42 episodes

The Founder's Foyer with Aishwarya Ashok is full of hallway conversations—the space where early-stage founders, builders, and creators look for all the foundational concepts and support to grow their ideas into products.

Follow this show for all things Product, Ideas, Growth.

The Founder's Foyer with Aishwarya Ashok The Founder's Foyer

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The Founder's Foyer with Aishwarya Ashok is full of hallway conversations—the space where early-stage founders, builders, and creators look for all the foundational concepts and support to grow their ideas into products.

Follow this show for all things Product, Ideas, Growth.

    #42 Taste, intuition & rigorous thinking for building products ft. Wes Kao (Co-Founder, Maven & AltMBA)

    #42 Taste, intuition & rigorous thinking for building products ft. Wes Kao (Co-Founder, Maven & AltMBA)

    00:00 Introduction to Founders Foyer

    01:40 The Magic of Learnable Skills

    05:45 Building Alt MBA: The Experiment

    08:57 The Rise of Live Learning with Maven

    17:14 Intuition vs. Rigorous Thinking

    30:39 The Importance of Deep Reflection

    31:32 Balancing Immediate Action with Thoughtful Planning

    32:54 Understanding and Developing Taste

    38:22 Communicating Taste and Quality

    45:30 Managing Ego in Collaborative Work

    48:12 The Power of Super Specific Hows

    54:08 Practical Applications of Super Specific Hows



    Building hype for your ideas, leading the vision, and setting clarity on how to execute on plans are definitely things that we as product builders and creative minds want to get better at. Thinking becomes a great part of this and learning to observe intensely and being able to articulate thoughts are the result of great thinking. So how to communicate and work in a way that’s positive-sum and leveraging?



    Wes Kao is an entrepreneur, marketer, coach, and advisor who writes at newsletter.weskao.com. She is co-founder of Maven, an edtech company that raised $25M from First Round and Andreessen Horowitz. Previously, she co-founded altMBA with bestselling author Seth Godin. Wes’ essays are deep reads that help you vividly experience the ‘how’ rather than merely stating points.



    In this episode, Wes and Aishwarya chat about co-founding Alt MBA with Seth Godin to Wes' current role at Maven, differences between lazy and rigorous thinking, and actionable insights on turning 'Je ne sais quoi' into an executable framework. Tune in!

    • 59 min
    #41 Ideas to product—navigating the founding journey ft. Sharath Kuruganty (Founder, Guestlab.ai, Podcaster)

    #41 Ideas to product—navigating the founding journey ft. Sharath Kuruganty (Founder, Guestlab.ai, Podcaster)

    00:00 Meet Sharath Kuruganty: The Creative Builder

    01:26 Sharath’s Journey into the Creative Space

    02:32 Building Muscle: The Key to Founding Success

    03:38 Importance of Community in the Creative Process

    08:50 ‘Commitment and the No Excuses’ Mindset

    14:36 Balancing Creativity and Mistakes

    26:00 Power of Sharing and Building in Public

    28:59 Understanding Public Accountability

    30:14 Qualifying Questions for Self-Reflection

    31:46 Managing Self-Doubt as a Founder

    34:44 Journaling and Gratitude

    38:34 Exploring the Podcasting Landscape

    51:03 Giving Back as a Founder



    How is it to have ideas constantly bustling inside your mind? The creative spirit is the one that’s so effervescent—one day you want to kickstart a new project and just by the evening, you want to build another idea out. Navigating this path of building things for fun, also aligned with monetization and community goals is definitely a huge challenge. How to get going with this?



    Sharath Kuruganty is a seasoned creative builder who loves exploring ideas, shipping things quickly, and iterating and learning from feedback. Sharath’s experiences go so wide—from helping creators launch stuff at Product Hunt, to growing communities with OnDeck, interviewing underdogs on his podcast, and building out products like shoutout.so, GuestLab.ai, he’s a complete creator-product package.



    In this episode, Sharath shares personal anecdotes and practical tips for aspiring founders and creators on staying committed, managing self-doubt, and leveraging the growing podcast space.

