Mid-Riff Hilary B. Jones

Sneaking into punk clubs, recording with Don Zientara in high school, working with a record label run by a woman, and the intersection of time, age, and notoriety are part of Hilary’s conversation with guitarist and vocalist, Thalia Zedek.

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THALIA’s BIO
Guitarist/vocalist Thalia Zedek began playing in bands and recording soon after moving to Boston from Washington D.C. in 1979. In 1986, Thalia’s 3rd band, Uzi, released an EP on Homestead Records called “Sleep Asylum” which was later reissued by Gerard Cosloy on Matador Records in 1993. After Uzi broke up Thalia joined established noise rock band Live Skull on lead vocals and relocated to New York. She recorded 2 albums and an EP with them before returning to Boston and founding the band Come in 1991. Come released 4 albums and numerous EP’s and singles on the Matador, Sub Pop, Domino, Glitterhouse and Placebo labels. Their full catalogue is currently being reissued on Fire Records. In 2001 Thalia started releasing solo records under her own name, first on Matador and Kimchee Records and then on the Thrill Jockey label where she continues as an active recording artist to this day. In addition to her solo work Thalia also records and performs with the Thalia Zedek Band and her newer band E, a trio that she started in 2013 with Jason Sanford of Neptune. She was also a member of the now defunct experimental group tK E has released 2 singles, a cassette, 3 LP’s and an EP and are currently working on their 4th LP. Thalia continues to tour in the US and internationally with the Thalia Zedek Band and E, as well as the band Come, who reunited to tour in support of their recent reissues. Her most recent releases are 2021’s “Perfect Vision” LP on Thrill Jockey by the Thalia Zedek Band, and 2022’s “Any Information” EP by E on the Czech label Silver Rocket. In 2023’s E released 7inch “Live at Cave 12” on the 100% Breakfast label.

THALIA’s MENTIONS
The Cramps / Urban Verbs / Patti Smith / The Ramones / Deceits / The Razz / The Nurses / Fingers of Shame / The Shirkers / Limp Records / Stiff Records / Don Zientara / Inner Ear Studio / Jason Sanford / Alec Tisdale / Volcano Kings / Gavin McCarthy / Karate / Ernie Kim / Bob Dylan / Eric Clapton / Dave Davenport / Steve Miller Band / Berklee / Mr. Music / Bettina Richards / Thrill Jockey Records / Boston RPM / Karen Sarkisian / Handsy / Nurse and Soldier / Hidden Fountain / Cortez / Gibson / Peavey / Fender / Danelectro / Silvertone / Hagstrom / Kent / Ampeg / Music Man / Other Space Electronics / Dwarfcraft Devices / Electro-Harmonix / EarthQuaker Devices / Tokai / Ibanez / Boss

THALIA’s LINKS
Thalia Zedek Band website
Thalia Zedek Band Facebook
E website
E Bandcamp
E Facebook
tK Bandcamp
tK Facebook

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Bumper Music: “Smoked” by Thalia Zedek Band
Theme Music: "Hedonism" by Towanda
Artwork by Julia Gualtieri

Is Lizzo a monster? What about Morrissey? What about Jimmy Page or David Bowie or Ryan Adams the guy in that local band who always hits on teenagers or the myriad other artists who have allegedly engaged in behavior that has harmed others? How do we interact with them and their art once the harm is revealed? How does art intersect with the artist’s identities and experiences or our own? In today’s episode, Hilary digs into the nuances of these questions (and *spoiler* there are more questions than answers!).

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EPISODE MENTIONS
Monsters: A Fan’s Dilemma by Claire Dederer
We Will Not Cancel Us: And Other Dreams of Transformative Justice by adrienne maree brown

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Theme Music: "Hedonism" by Towanda
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Creating a 25-person musical collective featuring black women and gender expansive musicians, musical strategizing, and AI and appropriation are part of Hilary’s conversation with musician, lawyer, writer, and consultant, Gabriella “Guitar Gabby” Logan.

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GABBY’s BIO
Atlanta native Gabriella “Guitar Gabby” Logan is a Strategy Lawyer and proud Spelman College and Vermont Law School graduate. Her passion for perspective fueled her desire to establish TxLips Band, LLC., a global entity that triples as a TxLips Academy, TxLips Consulting Group, and an international female and gender-expansive rock collective. Logan believes it is vital for people to be well-rounded and strategic in creating careers based on passion and built off longevity.

She is the Diversity Editor for Guitar Girl Magazine, President of the Girls Rock Camp Alliance Board of Directors, and a Board Member of the Vermont Law School Alumni Association Board of Directors.

GABBY’s MENTIONS
Diamond / Cry Mob / J Fly / Sister Rosetta Tharpe / Tina Bell / Johnson / Ibanez / Jackson / ESP / PRS / EMG / Ernie Ball / Jodi Head straps / Crate / Fender / Kustom

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Bumper Music: “The Dead Pool” by Guitar Gabby & The TxLips Band
Theme Music: "Hedonism" by Towanda
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A recent court case found that playing songs with offensive lyrics in a workplace can contribute to hostile environment sexual harassment. But what the heck is that? And how can you prevent it? Hilary covers some harassment basics in this episode!

--> Some steps to follow if you've experienced harassment can be found on the EEOC website

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Music as a reputable career choice, boy bands, prophetic guitar tattoos, visiting 34 countries, and the role of those with power in the industry are part of Hilary’s conversation with guitarist Angie Swan.

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ANGIE’s BIO
Angie Swan is a guitarist/producer originally from Milwaukee, WI. After Attending Berklee College of Music, Angie worked with artists such as David Byrne ("American Utopia"), Will.i.am, Cee Lo Green, Billy Porter, Fifth Harmony, Ari Lennox, Adam Lambert, Terri Lyne Carrington and many more. She has also toured with Cirque du Soleil’s production Amaluna. Angie is a 2x Grammy nominee and Tony Award recipient. Angie is currently working on releasing her debut album set to be released in late 2023. 

ANGIE’s MENTIONS
NAMM / Berklee / Premier Guitar / Guitar World / Paul McCartney / Prince / Joe Satriani / Stevie Ray Vaughn / Tracy Chapman / Robert Cray / Dave Brubeck / Chick Correa / Green Day / Nine Inch Nails / Nirvana / Stone Temple Pilots / Jared Sharp / Talking Heads / Adrian Belew / David Byrne / Jerry Harrison / Wes Montgomery / Jimmy Page / Pete Kepler / Anna Blumenthal / Sam Barsch / Mono Neon / Lyndon Rochelle / Esperanza Spalding / Annie Clark / St Vincent / Justin Tranter / Reeve Carney / Thomas Pridgen / Ronald Bruner / Eddie Brown / Novo Guitars / Fano Guitars / Naggs Guitars / PRS Guitars / Lollar Pickups / Epiphone Guitars / Gibson Guitars / Kauer Guitars / Mesa Boogie Amps / Supro Amps / Kemper Amps / Fender Guitars / EarthQuaker Devices / Walrus Audio / Quarantine Effects / Boss Effects

ANGIE’s LINKS
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Theme Music: "Hedonism" by Towanda
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Feeling overwhelmed by the world? Want to come up with a plan to get involved, but need a few ideas? Hilary’s got you (and/or your music-related company) covered.

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Theme Music / "Hedonism" by Towanda / towanda.bandcamp.com 
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