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The Voice of Early Childhood Podcast: involving you in thought-provoking discussions around early childhood. This weekly podcast brings you discussion, reflection, debate and a window into the minds of advocates working with our young leaders of tomorrow.

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The Voice of Early Childhood Podcast: involving you in thought-provoking discussions around early childhood. This weekly podcast brings you discussion, reflection, debate and a window into the minds of advocates working with our young leaders of tomorrow.

    Social norms and the power of the adult

    Social norms and the power of the adult

    Researcher Carmela Garcia Manas explains that children are followers, enforcers and creators of social norms. Carmela talks about an important finding from her research of just how highly influenced children are by the presence of the adult.
    To read and listen to the whole research series visit: https://thevoiceofearlychildhood.com/articles/sustainability/
    Tune into next week's episode on: The essential skills for social sustainability 
    If you enjoyed this episode you might also like to listen to Carmela's previous episode with Zanna Clarke, Principal of Miss Daisy’s Nursery Schools, on 'Life skills over academic achievement' - https://thevoiceofearlychildhood.com/life-skills-over-academic-achievement/ 
    Episode break down:
    00:00 - What do children understand of normativity and social norms?
    03:00 - Children as followers, enforcers and creators of social norms
    03:30 - 'Rich' or 'poor table'
    09:05 - Children are highly influenced by the presence of an adult
    14:19 - What does subordination mean?
    16:00 - Conforming to social norms can become dangerous
    19:00 - Children look for fairness
    22:50 - How do we encourage children to question the adult?
    27:00 - Allocating time for reflection
    30:40 - A big change was seen at the end of the research
    32:20 - House swap and property inflation in play!
    36:00 - Value and demand
    36:45 - Children's resourcefulness and adaptability: The sophistication of play
    38:30 - Next episode...
    For more episodes visit The Voice of Early Childhood website: https://www.thevoiceofearlychildhood.com 

    • 40분
    Power dynamics in childhood: Understanding resource possession and social influence

    Power dynamics in childhood: Understanding resource possession and social influence

    Children's understanding of power dynamics are explored through the concept of 'possession as a form of power', in the context of social sustainability. Researcher Carmela Garcia Manas shares her findings in this third episode in a research series around education for social sustainability.
    To read and listen to the whole research series visit: https://thevoiceofearlychildhood.com/articles/sustainability/
    Tune into next week's episode on the impact and power of the adult on children’s actions, and behaviours around social sustainability.
    If you enjoyed this episode you might also like to listen to Carmela's previous episode with Zanna Clarke, Principal of Miss Daisy’s Nursery Schools, on 'Life skills over academic achievement' - https://thevoiceofearlychildhood.com/life-skills-over-academic-achievement/ 
    Episode break down:
    00:00 - What do we mean by possession? 
    03:03 - Unequal distribution of resources 
    04:10 - Children are aware that possession involves power
    05:20 - Scenario 1: In search of food
    11:20 - Decision making is a form of power
    13:15 - Sense of authority and influence
    18:00 - Conformity to roles
    21:38 - Scenario 2: In search of water
    24:20 - Possession affecting the feeling of inclusion
    28:40 - A change in conformity levels
    32:50 - Social sustainability in every day play and routines
    36:20 - Next episode...
    For more episodes visit The Voice of Early Childhood website: https://www.thevoiceofearlychildhood.com 

    • 37분
    Children's perceptions of race and poverty

    Children's perceptions of race and poverty

    Here Carmela shares the first theme uncovered from her findings, centred around children’s perceptions of poverty and race.
    This is the second episode in a research series around education for social sustainability by Carmela Garcia Manas. Carmela is the Headmistress of Miss Daisy’s Chelsea and PhD researcher at University of Dundee. 
    To read and listen to the whole research series visit: https://thevoiceofearlychildhood.com/childrens-perceptions-of-race-and-poverty/
    Tune into next week's episode on theme 2: Children's perceptions of power dynamics in society
    If you enjoyed this episode you might also like to listen to Carmela's previous episode with Zanna Clarke, Principal of Miss Daisy’s Nursery Schools, on 'Life skills over academic achievement' - https://thevoiceofearlychildhood.com/life-skills-over-academic-achievement/ 
    Episode break down:
    00:00 - Exposing children to social issues
    03:40 - Using drama to understand poverty and race
    05:00 - Children from a privileged background
    08:00 - Bridging the gap between play and real life
    09:30 - Children's comments around poverty
    14:20 - What does it feel like to have no water?
    17:40 - Why are books not enough for understanding complex issues?
    21:45 - Introducing challenging topics sensitively 
    23:00 - Racism is socially constructed
    26:00 - Children naturally hold positive views around diversity
    29:45 - What does it feel like not to speak a shared language?
    35:30 - Exposure to diversity is vital
    37:45 - Supporting parents in feeling comfortable to talk about race and poverty
    40:00 - Episode summary
    45:00 - Next episode...
    For more episodes visit The Voice of Early Childhood website: https://www.thevoiceofearlychildhood.com 

