30 episodes

"Insurance Unplugged," offers a candid look behind the scenes of the insurance industry. Host Lisa Wardlaw brings a wealth of experience from numerous C-suite roles, including CFO, COO, CSO, and Chief Digital Officer within the insurance sector. She interviews C-suite guests about the real #nohype practical matters in insurance from applying AI to cutting through the fog on developing trends for the insurance industry at large.

Insurance Unplugged with Lisa Wardlaw Lisa Wardlaw

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"Insurance Unplugged," offers a candid look behind the scenes of the insurance industry. Host Lisa Wardlaw brings a wealth of experience from numerous C-suite roles, including CFO, COO, CSO, and Chief Digital Officer within the insurance sector. She interviews C-suite guests about the real #nohype practical matters in insurance from applying AI to cutting through the fog on developing trends for the insurance industry at large.

    In the Hot Seat with Rama Venkat

    In the Hot Seat with Rama Venkat

    Summary:

    Rama Venkat, CTO and Chief Data Scientist of Charlie.ai, discusses the role of AI and NLP in the insurance industry. He shares his background in AI and machine learning and how he got involved in the insurance domain.

    Rama explains the difference between traditional AI and generative AI, highlighting the advancements in computing power that have enabled the development of large language models (LLMs). He emphasizes the importance of selecting the right LLMs and training them on specific insurance data.

    Rama also discusses the need for a holistic solution beyond LLMs, including workflow, process, and orchestration. He shares examples of effective use cases, such as claims summarization and predictions, and emphasizes the importance of ethical and effective use of AI in the industry.



    Takeaways:

    Selecting the right LLMs and training them on specific insurance data is crucial for effective use of AI in the industry.

    A holistic solution beyond LLMs is necessary, including workflow, process, and orchestration.

    Claims summarization and predictions are effective use cases for AI in the insurance industry.

    Ethical and effective use of AI is important, and regulations should be set in place to ensure responsible use.

    AI is here to stay, and embracing it is essential to avoid being left behind.



    Chapters:

    00:00 Introduction and Background

    04:23 Traditional AI vs. Generative AI

    11:23 The Role of LLMs in Insurance

    23:54 Building a Holistic Solution Beyond LLMs

    29:08 Effective Use Cases: Claims Summarization and Predictions

    34:06 Ethical and Effective Use of AI

    37:06 Embracing AI in the Insurance Industry



    Sound Bites:

    "AI is not gonna take away your job, but the person using AI, ethically and effectively will take away your job."

    "Don't be left behind. It's here. Organize it, leverage it, understand it, partner with people that understand it."



    Keywords:

    AI, NLP, insurance industry, traditional AI, generative AI, LLMs, claims summarization, predictions, workflow, process, orchestration, ethical use of AI

    • 38 min
    In the Hot Seat with Jeff Saviano

    In the Hot Seat with Jeff Saviano

    Summary

    In this episode of Insurance Unplugged, host Lisa Wardlaw interviews Jeff Saviano, an expert in emerging technology strategy and governance. They discuss the importance of AI governance and ethics in the business world. Jeff explains that many organizations have adopted responsible AI principles, but there is a need for executable frameworks and real actions. They also explore how boards are thinking about AI governance and the challenges they face in understanding and managing AI risks. Jeff emphasizes the importance of board composition and the need for citizen representatives to provide diverse perspectives. He concludes by highlighting the role of governance in enabling innovation and responsible AI use.



    Keywords

    AI governance, AI ethics, responsible AI principles, AI risks, board composition, citizen representatives, innovation



    Takeaways

    Many organizations have adopted responsible AI principles, but there is a need for executable frameworks and real actions.

    Boards are thinking about AI governance and the challenges they face in understanding and managing AI risks.

    Board composition matters, and there is a need for citizen representatives to provide diverse perspectives.

    Governance enables innovation and responsible AI use.



    Titles

    The Importance of AI Governance and Ethics

    Enabling Innovation and Responsible AI Use



    Sound Bites

    "What is the boundary of tolerance that you have as a board, that you have as an institution to data privacy?"

    "Put a citizen representative on every board. Wouldn't the world be a better place?"

    "Good governance will enable innovation and won't stifle it. Like brakes, they'll allow us to go faster, but to do it responsibly."



