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People of the Pod is an award-winning weekly podcast analyzing global affairs through a Jewish lens, brought to you by American Jewish Committee. Host Manya Brachear Pashman examines current events, the people driving them, and what it all means for America, Israel, and the Jewish people.

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People of the Pod is an award-winning weekly podcast analyzing global affairs through a Jewish lens, brought to you by American Jewish Committee. Host Manya Brachear Pashman examines current events, the people driving them, and what it all means for America, Israel, and the Jewish people.

    Seven Months In: What Israelis Think About the War Against Hamas, Campus Antisemitism in America, and More

    Seven Months In: What Israelis Think About the War Against Hamas, Campus Antisemitism in America, and More

    Jacob Magid, U.S. Bureau Chief for the Times of Israel, provides his take on Israel's efforts to destroy Hamas in Gaza, the U.S-Israel relations, the anti-Israel campus protests, the Israeli public’s reaction to rising antisemitism abroad, and the challenges he has faced as a journalist since October 7. 
    Episode Lineup: 
    (0:40) Jacob Magid
    Show Notes:

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    Everything You Need to Know About Rafah, Its Importance to Hamas, and Protecting Its Civilian Population
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    What Does it Mean to be a Jewish American Hero? A Jewish American Heritage Month Conversation with AJC CEO Ted Deutch
    The Chaos at Columbia: What It’s Like to be Jewish on Campus Right Now
    Follow People of the Pod on your favorite podcast app, and learn more at AJC.org/PeopleofthePod
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    Episode Transcript:
    Manya Brachear Pashman: 
    How important is American support for Israel? What message is the protest movement on American college campuses sending to Israel? Jacob Magid: is the U.S. Bureau Chief for The Times of Israel. Our colleagues in Washington D.C. hosted him this week in front of a live audience of about 200 guests. But we had some questions of our own and he joins us now. Jacob, welcome to People of the Pod. 
    Jacob Magid: 
    Hey there, thanks for having me.
    Manya Brachear Pashman: 
    So there have been a lot of reports in the media lately about a strain in US-Israel relations, especially after Biden's announcement of a delay in the transfer of heavy munitions and concerns over Israel’s plans in Rafah. Yet this week, Biden announced that it green-lit the transfer of over $1 billion in new arms for Israel, seemingly quelling any concerns about this rift. But what is your take on the situation? Is there a rift between President Biden and Prime Minister Netanyahu?
    Jacob Magid: 
    It's interesting, because I think in the weeks and months immediately after October 7, support for President Joe Biden was at record highs. As at the same time, support for Donald Trump was plummeting, given the comments that he was making, shortly after October 7, kind of mocking Israel for not being able to foresee what what occurred on the seventh, as opposed to Biden who made this trip right after October 7, sent those aircrafts to the eastern Mediterranean, and warned Israel's adversaries not to get involved in the attack. I think there was real appreciation for what Joe Biden was doing. And I think it's amazing how much seven months can do because we've seen that support for President Biden completely, I'd say, plummet. 
    There was a recent poll taken before this threat. But you can only imagine that it's only going to go down further, showing that now. Whereas earlier in the war, a plurality of Israelis supported President Biden over Trump in another election. Now those numbers have switched back, I think Israelis still do remember the steps Donald Trump took to re-open the Embassy in Jerusalem, to the Abraham Accords, the Golan Heights, all these different steps that he took when he was president. And I think that's more on their minds. And then they compare it to President Biden, they couldn't imagine President Trump taking those kinds of steps that he has taken, a public threat to withhold weapons that's a little bit harder for them to picture. And it's just more fresh on the minds of many Israelis when they're thinking about this current president. 
    But I would note that it's not really clear what President Trump would do in this kind of scenario. I think there are a lot of US officials and Israeli officials I’ve spoken with who say that at least Prime Minister Netanyahu might prefer President Biden to President Trump because he's seen as someone who's more predictable, in regards with his ties with Israel, that while things have

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    What Does it Mean to be a Jewish American Hero? A Jewish American Heritage Month Conversation with AJC CEO Ted Deutch

    What Does it Mean to be a Jewish American Hero? A Jewish American Heritage Month Conversation with AJC CEO Ted Deutch

    AJC CEO Ted Deutch reflects on Jewish American Heritage Month, highlighting the historical contributions of Jewish Americans and discussing the concept of heroism in the face of rising antisemitism. Ted also shares what it means to be a hero today, especially in the wake of 10/7, and who he considers to be among his own heroes. 
    Episode Lineup: 
    (0:40) Ted Deutch
    Show Notes:

