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Lead & Follow offers a candid discussion of collaboration, teamwork, training, and organizational development. Host Sharna Fabiano talks with educators, consultants, and professionals to explore the relational dance between leadership and followership, and how to become excellent in both roles.
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Connected Social Conversations – Dan Istrate
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Actor/Director Dan Istrate shares his thoughts on presence, connection, and social leading and following. Dan grew up in Romania and has lived for the past 25 years in the United States. He’s had thousands of both painful and hilarious experiences of language and culture translation and mis-translation, working on both stage and screen in a wide variety of creative collaborations.
Socially, his way of being seems to invite other people to be more open, more brave, more playful, more free. It’s something that’s hard to describe in words but it’s an area of leading and following that we nevertheless experience every single day. It just might transform how you see simple conversations all around you, with friends, at home, with strangers, and even maybe especially on dates. If you’re someone who feels at all anxious about talking to people, or like me feels that they are still recovering from the pandemic, this episode might be especially helpful.
"If you think about the fact that you cannot really influence the way people perceive you–in that idea I find freedom.""We think that the words are the thing, but the thing is the vibration.""The conversation can feel better if it is anchored in the depths of our being." "The most beautiful thing in the world is to connect with another human being."
Episode References
S1 E 15 - Lead/Follow Relationships in Live Theater Performance - Dan Istrate
https://leadfollow.buzzsprout.com/1735834/9621693-lead-follow-relationships-in-live-theater-performance-dan-istrate
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Website: www.danistrate.com
IG: @DanIstrateDC
FB: Dan.Istrate.796
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Power & Influence of Global Followership - Yulia Tolstikov-Mast
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Yulia Tolstikov-Mast, Ph.D. shares the concept of a global follower and especially of global followership as a force of power that can and does influence the far-reaching decisions of global leaders. Yulia is a global leadership and followership expert, an award-winning international leadership scholar, and an educator. Her scholarship and training focus on the internalization of leadership and followership education, non-Western approaches to leadership and followership, global followership and citizenship behaviors, and leader-follower role switching. Her most significant contribution is the Handbook of International and Cross-Cultural Leadership Research Processes. The publication is a guide on conducting international research grounded in local epistemologies. Yulia was also Co-Investigator in Russia for the GLOBE 2020 Research Project.
“The message that was initiated by soccer players and was amplified by the followers, and it started making changes in the world.” “I suggest we start posing the question, ‘Who are you as a global follower?’ and really attach energy to that question.”“I envision global followers as a force in numbers, in opinions, in actions.”
Episode References
Tolstikov-Mast, Y. (2016). Global followership: The launch of the scholarly journey. In J. S. Osland, M. Li, & Y. Want (Eds.), Advances in Global Leadership (Vol. 9, pp. 109-150). Bingley, UK: Emerald.
Tolstikov-Mast, Y., & Aghajanian, C. (2023). Intersectional approach to combating human trafficking: Applying an Interdisciplinary Global Leader-Follower Collaboration Paradigm. In: Dhiman, S.K., Marques, J., Schmieder-Ramirez, J., Malakyan, P.G. (eds) Handbook of Global Leadership and Followership. Springer.
https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-030-75831-8_38-1
"What is Global Leadership?"
https://blog.utc.edu/mark-mendenhall/files/2015/05/World-Financial-Review_What-is-Global-Leadership.pdf
"10 socially-conscious players who showed footballers don’t need to 'stick to sport'"
https://www.squawka.com/en/socially-conscious-footballers-dont-need-to-stick-to-sport/
Title IX Company
https://www.titlenine.com/who-we-are.html
Mighty Be Our Powers: How Sisterhood, Prayer, and Sex Changed a Nation at War, by Leymah Gbowee
https://www.amazon.com/Mighty-Be-Our-Powers-Sisterhood/dp/0984295194
National Whistleblower Center
https://www.whistleblowers.org/how-whistleblowers-changed-the-world/
Global Followership Conference
www.followershipconference.com
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Followers Navigating Ethical Dilemmas - Kyle Payne
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Dr. Kyle Payne, a strategic talent development leader based in Chicago, describes his recent study exploring how professional engineers navigate ethical dilemmas.
Kyle has fifteen years of experience driving process improvement and behavior change through training, coaching, and consulting. In his research, he focuses on unethical behavior at work and examines the behaviors of “ethical followers” who resist unethical behavior and call into question unethical thinking.
UPDATE: Dr. Payne's article (discussed in this episode) will be published in the summer 2024 issue of the International Journal of Ethical Leadership. Upon publication, the article may be downloaded from the journal website at https://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/ijel/.
“There was a lot of mention of protecting the public, protecting themselves, that sense of being a moral person, protecting colleagues, protecting the profession as well.”“I’m hearing these examples of very creative and courageous actions, and yet, that same participant is telling me, I wish I could have acted sooner.” “It’s not just a decision, you really need to have a space where you can express these concerns, where you can feel heard…otherwise I’m not sure where you develop that sense of self-efficacy.”