    • 53 min
    #40 How to use our mind & AI: writing, building apps, creating a business ft. Dan Shipper (Founder, Every | Builder | Podcaster)

    #40 How to use our mind & AI: writing, building apps, creating a business ft. Dan Shipper (Founder, Every | Builder | Podcaster)

    00:00 Introducing Dan Shipper & Every

    02:45 The Philosophy of Building: Reflecting on Identity and Creation

    07:37 Dan's Journey: From Tech Founder to Embracing Writing and AI

    15:05 Leveraging AI for Creativity and Efficiency in Media

    21:35 Reimagining Reading: How AI Enhances the Experience

    25:32 Exploring AI's Personalization and Future Potential

    28:18 The Evolution of AI: From Sidekick to Personal Assistant

    32:45 AI's Role in Content Creation

    35:43 Navigating Self-Doubt and Creative Consistency

    42:41 The Influence of 70’s Aesthetics on Creativity

    46:34 Physical Inspirations in a Digital Age

    49:39 Reflecting on AI, Emotion, and Artistic Expression





    To think and to create are by far the most satisfying part of work for all of us. As new technologies come in, the crux we keep getting closer to is thinking clearly and creating more frequently. AI has made this process not just upleveled in speed but also introduced a side-kick approach. How to incorporate AI and still build our unique taste? What’s it like to ride with AI and find more individuality with the creative projects and businesses that we build?



    Dan Shipper is the co-founder of Every, a creative media company that works to make you smarter about technology, productivity, and AI, trusted by almost 70k builders. Dan is a writer, thinker, podcaster, builder behind an AI chatbot, and his current work is filled with playing around with AI and shipping related projects.



    In this chat, Dan and Aishwarya discuss the transformative impact of AI on creativity, the process of building unique projects, and intertwining personal growth with professional work. Dan elaborates on a recent AI project (internal to Every), Spiral, designed to convert content into different formats effectively, providing insights into his reading habits with AI's assistance.

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    #39 Behavioral science to launch products & understand users ft. Kristen Berman, Founder of Irrational Labs

    #39 Behavioral science to launch products & understand users ft. Kristen Berman, Founder of Irrational Labs

    00:00 Intro to Kristen Berman 

    01:21 The Genesis of Irrational Labs & Power of Behavioral Economics

    02:45 Unlocking User Insights: The Shift in Customer Interviews 

    05:00 The Art of Designing Effective Incentives & Understanding User Behavior

    11:26 Empty Text Boxes to User Empowerment: ChatGPT as an example

    13:07 Overcoming Barriers: Making Products More Accessible 

    19:42 B2B—Understanding Consumer vs. Business Decision-Making

    24:27 Product-Led Growth: Strategies and Challenges

    25:09 Simplifying B2B User Experiences: A Key to Adoption

    26:20 Customer Feedback vs. Actual Behavior: Navigating the Bias

    27:17 Case Studies & Learning from Failures

    37:41 The Power of Environment in Shaping User Behavior

    42:36 Embracing AI: Behavioral Economics in the New Decade

    49:23 Concluding Thoughts on Behavioral Science in Product Design



    Getting feedback and listening to what customers have got to tell us has been the favorite part for all of us product folks. Whether it’s a new app, feature, or even a little shiny interaction, we love getting validation from our audience. We’re in the constant exploration of how best to solve our users’ problems and jumping in as the demi-gods they’d see. But wait, how do we know what exactly goes on in our users’ minds? Like literally brain-reading them.

    Kristen Berman is the CEO and co-founder of Irrational Labs, a behavioral product design firm. She helps companies like Google, Airbnb, PayPal, Microsoft, and LinkedIn improve their products and services through behavioral design research. Yes yes, the one where she helps builders and founders design, test and scale products by learning behavioral economics. Kristen’s work has been featured in The Stanford Innovation Review, TechCrunch, and Scientific American.



