Holding Up The Ladder Matshidiso

Holding up the Ladder Salon Series I
This episode is in collaboration with Black British Art, an arts platform that focuses on championing, educating, curating and advising on all that is Black British Art. 
Its founder Lisa Anderson-Diffang, a curator, consultant and Interim Managing Director of The Black Cultural Archives* chairs the discussion asking the question - ‘Are we having a Black British Art Renaissance?’. 
Our panellists were: 
Bolanle Tajudeen - founder of Black Blossoms – an expanded curatorial platform showcasing contemporary Black women and non-binary artists since 2015. In 2020 Bolanle launched the Black Blossoms School of Art and Culture, an online learning platform decolonizing art education. 
Bernice Mulenga is a London based multidisciplinary artist, who prioritises the use of analog processes in their work. Mulenga’s work also explores recurring themes surrounding their identity, sexuality, grief, family, and Congolese culture. 
And Dr Kimathi Donkor, Kimathi is a contemporary artist. His work re-imagines mythic, legendary and everyday encounters across Africa and its global Diasporas, principally in painting. Dr Donkor earned his PhD at Chelsea College of Arts and he is currently Course Leader for the BA (Hons) degree in Fine Art: Painting at Camberwell College of Arts. 
On the night we were served a bespoke menu consistent with the Black British Art theme prepared by The Future Plate, the chef was William Chilila.
The episode was produced and recorded by AiAi studios
*Lisa Anderson is now Managing Director of the Black Cultural Archives
Title: 'Are we having a Black British Art Renaissance?’
LINKS:
Panellists
Bolanle Tajudeen: https://www.black-blossoms.online/; IG - @blackblossoms.online
Bernice Mulenga: https://www.bernicemulenga.com/; IG - @burneece 
Dr Kimathi Donkor: https://www.kimathidonkor.net/; IG - @kimathi.donkor
Chair
Lisa Anderson-Diffang: IG - @lisaandersonaa
Black British Art: IG - @blackbritishart
Black Cultural Archives: https://blackculturalarchives.org/
Food
The Future Plate - https://www.thefutureplate.com/
William Chilila: IG - @william_chilila
Salon Series I Playlist - https://tinyurl.com/5mf5n6sn
For images of the event head to the podcast website - https://www.holdinguptheladder.com/

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We have come full circle and reached the end of season 3 - time really flies! I started this season expressing my desire to talk about social justice, racism and discrimination. I gave the example of the Japanese art of Kintsugi - the broken vessel that is mended to make new. And who better to talk about these Kintsugi ideals than the person who introduced me to this concept, return guest, artist Makoto Fujimura. This time he joins me with his incredible wife, lawyer and justice advocate Haejin Shim.
This episode was so powerful and whilst it was recorded sometime in June, the themes remain ever-relevant. We talk about the ways in which beauty, art and justice intersect. Can beauty be found in justice, can art be used as an instrument for justice? What does justice really mean? We talk about faith and beauty. Beauty not as perfection, it’s not cosmetic - but beauty as a journey - a journey into the new. And we can’t talk about beauty without talking about sacrifice and suffering - suffering that leads to what Mako calls ‘generative love’. 
I have so much to say about this episode, so much that it’s better that I just say less and you listen and draw your own conclusions.
Guests: Makoto Fujimura & Haejin Shim
Title: Beauty, Art & Justice
Music on playlist: Susie Ibarra, Walking on Water
Makoto Fujimura Links:
Bio
Website
IG
Twitter
Kintsugi Academy
Culture Care Podcast
Books

Haejin Shim Links:
Bio
IG
Embers International Website
Embers International IG
Shim & Associates Law Firm