    Learn more:
    Join AJC in Celebrating Jewish American Heritage Month
    Quiz: Test your knowledge of the rich culture and heritage of the Jewish people and their many contributions to our nation
    Listen to AJC’s People of the Pod:
    The Chaos at Columbia: What It’s Like to be Jewish on Campus Right Now
    Follow People of the Pod on your favorite podcast app, and learn more at AJC.org/PeopleofthePod
    You can reach us at: peopleofthepod@ajc.org
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    Episode Transcript:
    Manya Brachear Pashman:  
    Amid the recent rise of antisemitism and the unease that brings, we are marking the month of May as Jewish American Heritage Month. This is a time when so many of us in the Jewish community are feeling misunderstood, unwelcome, and confronting hatred. But the American Jewish experience is so much more than standing up to hatred and bigotry. Over the past 370 years, Jewish Americans have served in government, the military, they've won Nobel Prizes, headed universities and corporations, advanced medicine, the arts and justice. Here to celebrate Jewish American Heritage is AJC's CEO Ted Deutch. 
    Ted, welcome back to People of the Pod.
    Ted Deutch:  
    Thank you very much.
    Manya Brachear Pashman:
    Ted, you began serving in Congress in 2010 A few years after a Jewish American Heritage Month was first proclaimed in 2006 Can you tell us a little bit of the history behind Jewish American Heritage or what we like to call JAHM.
    Ted Deutch:  
    Well, Jewish American Heritage Month has been around for almost 20 years. Congress passed a resolution that was led by my former colleague Debbie Wasserman Schultz to acknowledge the important contributions that Jewish Americans have made throughout our history. And in 2006, President George W. Bush designated the month of May to be Jewish American Heritage Month, and there have been presidential proclamations every year since.
    This year, President Biden proclaimed May to be Jewish American Heritage Month and outlined the history of the American Jewish community and the fact that Jewish American culture is so inextricably woven into the fabric of our country. He talked about the importance of Jewish American suffragettes and activists and leaders marching for civil rights and women's rights and voting rights. He talked about the contributions of, of Jewish men and women in uniform and on the Supreme Court. And throughout multiple administrations. It's an acknowledgement that we are really forming an important part of the fabric of this country. And we have to spend time thinking about that, particularly in a moment when so many are really taking positions and saying things that challenge our contributions that are made, and that really put so many of us in the Jewish community on edge, make us feel at risk. This is an important opportunity to really stand proudly as Jewish Americans.
    Manya Brachear Pashman:  
    You know, during the month of March, Women's History Month, I always discover a new role model, a particularly amazing woman that I never knew existed. And the same is often true during Jewish American Heritage Month. But in reverse, I discovered that people whom I always thought to be amazing, and heroes in my book are Jewish. Do you have heroes growing up who you discovered were, or maybe you already knew, were Jewish?
    Ted Deutch:  
    It's interesting. Our community is, I think, always looking to elevate those from our community who make a meaningful impact in society. 
    I re

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    The Chaos at Columbia: What It’s Like to be Jewish on Campus Right Now

    The Chaos at Columbia: What It’s Like to be Jewish on Campus Right Now

    Noa Fay is a Jewish student leader at Columbia University, the epicenter of the anti-Israel protest movement that has unfolded on American college campuses in recent weeks. Pro-Hamas, antisemitic, and anti-Israel demonstrators have occupied academic buildings, set up overnight tent encampments, and staged demonstrations, while Jewish students have faced increasing threats, antisemitism, and violence. Noa shares her first-hand perspective on what it's like to be Jewish on campus right now. 
    *The views and opinions expressed by guests do not necessarily reflect the views or position of AJC.
    Episode Lineup: 
    (0:40) Noa Fay
    Show Notes:

    Learn more:
    WATCH: Press Conference at Columbia/Barnard to Urge Action from University Leadership
    AJC – along with our partners at Hillel International, Columbia/Barnard Hillel, UJA-Federation of New York, and Jewish students – called on universities and their leaders to keep Jewish students safe on their campuses during a press conference last week. Watch the press conference.
    AJC Campus Library
    Resources to help Jewish students feel safe on campus and become well-informed and effective advocates for Israel and the Jewish people
    Listen to AJC’s People of the Pod:
    What It’s Like to Be Jewish at Harvard Among Antisemites and Hamas Supporters
    The Good, the Bad, and the Death Threats: What It’s Like to Be a Jewish College Student Right Now
    Jewish College Student Leaders Share Their Blueprint for Combating Antisemitism
    Follow People of the Pod on your favorite podcast app, and learn more at AJC.org/PeopleofthePod
    You can reach us at: peopleofthepod@ajc.org
    If you’ve appreciated this episode, please be sure to tell your friends, and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts.