    Chapters

    00:00

    Introduction and Background

    04:46

    AI Governance Frameworks and Principles

    10:52

    Boards and AI Governance

    27:59

    AI's Impact on Risk Assessment

    35:33

    Behavioral Psychology and Governance

    38:53

    Wrap-up and Call to Action

    • 41 min
    In The Hot Seat with Anil Vasagiri

    In The Hot Seat with Anil Vasagiri

    Summary:

    In this episode of Insurance Unplugged, Lisa Wardlaw interviews Anil Vasagiri, SVP and Head of Property Solutions at Swiss Re, about the transformative opportunities and challenges of AI in the insurance industry. They discuss the potential of AI in extreme event modeling, behavioral sciences, and generative AI.

    They also explore the integration of AI with other technologies, such as IoT, blockchain, and federated learning. Anil emphasizes the importance of data quality and the need for organizations to rethink their tech stack and data strategy. He encourages the industry to be open to experimentation and to focus on quality over quantity when it comes to data.



    Takeaways:

    AI has transformative potential in the insurance industry, particularly in areas such as extreme event modeling and behavioral sciences.

    The integration of AI with other technologies, such as IoT, blockchain, and federated learning, requires organizations to rethink their tech stack and data strategy.

    Data quality is crucial for obtaining accurate and reliable insights from AI.

    Organizations should be open to experimentation and willing to test out new technologies and approaches.

    Focusing on quality over quantity when it comes to data can lead to more impactful outcomes.



    Chapters:

    00:00 Introduction and Background

    03:44 Transformative Opportunities and Challenges of AI in Insurance

    09:34 Integrating AI with IoT, Blockchain, and Federated Learning

    14:05 Rethinking Tech Stack and Data Strategy for AI Implementation

    24:02 Embracing Experimentation and Testing in the Insurance Industry



    Sound Bites:

    "AI no doubt as you've described, right, is a tech that has truly transformation potential and it has already had quite some material impact on different facets of insurance value chain and it'll continue to have an outsized impact going forward."

    "Any use case that has a human in the loop is a fair game, right? So if you look across end to end within the spectrum of your business processes, whether it's a question of dealing with high velocity, high volume data streams and sort of, or it is computationally intensive, a very structured, structure is probably not right the way."

    "For a long time when people talked about data strategy, it was always quantity, right? So I have like these 450 attributes I'm looking at or 3000 attributes or leave alone the fact that many of these attributes that you have, are they current or are they stale? What really is the quality consistency across?"



    Keywords:

    AI, insurance industry, extreme event modeling, behavioral sciences, generative AI, integration, IoT, blockchain, federated learning, data quality, tech stack, data strategy

    • 32 min
    In the Hot Seat with Pranav Pasricha

    In the Hot Seat with Pranav Pasricha

    Summary:

    In this episode of Insurance Unplugged, Lisa Wardlaw interviews Pranav Pasaricha, the founder and CEO of BluePond.ai. They discuss Pranav's background in the insurance industry and his journey in creating technology, specifically machine learning-enabled technology, for insurance and reinsurance. They also explore the challenges in the insurance industry, such as fragmented customer experiences and slow technology adoption, and how BluePond.ai aims to address these challenges with its end-to-end solution. Pranav emphasizes the importance of providing frictionless and value-driven solutions to clients, and the need for vendors to have skin in the game. In this conversation, Lisa Wardlaw and Pranav discuss the importance of treating every dollar entrepreneurially, the unique business model of GEN.AI, and the role of AI in enabling decision-making. They also explore the concept of dynamic data exchange and the need for automation in the insurance industry. Pranav shares his thoughts on the hype around AI and provides a call to action for the industry to embrace true automation. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the speed and cost-effectiveness of implementing AI solutions.



    Takeaways:

    Pranav Pasaricha has almost 20 years of experience in the insurance industry and has worked across the globe.

    BluePond.ai is a technology company that focuses on creating machine learning-enabled solutions for insurance and reinsurance.

    The insurance industry faces challenges such as fragmented customer experiences and slow technology adoption.

    BluePond.ai aims to address these challenges by providing an end-to-end solution that is frictionless and value-driven.

    Pranav emphasizes the importance of vendors having skin in the game and guaranteeing results for their clients. Treat every dollar entrepreneurially, regardless of its size.

    GEN.AI offers a unique business model that focuses on solving business problems and enabling decision-making.

    Dynamic data exchange is crucial for true automation and unlocking value in the insurance industry.

    The industry should shift its focus from digitization to automation.

    AI is not a hype, but there are exaggerated promises surrounding it.

    Implementing AI solutions can be faster and cheaper than expected.



