28 episodes

We document our journey trying to double our content marketing agency over the next 2 years (by Jan 2026).

Grow and Convert Podcast Benji Hyam and Devesh Khanal

    • Business

We document our journey trying to double our content marketing agency over the next 2 years (by Jan 2026).

    Episode 17 - How to Write Non-Basic SEO Content (Even With Basic SEO Keywords)

    Episode 17 - How to Write Non-Basic SEO Content (Even With Basic SEO Keywords)

    In this episode, Devesh starts off by sharing the two goals of the content pieces we write for clients. Then he shares examples explaining the differences between how we write articles vs. how most blog writers write articles.
    We dissect the differences in how we write blog post introductions, body copy and share why we think it's important to have subject matter experts make the arguments that go inside of blog posts.
    This episode should help you learn how to write better copy inside of articles that are targeting SEO keywords.
    Article examples:
    Omnichannel reporting example: https://www.tapclicks.com/resources/b...Segment example: https://segment.com/growth-center/omn...Mandala AI Example: https://blog.mandalasystem.com/en/omn...
    Grow and Convert writing related articles:
    The detail principle for writing good blog posts: https://www.growandconvert.com/conten...Writing great blog introductions: https://www.growandconvert.com/conten...Pain point copywriting: https://www.growandconvert.com/conten...

    • 46 min
    Episode 16: April Recap - Our Highest Client Count and Revenue Ever

    Episode 16: April Recap - Our Highest Client Count and Revenue Ever

    In this episode, we share where we are relative to our doubling the agency goal. Then we talk through what's been working from a marketing perspective and some of the operational challenges that we're anticipating if we keep growing this quickly.

    • 28 min
    Episode 15: Disruption Stories - What They Are and How to Write Them

    Episode 15: Disruption Stories - What They Are and How to Write Them

    In Episode 10, the episode about content strategies for new businesses, we shared that we were planning on doing a disruption story for one of our clients. 
    In this episode, we share who the client is (Mirascope.io), the article and talk through some decisions that were made when writing the story.
    Then we share a couple of other examples of disruption stories that we've produced for clients. 

    • 23 min
    Episode 14: Can SEO Content also be Thought Leadership Content? Our Thoughts.

    Episode 14: Can SEO Content also be Thought Leadership Content? Our Thoughts.

    Can SEO content also be "thought leadership content?" Many people think these two kinds of content are completely different. More specifically, that you can't share thought leadership type ideas inside of SEO content and get articles to rank.
    We share a different view. We think that SEO and thought leadership ideas do go together. In this video, we share multiple examples of thought leadership ideas being included inside of SEO focused articles and show how they're able to rank against articles that all share largely the same ideas.
    We think that Google wants more differentiation in content and will start to reward differentiation more in the SERPS.

    • 41 min
    Episode 13: March Recap, A New Record High in Sight?

    Episode 13: March Recap, A New Record High in Sight?

    March was a challenging month for us. We had our first churn of the year- which was not a great way to start the month- however it ended on a positive note.
    We discuss the churn, some new clients, our lead numbers and then share some ideas for changes we're going to be making to our marketing.
    Enjoy.

    • 19 min
    Episode 12: Why you SHOULD measure the ROI of an individual piece of content and how to track in GA4

    Episode 12: Why you SHOULD measure the ROI of an individual piece of content and how to track in GA4

    LinkedIn influencer claims that: "Measuring the ROI of an individual piece of content (like this LinkedIn video, for instance) is not only a huge waste of time, it’s flat out not accurate.
    When it comes to “ROI”, focus on measuring the ROI of the *channel* instead of each individual piece of content."
    In this video, we break down why that argument is completely flawed. 
    We discuss how having the article level of granularity in conversion data is what led to the creation of Pain Point SEO and how this informs future content pieces that generate ROI.
    Then we share a new process for tracking conversions using a combination of GA4 and BigQuery.

    • 46 min

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