    Episode Transcript:
    Manya Brachear Pashman: 
    Nearly seven months since the Hamas-led massacre on Israel that ignited Israel's current war with Hamas, chaos has unfolded on the campuses of Columbia University, Barnard College and other universities across the nation. Most recently, student demonstrators have built tent encampments on university quads and occupied academic buildings. 
    They also have targeted Jewish students with antisemitic signs, slogans and in some cases, physical assaults to protest the war. But that's not all they're protesting. With us to discuss her perspective as a Jewish student leader on campus is Barnard College senior Noa Fay. 
    Noa, welcome to People of the Pod. 
    Noa Fay: 
    Hi, thanks so much for having me.
    Manya Brachear Pashman: 
    Well, thank you for joining us. And I'm sorry that you have been experiencing this on campus in recent weeks. We've seen plenty of images from the chaos there. But can you describe it from your vantage point, kind of walking through the crowds and seeing it up close? What do you see? What do you hear?
    Noa Fay: 
    It’s important to understand not only the amount of antisemitism, and that sort of violence that we're seeing–which has been incredibly painful, really, for every Jewish student at this point, I really believe I mean, it's just been absolutely horrifying. 
    You know, I mean, it's pogrom style stuff that we're seeing. It has felt like now that everybody is affected, people are taking this seriously. But in reality, the Jewish students, we've been dealing with this literally since October 7, and it's taken up until now to even seem to get somebody's attention. 
    So I think it's important to understand that, when I talk about this chaos, what I'm really thinking of is– there is, first of all, just so much press everywhere, which is just a bunch of people that are really swarming everyone and, you know, up and down Broadway, it's very disorienting. 
    But more importantly, on top of that, we have a very significant police presence. I mean, it really is a police state. I can't even get to certain dining halls. I can't study in certain libraries. I can't get to my own gym. I mean, it's a really, really cha

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    Her Mother-In-Law Was Murdered at Tree of Life: Now Marnie Fienberg is Countering Antisemitism One Seder at a Time

    Her Mother-In-Law Was Murdered at Tree of Life: Now Marnie Fienberg is Countering Antisemitism One Seder at a Time

    Ancient texts, traditional foods, and friends and family: the markers of many Passover tables across America. But what if you added something new–or rather, someone new?
    Marnie Fienberg founded 2ForSeder, a program to combat antisemitism and honor her mother-in-law, Joyce Feinberg, who was one of the 11 victims murdered inside Tree of Life. The initiative is simple: extend a Seder invite to two people of another faith, who have never been to a Seder before, to build bridges and spread Jewish joy.
    Episode Lineup: 
    (0:40) Marnie Fienberg
    Show Notes:
    Learn more:
    2ForSeder.org
    Listen to AJC’s People of the Pod:
    What the Iranian Regime’s Massive Attack Means for Israel and the Region
    Meet Modi Rosenfeld – the Comedian Helping the Jewish Community Laugh Again
    A Look Back: AJC’s Award-Winning “Remembering Pittsburgh” Series
    Jewish College Student Leaders Share Their Blueprint for Combating Antisemitism
    Follow People of the Pod on your favorite podcast app, and learn more at AJC.org/PeopleofthePod
    You can reach us at: peopleofthepod@ajc.org
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    Episode Transcript:
    Manya Brachear Pashman:
    A few weeks ago, we re-aired excerpts from our award winning series Remembering Pittsburgh, which marked five years since the 2018 shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue. One of our guests in that series has returned today. Marnie Feinberg founded 2ForSeder, an initiative to honor her mother in law, Joyce Feinberg, who was one of the 11 victims murdered inside Tree of Life. As we approach Passover, Marnie is with us now to share why there's no time like the present to invite first timers to the Seder table, a superb way to introduce people to the beauty of Judaism, like Joyce often did. Marnie, thank you for joining us again. 
    Marnie Fienberg:  
    Thank you so much for having me. 
    Manya Brachear Pashman:
    So we spoke a little about this project, when you joined us last fall. We have a little more time now to unpack why this initiative is such a meaningful way to preserve Joyce's legacy. Can you tell us about her Seders?
    Marnie Fienberg:  
    My mother in law as most mothers and mother in laws, she trained me on how to actually hold the Seder. So as you know, holding the Seder is almost like your second bat mitzvah, it's a rite of passage. And it's also a very important thing that, you know, not only are you trained to do it, but you have to incorporate things from, if you have a partner or from their family, you incorporate things from your own life to your family traditions. And all that kind of comes together in this wonderful magical night that is really grounded in the Haggadah. 
    But Joyce was of course instrumental and teaching me my mother lives kind of far away. And Joyce and I actually did Seders together for more than a decade. And they started at her house and gradually kind of came over to my house. But she really she helped me every single step of the way, to the point where when she wasn't there anymore, I almost didn't know how to do it. And I'm every time I'm thinking about the Seder and making a Seder. It's it's with her in my head as it has to be. But I still, you know, all of the traditions that she taught me we still utilize those once again, combined with the ones that I learned from my own family and she is a vise still a vibrant part of our personal Seder.
    Manya Brachear Pashman:  
    So was Joyce in your head still when you found 2ForSeder? 
    Marnie Fienberg:  
    Oh, absolutely. Well, I am a Jewish woman. And I can't sit still. I need to do something. We have tikkun olam kind of almost in our DNA. Yes. So I really wanted to not only bring her back, which I think is a natural sort of a feeling. But I also wanted to push back on all of the antisemitism that had removed her from my life. 
    And people were constantly coming up to me, I mean, the commun