    Chapters:

    00:00 Introduction and Background

    03:23 Inception of BluePond.ai

    07:41 Building an End-to-End Solution

    10:27 The Importance of Frictionless and Value-Driven Solutions

    13:05 Rethinking Insurance with Gen AI

    22:53 Treating Every Dollar Entrepreneurially

    25:21 Enabling Decision-Making through AI

    29:24 Shifting Focus from Digitization to Automation

    33:00 AI: Not a Hype, but Exaggerated Promises

    38:43 Faster and Cheaper Implementation of AI Solutions



    Sound Bites:

    "I remember looking at you and you were kind of looking at me and I was like, wait, you're taking your level of thinking to like a whole nother visionary level."

    "We talk about distribution, first of all, being the part of the value chain that was ignored for so long in this whole digitalization."

    "We were going to build our own broker, but it's better that we build this as a tech company and sell this to all our, sell this to the broker."

    "Like money is money no matter how big or how small, it's still actual money and to treat every dollar entrepreneurially as though it's your own."

    "We're gonna actually come at this from solving a business problem for the business, and then we're going to get into a monetization split."

    "What should true AI guided decision-making look like in today's world?"



    Keywords:

    insurance, technology, machine learning, BluePond.ai, challenges, solutions, end-to-end, frictionless, value-driven, skin in the game, entrepreneurship, business model, AI, decision-making, dynamic data exchange, automation, insurance industry

    • 38 min
    In the Hot Seat with John Standish

    In the Hot Seat with John Standish

    Summary:
    John Standish, Chief Innovation and Compliance Officer at Charlee.ai, discusses the intersection of AI ethics and insurance. He highlights the six pillars of ethical AI in the insurance industry: factual, accurate, explainable, articulate, transparent and testable.
    Standish emphasizes the importance of training AI to eliminate bias and ensure compliance with regulations. He also shares examples of how Charlee.ai's AI solutions are being applied in insurance, such as predicting claim severity, identifying fraud schemes, and mitigating litigation. Standish calls on the industry to identify gaps in the claims process and explore the power of AI while staying compliant and transparent.

    Takeaways:
    The six pillars of ethical AI in the insurance industry are factual, accurate, explainable, articulate, transparent and testable.
    Training AI to eliminate bias and comply with regulations is crucial for ethical AI implementation.
    AI can be applied in insurance to predict claim severity, identify fraud schemes, and mitigate litigation.
    The industry should identify gaps in the claims process and explore the power of AI while staying compliant and transparent.
    The talent gap in the industry can be addressed by properly training AI to capture the knowledge and processes of experienced professionals.

    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction and Background
    04:00 The Six Pillars of Ethical AI in Insurance
    22:00 Examples of AI Solutions in Insurance
    26:59 Addressing the Talent Gap with AI
    32:01 Conclusion

    Sound Bites:
    "You can't know everything, but you need to know how to think."
    "There is no such thing as a black box in AI. It's a glass box."
    "The AI must be transparent so the practitioner and end user can understand how it works and how the user can arrive at their decision."

    Keywords:
    AI ethics, insurance, six pillars, transparency, accuracy, explainability, articulation, testability, bias, compliance, claim severity, fraud schemes, litigation, talent gap

    • 32 min
    In the Hot Seat with Rose Hall

    In the Hot Seat with Rose Hall

    Summary:

    Rose Hall, Senior Vice President and Head of Innovation Americas at AXA XL, discusses the importance of innovation in the insurance industry and how it goes beyond just technology. She shares her journey from construction to risk management and explains how she transitioned into an innovation consulting role.

    Rose emphasizes the need for a holistic approach to risk management and the integration of innovative technologies to help clients reduce risk. She also highlights the role of underwriting and claims in the evolution of the industry, as well as the importance of maintaining stability and discipline while embracing innovation.



    Takeaways:

    Innovation in insurance goes beyond just technology and requires a holistic approach to risk management.

    The integration of innovative technologies can help clients reduce risk and improve their business outcomes.

    Underwriting and claims play a crucial role in the evolution of the industry, particularly in the shift towards predict and prevent.

    Insurance companies need to maintain stability and discipline while embracing innovation to ensure their viability and support for businesses in the long term.



    Sound Bites:

    "Stop thinking about insurance and risk management as being the same thing."

    "We're virtually weaving them in together for maximum effectiveness."

    "Risk is constant, continuous, and holistic."



    Chapters:

    00:00 Introduction and Background

    08:18 The Importance of a Holistic Approach to Risk Management

    25:39 Breaking Down Separations and Embracing Continual Risk Management



    Keywords:

    insurance innovation, risk management, technology, business model, client service, ecosystem, underwriting, claims, predict and prevent, holistic approach

    • 37 min

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