    Kristen shares her experiences working with tech companies and highlights how behavioral design research aids in creating products that truly resonate with users. She touched upon the evolution of AI tools like ChatGPT and its impact on user experience, psychology of nudging, overcoming biases, and the role of behavioral economics in a new AI-driven era.

    • 49 min
    #38 The creative craft ft. AI, humor & product | Peter Yang (Founder, Creator Economy & Product Lead)

    #38 The creative craft ft. AI, humor & product | Peter Yang (Founder, Creator Economy & Product Lead)

    00:00 Intro to Peter Yang and Creator Economy

    01:21 The Intersection of Product and Creative Tracks

    05:14 Finding Your Zone of Genius

    12:34 How to Use Humor in Communication

    18:30 Defining Success in the Creator Economy

    22:04 Crafting Creative Journeys

    22:34 Learning from Fellow Creators

    23:56 Avoiding Analysis Paralysis

    24:22 Packaging Value in Your Work

    25:16 Discovering Your Unique Path

    26:36 The Importance of Energy in Your Work

    27:04 Maximizing Content Creation Efforts

    29:49 The Pressure to Become the Next Best Someone

    32:50 Building Your Personal Brand

    38:42 Exploring AI Experiments with Custom GPTs

    42:42 Wrapup



    If you are a deep thinker, you naturally enjoy the intersection of creating something and seeing it come alive just as you build. The journey of a product builder and creator cross paths—because it’s all about finding an audience and shipping projects that resonate with both you and them. So how do you set foot to build a business around something that you’re proud of creating? How to look at creation as a craft and channelize it with the way the tech world evolves?

    Peter Yang has spent more than a decade leading product teams at Meta, Amazon, Reddit, and Roblox. He runs a newsletter community called Creator Economy with over 70k+ folks supporting his work. Peter enjoys sharing tips and humor about how to level up your product and creator skills.

    Peter shares insights from his journey, exploring how creators can leverage their unique skills and interests to carve out niches in the creator economy. From blending humor in content to the transformative impact of AI on personal productivity and the significance of building with a customer-focused mindset—there’s valuable takeaways for anyone looking to make their mark in the creative and product spaces.
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    • 43 min
    #37 Mountain climbing to product building—Endurance, Empathy & Rituals ft. Lane Shackleton (CPO, Coda | Athlete)

    #37 Mountain climbing to product building—Endurance, Empathy & Rituals ft. Lane Shackleton (CPO, Coda | Athlete)

    00:00 Introduction to Lane

    01:14 Lane's Nonlinear Career Path

    04:09 How Endurance Helps With Success

    12:51 Importance of Mindset in Product Building

    23:19 Power of Shipping and Learning by Making

    26:49 The Origin of the 'Rituals' Concept

    29:03 Offer Parties: Gusto’s Ritual with Job Offers

    29:51 Transforming Status Quo Rituals

    30:58 Impact of Feedback in Product Development

    33:01 Influence of French Literary Salons

    37:46 Authenticity and Serendipity in Community Building

    43:44 Creative People and Connections

    46:14 The Ritual Pack: Enhancing Team Meetings and Decision Making

    58:01 Intentionality in Building Culture



    Everyone’s got an interesting journey into crafting their product careers—the best part is to embrace all of our facets and dimensions and see how to bring them into one picture. And over time, that translates to exploring habits that help us stay in those dimensions and keep learning, not just from our own work but from networks around us. How to channelize these non-linear paths, find rituals, and focus on growth while building products?Lane Shackleton is the CPO of Coda. Lane previously led product teams at YouTube and Google, and brings in a set of unique work experiences from before. Lane works with so many creators across the globe and digs deep into empathy, goal setting, and stories.In this episode of The Founder's Foyer, Aishwarya and Lane delve into the concept of product rituals and the importance of habits in fostering product growth. Lane shares insights from his nonlinear career path, his approach towards leadership, the significance of enduring pain, and the role of mindfulness in product development. He highlights the significance of mental models, the role of serendipity, and the importance of maintaining authenticity in community engagement

    • 59 min

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