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Hosts Claire Mazur and Erica Cerulo, who you might know as the co-founders of the website Of a Kind (RIP!) or the co-authors of the book Work Wife, are all about discovery and enthusiasm. We've heard this weekly podcast described as a 'unique mix of urgent discussions of non-urgent things and thoughtful discussions of important, and often otherwise ignored, things,' and we're very much on board with that take.

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica Dear Media

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Hosts Claire Mazur and Erica Cerulo, who you might know as the co-founders of the website Of a Kind (RIP!) or the co-authors of the book Work Wife, are all about discovery and enthusiasm. We've heard this weekly podcast described as a 'unique mix of urgent discussions of non-urgent things and thoughtful discussions of important, and often otherwise ignored, things,' and we're very much on board with that take.

    Mickey Drexler and Sweet Potatoes—a Classic Combination?! - Rerun!

    Mickey Drexler and Sweet Potatoes—a Classic Combination?! - Rerun!

    Talk about thrilling: We have a bonafide icon on today’s ep. We’re talking to Mickey Drexler—who spearheaded Gap and J.Crew in their heydays and is now helping make magic happen at Alex Mill—about how he works and just plain does his days. But first: sweet potatoes, which aren’t boring, ok?
     
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    Three recipes for exciting sweet potatoes! Ones loaded with lentils, citrus, and feta, ones topped with tahini butter, and ones baked into a (paleo) bread. And one non-recipe: almond butter and seasoned rice vinegar mixed into a sauce and topped with furikake.
     
    Mickey Drexler’s latest retail undertaking (led by his son, Alex Drexler!) is Alex Mill. We love it. Erica wears these and this all the time, Claire can often be spotted in this and this, and just about everybody sweats these.
     
    When it comes to meditating, Mickey is into Hamsa and Transcendental Meditation.
     
    A home-goods business Mickey likes: Snowe.
     
    Wow, do we get psyched about voicemails: 833-632-5463!
     
    Yay!
     
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    • 48 min
    The Newsletters We Always Open...and Perhaps Too Many Thoughts on Ironing - Rerun!

    The Newsletters We Always Open...and Perhaps Too Many Thoughts on Ironing - Rerun!

    Reading newsletters and doing ironing—two indoor-kid activities no doubt! Ok, seriously, though, take care of yourselves, find some good distractions, and maybe try to get some fresh air?

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    Claire bought a full-size ironing board by Brabantia and highly endorses it, and Erica has this hook thingy to hang her ironing board on that she thinks is just great.
     
    The most ironing-enthusiastic person in our world—Claire’s mom—swears by the Miele Rotary Iron (a.k.a. a mangle) for sheets/linens and the LauraStar ironing system (um, as featured in Parasite?!).
     
    To avoid ironing jeans: dryer balls, like these from Heart Felt and these from Food52.
     
    Ok, newsletters! Here are allllll of the ones we love: The Ann Friedman Weekly, Girls’ Night In, Shelter, This Week in Scams, Garden Variety, Here for It w/ R. Eric Thomas (same name as his new book), Why is this interesting?, Cassandra Daily, Well To Do, Deez Links, Quartz Daily Obsession, The New Consumer, Sehat, The Examined Life (from the author of The New Better Off), The Noah Kalina Newsletter (sidenote: Noah’s self-portrait project), Oversharing, Five Things I Ate, and Read Like the Wind.
     
    Voicemails! Love ‘em! Leave ‘em! 833-632-5463.
    YAY.
     
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    • 33 min
    Wondery presents Bunga Bunga

    Wondery presents Bunga Bunga

    Silvio Berlusconi was a charismatic multi-millionaire real-estate mogul who upended the Italian political order and hypnotized an entire nation. He was the longest-serving prime minister of one of the world’s wealthiest countries, until he was brought down by three powerful women - and two words: “Bunga Bunga.” From Wondery, the makers of Dirty John and The Shrink Next Door, and hosted by comedian Whitney Cummings, “Bunga Bunga” is an eight part series on the incredible true story of the rise and fall of Silvio Berlusconi, told with Whitney’s signature wit and style.
     
    Listen today at http://wondery.fm/AThingOrTwo_BB 

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    Marisa Meltzer’s Excellent Book This Is Big and, Somehow, Billy Idol - Rerun!

    Marisa Meltzer’s Excellent Book This Is Big and, Somehow, Billy Idol - Rerun!

    Geez, does Marisa Meltzer know how to get the wheels turning. We talk to her about her shiny new book This Is Big, which digs deep into dieting, wellness, feminism, body positivity, and the intersection of those topics—and also about friendship and snacks. Much to discuss, you see. But first! A truly odd (if entertaining) NYC campaign we didn’t want you to miss.
     
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    If you somehow want more on the Billy Never Idles campaign, well, here you go.
     
    Read Marisa’s book, This Is Big: How the Founder of Weight Watchers Changed the World (and Me)! Do it!
     
    Jean Nidetch’s NYT obit from 2015—and the whole Overlooked No More obit project.
     
    A wonderful article Marisa wrote a while back for Elle about diets + feminism.
     
    We enthusiastically endorse Katie Sturino’s Boob Sweat podcast. Marisa shouts-out this interview with CeCe Olisa in particular.
     
    Let’s talk about SNACKS real quick: Graham crackers (with cream cheese, covered in chocolate, or as part of an #indoorsmore situation), The Daily Crave smoked gouda lentil chips, and Tapatio Doritos.
     
