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Do you hate working as a lawyer? Are you an unhappy lawyer who wants to leave the law, but isn't sure what to do next? Do your family and friends think you're crazy for wanting to leave the law, or are you too afraid to tell them you don't want to be a lawyer? The Former Lawyer Podcast is for you! Each week, host Sarah Cottrell interviews a different former lawyer who has left the law behind. Hear inspiring stories about how these former lawyers are thriving and found their way to careers and lives they love.

The Former Lawyer Podcast Sarah Cottrell

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Do you hate working as a lawyer? Are you an unhappy lawyer who wants to leave the law, but isn't sure what to do next? Do your family and friends think you're crazy for wanting to leave the law, or are you too afraid to tell them you don't want to be a lawyer? The Former Lawyer Podcast is for you! Each week, host Sarah Cottrell interviews a different former lawyer who has left the law behind. Hear inspiring stories about how these former lawyers are thriving and found their way to careers and lives they love.

    Why Entertainment Law Isn't the Escape You Might Think with Jordan Nahmias

    Why Entertainment Law Isn't the Escape You Might Think with Jordan Nahmias

    Sarah sees many clients who change careers within the law, like becoming in-house lawyers, but at the end of the day, they are still lawyers. When people think that switching to entertainment law will be a fun and exciting change, it’s important to step back and ask some more questions.
    Today’s podcast episode features a conversation with Jordan Nahmias. Jordan used to practice law as an entertainment lawyer and is now a coach and strategist in Toronto, Canada. He talks about his experience and his path out of law. Many people consider exploring this area when thinking about leaving the law.
    See show notes at formerlawyer.com/228
     

    • 45 min
    How to Decide if Now is the Right Time to Leave Law

    How to Decide if Now is the Right Time to Leave Law

    In today’s podcast episode, Sarah addresses a question that many people start asking themselves when the economy is unstable: Is now really the right time to consider leaving the law?
    Layoffs and challenging circumstances can add an added layer of stress and concern when it comes to changing industries and leaving your job. Sarah shares some thoughts and advice about these concerns and questions. 
    See show notes at formerlawyer.com/227
     

    • 10 min
    Separating Your Identity From Your Legal Career

    Separating Your Identity From Your Legal Career

    In today’s podcast episode, Sarah chats with one of her one-on-one clients, Ann Marie Cowdrey.
    She has had a lot of experience working for regional and international law firms throughout her career. She hit a rough patch and thought it was time for a chance, so she started working with Sarah.
    Today, she’s sharing her experience in law and how she flipped things around.
    See show notes at formerlawyer.com/226
     

    • 56 min
    Understanding Burnout Versus Depression In Lawyers And How To Get Support

    Understanding Burnout Versus Depression In Lawyers And How To Get Support

    Many lawyers find themselves asking, “Am I depressed, or am I burnt out?” This comes up when they are thinking about leaving the law, and it’s not a new topic on the podcast. In the episode where Sarah spoke to Ilona Salmons, they did a deep dive into burnout and what it is. Mental health is a common topic brought up in the Former Lawyer community, and many lawyers deal with misery by intellectualizing things. Today, Sarah is revisiting this topic and sharing a few important thoughts.
    Sarah often talks about therapy on the podcast. It is extremely helpful if you feel burned out or depressed. Engage a qualified mental health therapist to work with. They can help you evaluate what’s going on in your mind in your life with some objectivity and clinical expertise. 
    See show notes at formerlawyer.com/225
     

    • 8 min
    Finding an Empowering Path Back to Creative Work from Law with Lynley Ogilvie

    Finding an Empowering Path Back to Creative Work from Law with Lynley Ogilvie

    On today’s podcast episode, Sarah chats with Lynley Ogilvie about her career pivot. She left her job as a lawyer to become a landscape designer. The conversation was exciting, and her path was unique compared to other guests on the podcast. Lynley lives just outside of Washington, DC, and she has her own landscape design firm. 
    See show notes at formerlawyer.com/224
     

    • 39 min
    Why You Shouldn't Feel Guilty if You Hate Being a Lawyer

    Why You Shouldn't Feel Guilty if You Hate Being a Lawyer

    Today’s podcast topic was sparked by a recent call for the Guided Track Sarah is facilitating this spring. This program is designed to assist lawyers in navigating their career paths and offers a safe space for self-reflection. It helps individuals determine if leaving the law is the right choice for them and guides them toward their next steps. The program fosters a close-knit community where participants can share their experiences, exchange ideas, and support each other through the process, providing a sense of camaraderie and accountability.
    The discussion centered around a common yet often unspoken experience of guilt when one doesn’t enjoy being a lawyer. This feeling of guilt can be pervasive, making one feel like they’re complaining, even when they perceive their situation to be better than others. Sarah has talked about this before on the podcast, so obviously, it’s a topic that comes up often and is important to re-address.

    • 7 min

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