The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill Michael Mogill

The real game changers aren’t just the ones who talk a good game — they’re the ones who take decisive action and make a tangible impact in their communities and with their clients.

If your team isn’t genuinely committed to doing the right thing every single time…

you’re on a fast track to mediocrity and missed opportunities.

Eric Chaffin, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Chaffin Luhana, knows this all too well. 

His firm has achieved over $1B in verdicts and settlements because they live and breathe their motto, “Doing Good By Doing Right.” 

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Eric and Michael Mogill sit down to discuss:

The origin and power of the firm’s guiding principle

The critical need for a team that fully embraces and believes in your firm’s vision

Why empathy is the secret weapon that separates great trial attorneys from the merely good ones



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Show Notes:

02:35 – Eric Chaffin's Early Life and Influences
03:16 – Overcoming Trauma and Finding Purpose
04:46 – Educational Journey and Early Career
05:12 – Lessons from Running a Pizza Shop
06:21 – Law School and Early Legal Career
08:10 – Corporate Defense to Federal Prosecutor
11:58 – Starting a Law Firm with Aligned Values
16:53 – A Call for Compassion
17:45 – The Lure of Mass Torts
19:33 – Client Experience Focus
22:12 – Community Engagement
24:05 – Endurance Sports Journey
29:34 – Defining Success and Overcoming Challenges
31:26 – Future of the Legal Profession
33:13 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Eric Chaffin


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Links & Resources

West Virginia University

Chaffin Luhana, LLP

Crisp

Najee Harris

Black Lives Matter

MeToo Movement


The Magic of Thinking Big by David J. Schwartz


Giftology by John Ruhlin

Ironman Triathlon


Peloton 


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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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In this cutthroat legal market, relying on a single way to get new clients, such as referrals or pay-per-client advertising, won't cut it. 

Firms that dominate their market have mastered the art of brand differentiation and community presence. 

If you want your practice to become the obvious choice for clients in need, you have to have a robust marketing strategy that consistently puts your law firm’s name in front of your ideal clients.

In Episode 271 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill delve into the essence of how you can build a bullet-proof brand. 

If you're not actively setting your firm apart, you're not just blending in — you're fading into obscurity.

Tune in to learn how to make your brand unforgettable.


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Show Notes:

02:52 – How to get your question answered on an episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast
04:13 – How to create a brand identity that stands out from the competition
07:12 – How to craft a unique value proposition to connect with your ideal clients
10:15 – How to build a client-service-focused brand identity
12:38 – How to create content that showcases your commitment to your clients and community
14:30 – How to build a personal brand and establish yourself as a legal thought leader
17:06 – Why you will never become an authority overnight

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Links & Resources


The Game Changing Attorney by Michael Mogill

LinkedIn

Taylor Swift

Facebook

Instagram

TikTok

YouTube

Timothée Chalamet

Timothée Chalamet’s YouTube Channel (@ModdedController360)

Joe Fried

David Craig


After the Crash Podcast 


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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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What if you could consistently predict trial outcomes and secure life-changing verdicts for your clients? 

Sean Claggett has cracked the code. 

By focusing intensely on a few key cases and harnessing the power of big data and focus groups, he’s transformed the trial landscape, winning multiple eight-figure verdicts. 

It’s a formula with a proven record of success — allowing them to win multiple eight-figure and life-changing cases for Sean’s clients.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Sean and Michael Mogill discuss:

The next-level methods to leverage big data for predictable trial verdicts and settlements

The critical importance of leading by example to cultivate an elite trial team

The meticulous preparation tactics that set the most successful trial attorneys apart


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Show Notes:

02:20 – Sean Claggett's Journey to Becoming a Lawyer
05:53 – Growing Up and Moving to Vegas
09:03 – The Vegas Community and Its Resilience
11:17 – Leadership and Work Ethic in Law
14:14 – The Making of a Great Trial Lawyer
19:22 – The Role of Focus Groups in Trial Preparation
23:35 – The Early Struggles and Entrepreneurial Ventures
24:40 – Discovering the System for Success
25:39 – The Turning Point: 2012 and Beyond
28:39 – The Lowe's Case: A Game Changer
29:24 – The Importance of Focus Groups
33:49 – Predicting Verdicts with Data
40:12 – The Emotional Toll of Trial Law
43:32 – The Drive to Make a Difference

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Links & Resources


Rules of the Road by Rick Friedman

David Ball on Damages: A Plaintiff’s Attorney’s Guide to Personal Injury and Wrongful Death Cases

Reptile: The 2009 Manual of the Plaintiff’s Revolution

Challenged Athletes Foundation

Republic Services wrongful death trial


Claggett & Sykes Law Firm 


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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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Imagine a world without women.

It's impossible, right? 

Women are the unsung superheroes in the office, at home, and everywhere in between. Whether it's late nights or early mornings, they relentlessly pursue the respect they deserve — and Jan Dils is leading that charge.