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    • 38 min
    Ok, MoMA Design Store’s Design Innovations for Women Are Blowing Our Minds

    Ok, MoMA Design Store’s Design Innovations for Women Are Blowing Our Minds

    Two things we love: 1) women’s bodies 2) problem-solving. So imagine our delight when we discovered that MoMA Design Store put together a whole freaking beautiful, educational, and useful pop-up around Design Innovations for Women. In partnership with the MoMA Design Store team, we sat down with Chay Costello and Alex Glaser, the buyers responsible for spearheading this initiative who, yes, also happen to be work wives. We talk menstruation, motherhood, menopause—and you bet your vulvas we asked what it’s like to discuss these topics at the office. 
     
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    You can shop MoMA Design Store’s groundbreaking Design Innovations for Women pop-up online and at their Soho store in NYC until September 27. So, so, sooo good.
     
    A couple of previous podcast eps relevant to this conversation: Pledging to Shop Better and What to Expect When Claire’s Expecting.
     
    Michelle Obama’s recent pod ep on menopause—definitely worth a listen.
     
    A few of Claire’s personal faves in the Design Innovations for Women mix: the Elvie Kegel Smart Trainer and the Haakaa Generation 2 Breast Pump. 
     
    For more on Chay Costello, Alex Glaser, and the MoMA Design Store merchandising team, hit up 99U.
     
    Some things and people Chay and Alex looked to as they pulled together this pop-up: Sssh! Periods podcast, Dame’s reusable tampon applicator (available in the UK!), Darcey Steinke’s   Flash Count Diary: Menopause and the Vindication of Natural Life, Michelle Fisher’s Designing Motherhood project at MFA Boston, designer of the first bike saddle for women Georgena Terry, designers of the first sports bra (the Jogbra!) Lisa Lindahl and Polly Smith, Womanly magazine, The Unmentionables podcast from Nyssa, and the pelvic-floor physical therapist Sara Reardon a.k.a. @the.vagina.whisperer.
     
    Just a handful of the almost 50 products part of this design movement v. worth checking out: Aisle Period Undies Boxer Brief, TOP The Organic Project Cotton Tampons with Plant-Based Applicator, DivaCup, Elvie Double Breast Pump, The Period Game, Penny Pack First Period Kit, and MoMA Champion Sports Bra.
     
    Leave us reviews, voicemails (833-632-5463), IG direct messages (@athingortwohq)!
     
    We’re going to be on hiatus for the next few weeks! We’ll be re-airing some recent greatest hits, but if you miss us deep in your bones, might we direct you to Secret Menu?
     
    Try out the Caviar app—you get $10 off your food order of $20 or more with the code ATHINGORTWO.
    YAY.
     
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    • 50 min
    Why We Need Color in Our Homes Now...And the Joy of Kacey Musgraves Merch

    Why We Need Color in Our Homes Now...And the Joy of Kacey Musgraves Merch

    Yes, we like white walls and pale wood, but our eyes need some *excitement* these days, and we have a whole bunch of ways to give ‘em what they require (without going full Gigi Hadid maximalist). Also worth adding to your “Hues You Can Use” moodboard: just about everything in Kacey Musgraves’s merch shop. 
     
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    More where this came from c/o Secret Menu! (Click-y name, right?!)
     
    All hail Merch Queen Kacey Musgraves! This longsleeve tee, this velvet poster, her Boy Smells collab Slow Burn candle (and companion Burn in a Hurry lighter), the Lonely Weekend Self-Care Kit, High Time rolling papers, an ugly Christmas sweater, and faux snow (but of course?).
     
    Breaking August news: Kacey’s Christmas album really is so good (and can we talk about this Dolly Parton holiday album announcement?!).
     
    Some of the places we’re getting our colorful interior inspiration: Tina Seidenfaden Busck’s The Residence, Matilda Goad, Justina Blakeney, Ellen van Dusen’s Brooklyn home, Beata Heuman, Laurel Broughton’s Echo Park house, Luis Barragán, and Tony Duquette.
     
    Claire has a green couch! That she loves! It’s the Clad Home Dawson Sleeper in Klein Emerald.
     
    Erica has one (1) wall of wallpaper! She’s obsessed! It’s Josef Frank’s Paradiset.
     
    Tabletop stuff! Wolfum trays, bright taper candles, Opinel steak knives.
     
    Colorful glassware! Lateral Objects, R+D.Lab, Estelle Colored Glass, Keane.
     
    Furniture! The Inside, Inside Weather, Hay, Eric Trine / Amigo Modern, Interior Define.
     
    Ceramics! Studio Hecha, Raina Lee, Concrete Cat, Russel Wright, Fiestaware, Year & Day, Massimo Vignelli for Heller, Raawii.
     
    Lights! La Veste, Eo Ipso, Casa Cosima, Commune.
     
    Textiles! Hillery Sproatt, Dusen Dusen, Aelfie, Tantuvi, Cold Picnic, Society of Wanderers, Marimekko, Bolé Road Textiles.
     
    Paint! Clare, Backdrop, Farrow & Ball.
     
    Related: the Farrow & Ball New Yorker story.
     
    If you want more on colorful home stuff, check our ep with our trade-show recap.
     
    We’re here for your thoughts: DMs to @athingortwohq, voicemails at 833-632-5463, or reviews of this podcast are always welcome. 
     
    Check out the powerful MoMA Design Store Design Innovations for Women pop-up.
    Listen to Michelle Obama’s wonderful new podcast on Spotify.
    Try out Rory’s nightly defense skincare treatment for only $5.
    YAY.
     
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    • 42 min

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