie encourages lawyers to question some of the beliefs they have held over their careers.  Knowing when a coach could push you to the next level in your career. Ask yourself ‘What is getting in the way of taking ownership in my career?’ and action these items.   
    Sit back and enjoy this helpful interview with Katie Gray. 
     
    Links:
    Connect with Katie Gray
    Principals of Practice 
     

    • 30 min
    Lawyer by qualification but an advocate by choice with Sheetal Deo

    Lawyer by qualification but an advocate by choice with Sheetal Deo

    In this episode of The Lawyering Podcast, we had the opportunity to hear from Sheetal Deo. She wears many hats and I am excited to share with you all that she is doing for the legal community. 

    In this episode we talk about:
    Sheetal’s Family history and how she has been influenced by her culture. How Sheetal made her way into the law overseas. The Bond University Alumni and Sheetal’s experience of attending university. Sheetal’s obvious, but un-expected passion for conveyancing, wills and estates. Sheetal is the Relationship Manager for QLS where she works with the next generation of lawyers. Her work starting Ethnic+, and the goals of this organisation. Learning how to be a better ally through Ethnic+.  Sheetal has her own low-bono law firm, Shakti Legal Solutions. How she manages her time, after starting Ethnic+ and Shakti Legal Solutions, at the beginning of 2020. Sheetal has anxiety and sees a psychologist regularly. Sheetal has seen how to open conversations bring light to the darkness. Sit back and enjoy this helpful interview with Sheetal Deo. 

    Links:
    Contact Sheetal Deo on LinkedIn
    Shakti Legal Solutions
    Coffee Conversations with Sheetal Deo through QLS
    Ethnic Plus

    • 39 min
    Sitting in discomfort to end racism with Emma Fitzgerald.

    Sitting in discomfort to end racism with Emma Fitzgerald.

    In this episode of The Lawyering Podcast, I discuss the difficult and uncomfortable topic of racism. 
    In this episode I talk about:
    I discuss why the topic of racism is uncomfortable, and why we need to be uncomfortable to spark change.  I am bi-racial but white passing which has come with its challenges but also privileges.  The impact of microaggressions and unintentional racial comments. My childhood experience of racism. My mother was born in Pakistan and is also Indian. My Father is part Irish and we learnt that he has Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander heritage which was hidden in his family’s past. My paternal grandmother’s traumatic life being sent away from her family and the impacts: intergenerational trauma. My own struggle to become accepted. The silence in my own education in regards to the aboriginal massacres which took place in Australia. As lawyers, we are part of the system that has perpetuated racism, and have a responsibility to make change. We all need to listen and learn about the true history of Australia. As lawyers, we are in a position that allows us to be part of the change. Sit back, listen and learn as I share my own journey of racism, both internalised and from others.

    Links:
    Lorena Alam, The killing times: the massacres of Aboriginal people Australia must confront,  

    • 20 min
    Research a mentor who shares your values with Kate Clark and Tanisha Watts.

    Research a mentor who shares your values with Kate Clark and Tanisha Watts.

    In this episode of The Lawyering Podcast, we had the opportunity to hear from Kate Clark and Tanisha Watt, a mentoring pair from Clark Mediation.
    In this episode we talk about:
    Giving back to the legal community by becoming a mentor. Kate’s recent webinars on topics such as health and welling, training your brain and leadership. Upcoming projects for Kate.
    Instilling a sense of hope and focusing on goals is Kate’s philosophy at Clark Mediation. Tanisha shares how she connected with, and chose, Kate Clark. Tanisha is completing her PLT with Kate and started right before the pandemic. The letter from Tanisha caught the attention of Kate. Tanisha’s advice for students looking for a mentor. The importance of researching a mentor who shares your values. Kate’s advice to students starting out in the law. The graduate pressure of the ‘first job’ being the ‘right job’. Kate’s dream for the future of the law as a profession. The disparity between men and women in law. The co-learning benefits that can come from a mentoring relationship.
      Sit back and enjoy this helpful interview with Kate and Tanisha.  
     
    Links:
    Clark Mediation
    Connect with Kate
    Connect with Tanisha
     

    • 30 min
    Mentoring, Courage and Connection in the law with Janelle Osborne

    Mentoring, Courage and Connection in the law with Janelle Osborne

    In this episode of The Lawyering Podcast, we had the opportunity to hear from Janelle Osborne from Insight family law and Mediation. 
    In this episode we talk about:
    Janelle’s perspective on the COVID-19 but with a positive spin. Janelle explains the grief and shock we may experience due to the pandemic. Janelle has started her own firm, Insight Family Law and Mediation, and is enjoying the level of control she now has to help others. Janelle’s Nanna lived in the time of war and shares a story about stockings. The positives that come out of difficult times. Changes Janelle has noticed during this time in the legal profession. Improved efficiencies for clients and streamlining the court process. Janelle conducts mediations, is a family lawyer, parenting co-ordinator and now mentor. The value of mentoring relationships. Janelle’s tips for finding a mentor and having the courage to ask them to share with you.  
    Sit back and enjoy this helpful interview with Janelle Osborne
     
    Links:
    Insight family law and Mediation Facebook
    Contact Janelle on LinkedIn

    • 18 min
    Seeking opportunity in the midst of hardship with Carly Stebbing

    Seeking opportunity in the midst of hardship with Carly Stebbing

    In this episode of The Lawyering Podcast, we had the opportunity to hear from Carly Stebbing from Resolution 123. As an employment lawyer, Carly has some great insights on how to turn this time of difficulty into one of opportunity.
    In this episode we talk about:
    The positive effects from the difficulties being faced by the world at the moment Carly’s insights on the future of law  Why changing your behaviour to please others in the law can be dangerous Carly’s advice to her younger self The importance of curiosity in law and why we should seek answers to our questions Carly’s previous mentors and supporters  Carly has a great amount of self-confidence and discusses her relationship with doubt Her experience of sex discrimination in the workplace Carly’s advice for those who are struggling with their careers at the moment  The future of law and innovation in the profession 2017 Flip report  Carly’s tips for upskilling and learning while unemployed Sit back and enjoy this helpful interview with Carly Stebbing. 
    Links:
    Resolution 123
    2017 FLIP report
     

    • 19 min

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