Future of Life Institute Podcast Future of Life Institute

Anton Korinek joins the podcast to discuss the effects of automation on wages and labor, how we measure the complexity of tasks, the economics of an intelligence explosion, and the market structure of the AI industry. Learn more about Anton's work at https://www.korinek.com  

Timestamps: 

00:00 Automation and wages 

14:32 Complexity for people and machines 

20:31 Moravec's paradox 

26:15 Can people switch careers?  

30:57 Intelligence explosion economics 

44:08 The lump of labor fallacy  

51:40 An industry for nostalgia?  

57:16 Universal basic income  

01:09:28 Market structure in AI

Christian Ruhl joins the podcast to discuss US-China competition and the risk of war, official versus unofficial diplomacy, hotlines between countries, catastrophic biological risks, ultraviolet germicidal light, and ancient civilizational collapse. Find out more about Christian's work at https://www.founderspledge.com  

Timestamps: 

00:00 US-China competition and risk  

18:01 The security dilemma  

30:21 Official and unofficial diplomacy 

39:53 Hotlines between countries  

01:01:54 Preventing escalation after war  

01:09:58 Catastrophic biological risks  

01:20:42 Ultraviolet germicidal light 

01:25:54 Ancient civilizational collapse

Christian Nunes joins the podcast to discuss deepfakes, how they impact women in particular, how we can protect ordinary victims of deepfakes, and the current landscape of deepfake legislation. You can learn more about Christian's work at https://now.org and about the Ban Deepfakes campaign at https://bandeepfakes.org 

Timestamps:

00:00 The National Organisation for Women (NOW) 

05:37 Deepfakes and women 

10:12 Protecting ordinary victims of deepfakes 

16:06 Deepfake legislation 

23:38 Current harm from deepfakes 

30:20 Bodily autonomy as a right 

34:44 NOW's work on AI 

Here's FLI's recommended amendments to legislative proposals on deepfakes: 

https://futureoflife.org/document/recommended-amendments-to-legislative-proposals-on-deepfakes/

Dan Faggella joins the podcast to discuss whether humanity should eventually create AGI, how AI will change power dynamics between institutions, what drives AI progress, and which industries are implementing AI successfully. Find out more about Dan at https://danfaggella.com Timestamps: 00:00 Value differences in AI 12:07 Should we eventually create AGI? 28:22 What is a worthy successor? 43:19 AI changing power dynamics 59:00 Open source AI 01:05:07 What drives AI progress? 01:16:36 What limits AI progress? 01:26:31 Which industries are using AI?

Liron Shapira joins the podcast to discuss superintelligence goals, what makes AI different from other technologies, risks from centralizing power, and whether AI can defend us from AI. Timestamps: 00:00 Intelligence as optimization-power 05:18 Will LLMs imitate human values? 07:15 Why would AI develop dangerous goals? 09:55 Goal-completeness 12:53 Alignment to which values? 22:12 Is AI just another technology? 31:20 What is FOOM? 38:59 Risks from centralized power 49:18 Can AI defend us against AI? 56:28 An Apollo program for AI safety 01:04:49 Do we only have one chance? 01:07:34 Are we living in a crucial time? 01:16:52 Would superintelligence be fragile? 01:21:42 Would human-inspired AI be safe?

Annie Jacobsen joins the podcast to lay out a second by second timeline for how nuclear war could happen. We also discuss time pressure, submarines, interceptor missiles, cyberattacks, and concentration of power. You can find more on Annie's work at https://anniejacobsen.com Timestamps: 00:00 A scenario of nuclear war 06:56 Who would launch an attack? 13:50 Detecting nuclear attacks 19:37 The first critical seconds 29:42 Decisions under time pressure 34:27 Lessons from insiders 44:18 Submarines 51:06 How did we end up like this? 59:40 Interceptor missiles 1:11:25 Nuclear weapons and cyberattacks 1:17:35 Concentration of power