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Have you ever asked yourself the question - what is music? Does nature around us - the birds, the trees - make music? What is music supposed to do? I had never thought of these questions (and I didn’t even plan on asking them) until I spoke with my guest today, composer Alexander Liebermann.
Alexander is an award-winning composer, arranger and educator who trained at Musikhochschule Hanns Eisler in Berlin, at New York’s Juilliard and is currently doing his doctorate at the Manhattan School of Music. Alexander’s work is wide-ranging, he writes for ensembles, choral music, orchestras, solo instruments, film scores and how I discovered him, transcribing animal sounds.
We talk about Alexander’s childhood raised in a household of musicians. His composition process, how his lockdown pastime of transcribing animal sounds has not only impacted his composition writing but other musicians. We talk about why a lot of his work centres around nature and climate change, but that he always desires to convey a hopeful message- that hope and positivity can be more effective tools to engage people rather than fear and cynicism.
We talk about how the classical music emphasis on technique and virtuosity isn’t always as important as the story or the passion a musician is trying to convey. We talk about how multi-faceted art and the artist is - as Alexander says, a line I love, 'critique is very easy, but art is difficult’. 
My conversation with Alexander wasn’t about finding or establishing answers, for me it was - and why I love doing this podcast - about someone creating work that caused me to consider the world around me in a new way. And as this series is about creative ways to bring about social change, is it possible to do so in joyful and unburdened ways, in ways that inspire fascination and curiosity? I think Alexander has inadvertently done that. Isn’t that what art can do - bypass the mind and go straight to the heart?
Guest: Alexander Liebermann
Title: What is music?
Music on playlist: Erwin Schulhoff, Hot - Sonate
Alexander's links:
Bio
Website
IG
Featured music by Alexander:
De Poeta
Cello Sonata, II, Lento (feat. Raphaël Liebermann)
Erwachen  follow the score here
Welcome to the Anthroprocene
Animal song:
Humpback whale
Uirapuru Wren
Seal
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As we continue our conversations about the ways in which art and creativity can be used to bring about social change, I wanted to talk about how normalising the ordinary can actually be a form of activism. I’m joined by kids’ fashion stylist, blogger, lecturer, start-up entrepreneur, artist, wife and mother of two, Yvadney Davis. We talk about normalising the black family, a family that is happy and healthy with children who are free to be themselves outside of the racist and burdensome tropes of anti-blackness. How raising children who are free to play and be curious - free to be children - is in fact an act of radical resistance.
We talk about Yvadney’s journey into styling, about the creative personality that isn’t linear, that loves exploring and learning new things. We talk about how to have frank conversations with children about racism in an age appropriate way. We talk about the world of mum bloggers, that according to Yvadney is, ‘absolutely nuts’ and why she wanted to set up her own blog Mum’s that Slay. We talk about some of the tokenistic and profiteering responses to George Floyd’s murder and how Yvadney felt compelled to speak out against the hypocrisy of it all. 
We talk about the creative personality. We about the tech start up she launched with her husband during the pandemic - Musingobingo - an online music bingo game, I’ve played it a few times it’s really really fun! 
Yvadney is a bit of a hero of mine - as a friend, I see how she raises her kids, how she juggles all her different roles it’s her realness that inspires me - there’s so much pretending and curating of our lives - Yvadney is honest when it’s hard, she rejoices at the small everyday wins and I watch her raise two quirky, free, unburdened black children with her husband and it inspires no end. The ordinary is for me extraordinary.
Guest: Yvadney Davis
Title: My activism is showing us thriving
Artists on playlist: Alfa Mist; H.E.R.; Robert Glasper; DeBarge; Leikeli47
Yvadney's links:
Styling - IG: @Yvadney and Twitter: @Yvadney
Mum's that Slay Blog and IG
Yvadney's Art - YvadneyDavisArt
Musingobingo - Website Instagram Twitter
Radio Show - Vibes and Stuff

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ADVISORY: This episode contains adult themes unsuitable for younger audiences
In this week’s episode of HUTL we’re talking about the idea of radical homelessness. Where do we find home? What does home mean? Is home a physical or geographical location, is it a state of being or is it both? And how does this idea of home manifest itself within the context of black queer masculinity?! To help me answer some of these complex questions, I’m joined by artist and filmmaker director, filmmaker, writer, broadcaster, and theatre practitioner Topher Campbell.
Topher Campbell’s practice spans broadcasting, theatre, performance, writing, experimental film and site-specific work. His focus has been on sexuality, masculinity, race, human rights, memoir and climate change. In 2000 he co-founded rukus! Federation a Black Queer arts collective with photographer Ajamu X. 
We talk about pro-blackness, pro-blackness that doesn’t mean anti-white, it’s not anti anything, it’s ‘pro’. It is as he and Ajamu X sought to do with rukus! Federation moving away from the idea of black people as victims and more about redefining and repositioning themselves publicly. 
We interrogate the idea of home, of belonging. For Topher, belonging doesn’t mean approval but rather ‘how you bear witness to your existence’. We talk about why he chose to walk through the streets of New York naked for his 2014 film Fetish. A kind of artistic response piece to the police murder of 12 year old Tamir Rice in 2014. Topher loves to walk through cities, this idea that something so mundane can be for the black body a surveilled, unsafe, violent place. How, as Topher explains, the Black body is never neutral.
Guest: Topher Campbell
Title: The Black Body is never neutral
Artists on playlist: Dudu Pukwana, Fela Kuti, Earthgang, Spillage Village
Support his film Encounters
Full Bio
IMDB page 

Social Media Links:
IG
Twitter
Links to Topher's work:
rukus! Federation
rukus! Federation Article
Topher Campbell and Billy Bragg article in The Independent
Sussex University Graduation Speech
Films:
The Homecoming
Invisible

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Who gets to tell stories, who gets to tell your story? How does story relate to the body? What are the stories our bodies tell? These are some of the questions I delve into through the prism of African women, tattoos and scarification, with my guests today Laurence Sessou and return guest Jessica Horn (catch Jessica in S01 Ep. 7 of HUTL) founders of The Temple of her Skin
Jessica and Laurence, two African women hailing from East Africa and Benin in West Africa respectively were inspired by their own tattoo and scarification journeys to create space for other African women to do the same. Moving away from either the hyper sexualised or anthropological - think National Geographic tribal woman imagery - to discover the real and complex stories of these adorned women, because well, aren’t we all real and complex people? They are discovering as Jessica says ‘where tattooing and scarification sits in our varied African histories’.
We talk about the tattoos that have marked significant moments in their lives. We talk about the difference between tattoos and scarification. We talk about the importance of their grandmothers in their spiritual practices and traditions. We talk about pain, pain not as something we seek after but rather as an almost unavoidable component of bringing something forth - which is why we also talk about childbirth! 
We of course talk a lot about the body, about understanding the body, about being connected to the body, about agency over one’s body and how this agency is in fact an act of resistance. 
Guests: The Temple of Her Skin
Title: Our Embodiment
Music on playlist inspired from the African continent:
Sauti Sol (Kenya)
Zoe Modiga - Uthando (South Africa)
J.B Mpiana - Ndombolo (Congo)
Ria Boss (Ghana)
Sena Dagadu (Ghana)
Star Number One De Dakar- Waalo (Senegal)
Mpho Sebina & Pianochella (South Africa)
The Temple of Her Skin Links:
Website
IG
Trailer
Support their visual documentary project
Dance Divas on the BBC
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