Research References
Mary Uhl-Bien, Ronald E. Riggio, Kevin B. Lowe, Melissa K. Carsten. Followership theory: A review and research agenda. The Leadership Quarterly, Volume 25, Issue 1, 2014, Pages 83-104. Carsten, M. K., & Uhl-Bien, M. (2013). Ethical Followership: An Examination of Followership Beliefs and Crimes of Obedience. Journal of Leadership & Organizational Studies, 20(1), 49-61. Chaleff, I. (2009). The courageous follower: Standing up to and for our leaders (3rd ed.). Berret-Koehler Publishers.Hernandez, M., & Sitkin, S. B. (2012). Who is leading the leader? Follower influence on leader ethicality. In D. D. Cremer, & A. E. Tenbrunsel (Eds.), Behavioral business ethics: Shaping an emerging field (pp. 81-104). Routledge. Kassing, J. (2011). Dissent in organizations. Polity Press.
Other References
Kasia Urbaniak, Unboundhttps://www.amazon.com/Unbound-Womans-Guide-Kasia-Urbaniak-ebook/dp/B084FKX7XV/ S1 E8: How Courageous Followers can stop Destructive Leadership - Alain de Saleshttps://leadfollow.buzzsprout.com/1735834/8716279-courageous-followers-can-stop-destructive-leadership-alain-de-sales Global Followership Conference – April 25-26, 2024http://www.followershipconference.com
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Website: http://www.kylepaynephd.com
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Season 3 Preview - Sharna Fabiano
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Hi Everyone, this is Sharna. I’ve spent the beginning of the year in a resting phase with the podcast, letting the new season slowly take shape in my mind. New episodes are coming soon, in early March, and I’m hoping this little preview will give you a sense of how I’m thinking about season 3 as a collection of conversations.
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Democrats Have a Better Option Than Biden
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/democrats-have-a-better-option-than-biden/id1548604447?i=1000645559771
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Three Compelling Ideas for 2024 - Sharna Fabiano
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In this short, end-of year episode, host Sharna Fabiano reflects on season 2 and shares three compelling lead and follow ideas to try out in your own life and work in 2024. Please send feedback on Season 2 along with suggestions for Season 3 directly to Sharna at sharna@sharnafabiano.com.
Special thanks to Glover Gill for providing our music.
Lead & Follow, by Sharna Fabiano
https://www.sharnafabiano.com/book/
The FREE Lead & Follow Skill Sheet
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Unbound: A Woman's Guide to Power, by Kasia Urbaniak
https://www.kasiaurbaniak.com/unbound-book
S1 E 23: The Necessity of Followership in Peace Building – Pedro Portela
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S1 E12: Followership Skills as Part of Professional Development - Brian Rook
https://leadfollow.buzzsprout.com/1735834/9075187-followership-skills-as-part-of-professional-development-brian-rook
S1 E8: Courageous Followers can Stop Destructive Leadership - Alain de Sales
https://leadfollow.buzzsprout.com/1735834/8716279-courageous-followers-can-stop-destructive-leadership-alain-de-sales
Letters to Leaders
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Toxic Followership and Definitions of Power - Wendy M. Edmonds
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Dr. Wendy M. Edmonds is Interim Chair of the Management, Marketing, and Public Administration Department in the College of Business at a Historically Black University, and Co-Chair of the Global Followership Conference 2024. Her research focus is on toxic followership (people following bad people). She is an author, and internationally recognized toxic followership expert with a passion for positive change. Dr. Edmonds describes herself as a Workplace Toxicologist whose mission is to dismantle toxic followership and foster healthier, more productive environments.
Wendy shares the characteristics of this important - if darker - aspect of followership and how it influences how powerful or powerless we may feel in our every day lives as employees, as members of a community, or as citizens. We also discuss how to use popular media and physical role plays in the classroom to inspire rich conversations about different kinds of followership and leadership choices.
“Toxic followership is consistent destructive behavior over and over again.”
“We have to begin to have others understand that it doesn’t matter where you are – you have power that you can make the change.”
“How you use power is what’s most important.”
Episode References
CNN: Escape From Jonestown
https://vimeo.com/244066619
S1 E8- Courageous Followers can Stop Destructive Leadership - Alain de Sales
https://leadfollow.buzzsprout.com/1735834/8716279-courageous-followers-can-stop-destructive-leadership-alain-de-sales
Time of Essence documentary - the story of Essence Magazine
https://www.oprah.com/app/time-of-essence-full-episodes.html
Self-made TV series – inspired by the life of Madame CJ Walker
https://www.netflix.com/title/80202462
Intoxicating Followership, by Wendy M Edmonds
https://www.amazon.com/Intoxicating-Followership-Jonestown-Wendy-Edmonds/dp/1800714599
Global Followership Conference
http://www.followershipconference.com
Connect with Dr. Wendy M. Edmonds
https://www.drwendymedmonds.com/
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