60 episodes

Singer-songwriter Michaela Anne & producer Aaron Shafer-Haiss host conversations with different Grammy winning, Platinum-selling, and long-haul career artists each week about the tools and routines they've found most helpful in maintaining their creativity, inspiration, and sanity while navigating a career around their art.

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Singer-songwriter Michaela Anne & producer Aaron Shafer-Haiss host conversations with different Grammy winning, Platinum-selling, and long-haul career artists each week about the tools and routines they've found most helpful in maintaining their creativity, inspiration, and sanity while navigating a career around their art.

    Tyler Ramsey on finding the right venue, patience in waves, and release releases.

    Tyler Ramsey on finding the right venue, patience in waves, and release releases.

    Tyler Ramsey - former guitar player for Band of Horses - has released 5 solo albums before, during, and after his stint in the band. We got to chat with Tyler about everything from surfing the seasons of creativity with patience and acceptance, his decision making process behind both joining Band of Horses (leaving a solo career) and leaving the band (private jets, selling out arenas all over the world), finding the right venue for your music, not just your ego, demonstrating a creative life path to your children, and so much more.

    • 45 min
    The Secret Sisters on leveling out, non-linear trajectories, and play.

    The Secret Sisters on leveling out, non-linear trajectories, and play.

    The Secret Sisters are a Grammy-nominated (sister) duo from Alabama who have put out 5 records, and navigated a rollercoaster of highs and lows from being signed to Universal records and produced by T Bone Burnett, getting dropped, to lawsuits with a manager, bankruptcy, opening for (and being produced by) Brandi Carlisle, and onto a Grammy nomination. We talk about that ride, the lessons learned and experience earned, motherhood, doing the hard internal work and how that improves your creativity, putting the play back in music, and more.

    • 49 min
    The Brother Brothers on authenticity, autonomy and validation, and traveling.

    The Brother Brothers on authenticity, autonomy and validation, and traveling.

    The Brother Brothers are identical twins who have released 5 records together, as well as touring/collaborating with Courtney Marie Andrews, Lake Street Dive, Big Thief, Sarah Jarosz, Keb Mo and being part of the early incarnations of Hadestown the musical. We chat with them about how authenticity lasts in this industry, the theory that everyone (musician/artist) just needs autonomy and validation, following the momentum, economics, and we share some good old tour horror stories.

    • 49 min
    Guster on running toward fear, trying to fail, and green lights.

    Guster on running toward fear, trying to fail, and green lights.

    Guster formed in 1991, and has since released 9 records, had a Top 40 hit, a gold record, played Woodstock 99, started the label Ocho Mule, and is still growing today. We sat down with lead singer Ryan Miller, who is also a film composer, sometimes writer for The Atlantic, budding Broadway composer/writer and a former host on Vermont Public TV. We talk with Ryan about managing so many spinning plates, running towards fear, parallels between a music career and entrepreneurship (iterating, failing, learning, improving, and then repeating), managing personalities and wants over a 33-year career, and so much more.

    • 1 hr 3 min
    Rissi Palmer on the year of no, speaking for the voiceless, and making the appointment.

    Rissi Palmer on the year of no, speaking for the voiceless, and making the appointment.

    Rissi Palmer signed her first record deal at 19, with her debut in 2007 she was the first black woman to make the country music charts in over 2 decades, she has toured with the likes of Taylor Swift, and the Eagles, appeared on Oprah, Good Morning America, at the White House, the Grand Ole Opry, and Lincoln Center, is the host of Apple Music's 'Color Me Country', and the director of the Color Me Country Artist Grant Fund. We talk about one of our favorite topics - saying no, prioritizing self care, speaking for those people who cannot speak for themselves, the music business as a meritocracy (ahem) and a whole lot more.

    • 46 min
    Ana Egge on co-writing with your dreams, meditation practice, and skateboarding.

    Ana Egge on co-writing with your dreams, meditation practice, and skateboarding.

    Ana Egge - who Lucinda Williams calls 'the folk music Nina Simone' - has released 13+ records, starting with her first in 1994, and including some produced by Steve Earle, is a luthier, and has toured with John Prine, Shawn Colvin, Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Ron Sexmith, Lucinda, and Iris Dement amongst others. In one of our more intriguingly esoteric conversations, we talk a lot about meditation practice and how that influences your creativity and approach to your career as a whole, as well as how Ana stumbled across her incredible practice of co-writing with her own dreams!

    • 41 min

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