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    What the Iranian Regime’s Massive Attack Means for Israel and the Region

    What the Iranian Regime’s Massive Attack Means for Israel and the Region

    AJC Jerusalem director Lt. Col. (res.) Avital Leibovich shares how the IDF — and its neighbors and allies — defended Israel with remarkable success. In the early hours of April 14, sirens and explosions were heard across the Jewish state. In an unprecedented, first-ever direct attack on the Israeli people, the Iranian regime launched a wave of more than 300 drones and missiles. 
    Episode Lineup: 
    (0:40) Avital Leibovich
    Show Notes:
    Take Action:

    Join AJC in urging Congress to call on the EU to designate all of Hezbollah and the IRGC as terror organizations.

    Read AJC’s Explainers on Iran:
    Get the Facts About Iran’s Unprecedented Attack on Israel
    ‘Crimes Against Humanity:’ Another UN Report Finds Sexual Violence by IRGC and Other Authorities in Iran; Similar to Crimes by Hamas
    What is Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and Why is it Designated a Terror Group by the United States?
    Listen to AJC’s People of the Pod on the Israel-Hamas War:
    Meet Modi Rosenfeld – the Comedian Helping the Jewish Community Laugh Again
    A Look Back: AJC’s Award-Winning “Remembering Pittsburgh” Series
    Jewish College Student Leaders Share Their Blueprint for Combating Antisemitism
    Matisyahu’s Message to His Fellow Jews and to the Israel Haters Trying to Cancel Him
    Follow People of the Pod on your favorite podcast app, and learn more at AJC.org/PeopleofthePod
    You can reach us at: peopleofthepod@ajc.org
    If you’ve appreciated this episode, please be sure to tell your friends, and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts.

    Episode Transcript:
    Manya Brachear Pashman:  
    Few of us slept well on Saturday night into Sunday knowing that Iran had launched a wave of more than 300 drones and missiles in its first ever direct attack on Israel. In the early hours of Sunday, sirens and explosions were heard across the Jewish state. Here to talk about how Israel definit itself from what many feared was inevitable, Director of AJC Jerusalem Avital Leibovich, who also serves in the Israel Defence Force Reserves. 
    Avital Leibovich:
    Thank you.
    Manya Brachear Pashman:  
    So can you share with our listeners what it was like to hear that Iran had launched this wave of missiles and drones? Did Israelis immediately pack up and head for shelters?
    Avital Leibovich:
    I think that was one of the most dramatic nights in Israel's history. You know, we're living in an era in which everything is televised and broadcasted. And when those drones have been launched from Iran, that has been broadcasted. So you can imagine millions of Israelis sitting at home, counting the hours until those drones will hit the Israeli airspace. In addition to that there was a lot of uncertainty of which type of drones we're talking about, what kind of explosives will they carry? Will they make it or not? And also, will these drones be accompanied by other weapons? So yes, there was huge concern. It was a sleepless night, sometimes between 2am until seven in the morning, Israel has been paralyzed with this unprecedented attack. Now 200 drones that have been fired at the same time to Israel. This is something that the world have never, ever experienced, there was never a country in the world that has been attacked simultaneously by 200 drones. 
    Manya Brachear Pashman:  
    Well, we also know that there were in addition to drones, there were ballistic missiles, there were cruise missiles. And we know that some of those ballistic missiles could have been fitted with nuclear warheads. And certainly, we know Iran's nuclear capability has been developing rapidly for more than a decade. Was that a concern?
    Avital Leibovich:
    Look,unlike terror groups, you know, they rely on funding of different countries, proxies and so on. Iran is a country with its own budget with its own economic means, and has been investing in technologies and procurement and development of weapons of different kinds for decades. So we saw some of th