    • 46분
    Education for social sustainability through sociodramatic play

    Education for social sustainability through sociodramatic play

    This is the first episode in a research series around education for social sustainability by Carmela Garcia Manas. Carmela is the Headmistress of Miss Daisy’s Chelsea and PhD researcher at University of Dundee, she introduces her PhD research in this episode, and breaks down the findings into several themes in the follow up episodes. 
    To read Carmela's article visit: https://thevoiceofearlychildhood.com/education-for-social-sustainability-through-sociodramatic-play/ 
    Tune into next week's episode on theme 1: Children's perceptions of race and poverty
    If you enjoyed this episode you might also like to listen to Carmela's previous episode with Zanna Clarke, Principal of Miss Daisy’s Nursery Schools, on 'Life skills over academic achievement' - https://thevoiceofearlychildhood.com/life-skills-over-academic-achievement/ 
    Episode break down:
    00:00 - Why did you conduct this research and what was your goal? 
    02:40 - What are the 3 dimensions of sustainability?
    04:10 - Addressing complex issues with children
    05:40 - Are we taking away the innocence of childhood?
    09:00 - Exposing children to new situations
    10:25 - What is sociodramatic play?
    14:00 - Children taking an active role as co-researchers
    15:30 - Seeing childhood as a permanent structure
    16:20 - Fighting for children's rights, social sustainability and social transformation
    18:00 - Sustainability missing from the EYFS
    22:20 - Upskilling educators in social sustainability
    26:00 - Raising future politicians, scientists, educators...
    27:35 - Children's understanding of race
    29:25 - Challenging misconceptions and stereotypes
    30:25 - Empowering children to have a voice and speak out
    31:45 - The context of Carmela's research
    35:10 - Next episode...
    For more episodes visit The Voice of Early Childhood website: https://www.thevoiceofearlychildhood.com 

    • 36분
    What is it like being a man in early childhood?

    What is it like being a man in early childhood?

    This podcast episode is the first in a series focused around men in early years. 
    An honest, reflective account of what it is like for a man to work in early years. Kevin Nelson shares his personal journey, including the honest truths in the podcast episode. Kevin also poses ideas of how we can encourage more men to choose the early years as a career, or even a stepping stone. 
    To read Kevin's article visit: https://thevoiceofearlychildhood.com/what-is-it-like-being-a-man-in-early-childhood/ 
    Support for men:
    To support men in early childhood further, we have partnered with Male Childcare & Teaching Jobs as part of this episode and ongoing podcast series on 'men in early childhood'.
    Male Childcare and Teaching Jobs advocate for greater male participation in education and caregiving roles, offering support and guidance to enhance gender inclusion in nurseries and schools.
    To find out more visit: https://malechildcareandteachingjobs.co.uk/ 
    Listen to more:
    If you enjoyed this episode you might also like to listen to 'Advocacy, agency and rights in early childhood' - https://thevoiceofearlychildhood.com/advocacy-agency-and-rights-in-early-childhood/ 
    Episode break down:
    00:00 - The same questions, the same answers
    01:50 - Are we missing something?
    02:50 - The stigma associated with working in early years
    04:35 - 'I was called a paedophile'
    06:30 - 'Banter' and toxic masculinity
    09:20 - Inside the football changing room: There's no barriers
    10:40 - Skills taken into early years from football
    11:20 - Do we value men in early years for who they are?
    12:35 - The cultural capital you bring with you
    13:40 - Creating unity within the workplace
    15:00 - Similarities between football and early years
    17:00 - Men take longer to mature
    19:10 - What is developmentally appropriate for young men?
    21:00 - The career options with early years
    23:30 - Men being promoted: We need to celebrate this
    25:40 - How can men empathise women if they don't work with them?
    26:20 - Personal growth through working with women
    27:10 - Working with empowering and inspiring women in early years
    30:30 - 'My mum is my absolute hero'
    31:30 - Appreciating and empathising with women
    34:20 - If you want to develop empathy, work in the early years!
    36:40 - Early years gives you a clearer look at life
    38:00 - Giving men safe spaces to be vulnerable and open up
    41:40 - Sharing personal journeys
    43:20 - 'I was told not to change nappies' 
    46:50 - Having to 'prove yourself' as a man in early years
    48:15 - A supportive team around you
    49:25 - So...how DO we recruit more men into early years?
    51:30 - Becoming a first time dad: The lack of support for men
    52:35 - The vast skills men develop from working in early years: Personal and professional
    53:40 - Advocating for men in early years
    56:40 - Having more of these conversations outside of early years too
    For more episodes and articles visit The Voice of Early Childhood website: https://www.thevoiceofearlychildhood.com 

    • 59분
    Life skills over academic achievement

    Life skills over academic achievement

    Do we focus too much on academic success over life skills? This is certainly the case in many prep schools. Zanna Clarke, Principal of Miss Daisy’s Nursery Schools, and Carmela Garcia Manas, Headmistress of Miss Daisy’s Chelsea and PhD researcher at University of Dundee, discuss the challenges they navigate around societal and parental expectations when working in the more privileged areas of London.
    To read Carmela's and Zanna's article visit: https://www.thevoiceofearlychildhood.com 
    If you enjoyed this epside you might also like to listen to Matt Bawler's episode on 'Growth mindset in early childhood' - https://thevoiceofearlychildhood.com/growth-mindset-in-early-childhood/ 
    Episode break down:
    00:00 - Miss Daisy's Nursery Schools
    03:00 - A privileged area of London
    04:50 - Prep schools have quite a formal assessment process
    06:50 - Life skills should be the focus over academic achievement
    09:50 - Early childhood pioneers focused on play based life skills
    11:10 - The ability to adapt requires the development of life skills
    12:00 - We don't know future jobs that might exist
    15:00 - Seeing children as citizens and individuals in their own right
    19:00 - Adults and children as co-constructors of knowledge
    20:50 - A process of mutual transformation
    21:40 - Children need to understand why they are asked to do things
    24:00 - Learning life skills through day to day routines
    26:55 - Involving children in their local community
    31:00 - Blending home and school/nursery
    32:50 - Focusing on the local more than the wider community
    33:45 - Navigating challenges around parent expectations
    36:30 - Knowing where every child needs to be challenged
    For more episodes visit The Voice of Early Childhood website: https://www.thevoiceofearlychildhood.com 

    • 41분

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