As the owner of the largest female-founded law firm in America, Jan is committed to changing lives with an unwavering sense of responsibility and resilience.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jan delve into:

Turning criticism into growth fuel


Why work-life balance is a myth

Scaling your impact to leave a lasting legacy




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Show Notes:

02:27 – Jan Dils’s origin story
05:03 – How Jan got thrown into the deep end, trying cases the week she graduated from law school
06:38 – What gravitated Jan towards Social Security & Disability law
08:19 – The risks and investments required to run a volume practice
09:19 – Jan’s establishment as a legal advertising trailblazer
10:34 – Creating the legendary jingle: “She won’t take no for an answer”
13:26 – Facing and overcoming sexism in the legal industry
15:18 – Why the State Supreme Court tried to disbar Jan for marketing
18:13 – How Jan Dils expanded her law firm outside of West Virginia
19:00 – Jan’s 15-hour days and the work-life balance myth
22:05 – Jan’s motivation to grow her law firm despite setbacks and sacrifices
23:33 – Facing and overcoming the greatest setback of all: a breast cancer diagnosis
24:49 – How to truly scale a law firm
27:09 – The importance of culture at Jan Dils, Attorneys at Law
29:14 – Jan’s advice to female law firm leaders
31:07 – Jan’s approach to motherhood and definition of success
33:24 – The Better Human Goal
34:08 – What being a game changer means to Jan Dils


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Links & Resources

Jan Dils, Attorneys at Law

Crisp

West Virginia

Jingle

Charleston Gazette


LSAT 


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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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Feeling crushed by life's relentless unpredictability? Brace yourself as we expose the brutal challenges of navigating the unknown and unveil the game changing strategies that will forge unbreakable resilience in the face of chaos.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill are tearing into:

The razor-thin line between possessing all the information and taking decisive, proactive action


The critical techniques to respond with cold, hard logic instead of succumbing to emotional turmoil in high-stakes scenarios

How to dominate uncertainty with unwavering confidence and crystal-clear clarity 



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Show Notes:

01:52 – Michael Mogill’s shout-out to YOU
03:20 – How to get your question answered on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast
05:08 – Risks to consider and prioritize when making critical business decisions in uncertain times
07:45 – Ray Dalio’s philosophies on the expected value equation and probability standpoints
09:55 – Why indecisiveness is weakness
12:11 – How to condition yourself to respond logically rather than reacting emotionally
14:06 – How to focus on what you can control (and accept what you can’t)
17:49 – Why life’s greatest gifts come from experiences of adversity
19:23 – How Michael Mogill approaches uncertainty in his own business
21:56 – How to prepare for a Black Swan event
24:13 – Why investing in preparedness is better than investing in prevention

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Links & Resources

YouTube


Principles by Ray Dalio


Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl


The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod

Black Swan Events


Charlie Munger 


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Think you know how to motivate people? Think again.

Susan Fowler, renowned leadership consultant, and the best-selling author of Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work…and What Does has spent the last two decades refining the application of motivation science in Fortune 50 companies to small organizations in almost every industry imaginable around the world.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Susan will teach you:

Why attempting to motivate people is a losing proposition

The psychological needs that all high-performing team members have

How to create a working environment that enables you and your team to thrive


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Show Notes:

02:51 – Why Susan Fowler wrote Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work… and What Does
04:47 – The real definition of motivation
05:31 – Why attempting to motivate people is a losing proposition, no matter your resources
06:49 – The difference between optimal and sub-optimal motivation
10:19 – Why certain incentives can be the “junk food” of motivation
13:45 – The three psychological needs that all people have (autonomy, relatedness, and competence)
19:39 – The importance of providing choices
22:40 – How to foster the physiological need for connection in a working environment
24:11 – How to determine what your and your team members’ values are
27:46 – What to do when your values as a leader are not aligned with your team members’ values
30:18 – Why all of our values are subject to evolution
31:00 – How to make your team more competent
34:48 – Why asking someone “What motivates you?” is a bad idea
38:22 – Why money does motivate people, but not in the way that you think
43:41 – Why leaders should ask what they want for their people (not just what they want from them)
47:33 – How to overcome “Quiet Quitting” and create an environment where people want to stay
50:44 – What being a game changer means to Susan Fowler

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Links & Resources


Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work… and What Does by Susan Fowler

YouTube

B.F. Skinner

Operant Conditioning


Master Your Motivation: Three Scientific Truths for Achieving Your Goals by Susan Fowler

Self-determination theory

Dr. Edward Deci

Dr. Richard Ryan

IBM

Garry Ridge

Dr. Jacques Forest

Drea Zigarmi

Mark Cuban

Anne Brafford

The Prevalence of Substance Use and Other Mental Health Concerns Among American Attorneys

Binge Drinking by Occupation Groups among Currently Employed U.S. Adults

2022 Report on the State of the Legal Market: Despite a strong year, numerous & growing challenges confront law firms

Institute For Well-Being In Law

McKinsey & Company: Winning back your workers


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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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