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    Meet Modi Rosenfeld – the Comedian Helping the Jewish Community Laugh Again

    Meet Modi Rosenfeld – the Comedian Helping the Jewish Community Laugh Again

    Israeli-American Comedian Modi Rosenfeld, who took part in the inaugural AJC’s Voices Against Antisemitism Campaign, just-released a stand-up comedy special, Know Your Audience, which reflects a principle he has always subscribed to. But what happens when you know your audience is suffering a trauma like no other? Listen to this conversation with Modi, who was in Israel on October 7, on how he jokes about antisemitism and what he sees as his mission in this difficult moment: helping the Jewish community laugh again.
    Episode Lineup: 
    (0:40) Modi Rosenfeld
    Show Notes:
    Learn more:
    AJC's Voices Against Antisemitism: Meet the Celebrities Standing Up for the Jewish People and Israel
    modilive.com

    Photo Credits:
    John Cafaro
    Credits – Standup Clips:
    On Antisemitism
    Jewish Boyfriend
    Listen – People of the Pod on the Israel-Hamas War:
    A Look Back: AJC’s Award-Winning “Remembering Pittsburgh” Series
    Jewish College Student Leaders Share Their Blueprint for Combating Antisemitism
    Matisyahu’s Message to His Fellow Jews and to the Israel Haters Trying to Cancel Him
    Unheard, Until Now: How Israeli Women Are Powering Israel’s Resilience
    Follow People of the Pod on your favorite podcast app, and learn more at AJC.org/PeopleofthePod
    You can reach us at: peopleofthepod@ajc.org
    If you’ve appreciated this episode, please be sure to tell your friends, and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts.
    Transcript of Episode with Modi:
    Manya Brachear Pashman:  
    Comedian Modi Rosenfeld, known by his fans as simply Modi, is nearing the end of a live national tour, co-hosts his own podcast, and he recently released his first televised stand-up comedy special titled Know Your Audience. It’s a principle the Israeli-American comedian has always subscribed to. But what happens when you know your audience is suffering a trauma like no other. Here with us to talk about how we can and why we should laugh again is Modi Rosenfeld. 
    Modi, welcome to People of the Pod.
    Modi:  
    Hi, People of the Pod.
    Manya Brachear Pashman:  
    You were born in Tel Aviv and grew up on Long Island. Tell us how you found your way to comedy. 
    Modi:  
    I was actually just doing investment banking. And I used to imitate the secretaries. And my friends said this is really funny, you should do it on stage. And they set up an open mic night. And that was about 30 something years ago. And that's how the comedy began.
    Manya Brachear Pashman:  
    The special that I mentioned was filmed nearly a year ago. It was filmed before the Hamas terrorist attack and the war. You talk about COVID, you talk about marrying your millennial husband, you talk about Shabbat elevators. I'm curious if you do feel like the material still resonates in the current climate? 
    Modi:  
    Ever since October 7, I've been doing my shows and not mentioning the war itself. Until the very end where I sing Hatikva with the audience. I feel like the audience needs a moment to just laugh and not think about the war. And not think about what's happening in Israel and just have a laugh about being Jewish, being Jewish, about non-Jewish people. 
    Sometimes I tell the story about how I was October 7, while I was in Israel. And then sing Hatikva with the audience, people seem to, they're very touched and moved by it. And it reminds them, now, let's just remember where our hearts and where our prayers and where our thoughts are.
    Manya Brachear Pashman:  
    So let's talk about where you were on October 7.
    Modi:  
    The war began at the end of the holiday of Sukkot and I was in Israel. I had six shows, sold out shows in Israel that were absolutely amazing. One of the highlights of my career. Thursday was the last show. Friday we were there for Shabbat and Saturday we were scheduled to fly out to Paris to do four shows there. And obviously Saturday morning, the alarms went off and the bombs went off. 
    We were staying at the Setai Hotel, whi

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