34 episodes

In each episode, All That to Say engages fresh minds on the front lines of what matters. From cable news to incarceration, global warming to gospel music, economics to income inequality, this podcast fearlessly confronts the paradoxes of truth, the paradigms of culture, and the presence of the Divine.

All That To Say Church of God Ministries

    • Society & Culture

In each episode, All That to Say engages fresh minds on the front lines of what matters. From cable news to incarceration, global warming to gospel music, economics to income inequality, this podcast fearlessly confronts the paradoxes of truth, the paradigms of culture, and the presence of the Divine.

    Nate Parker: Black Filmmaking, Faith in Hollywood, and The Birth of a Nation

    Nate Parker: Black Filmmaking, Faith in Hollywood, and The Birth of a Nation

    Join Nate Parker, beloved actor and director of The Birth of a Nation fame, as he gets real with All That to Say about navigating his faith in Hollywood, the art of breaking down walls, and his record-breaking film The Birth of a Nation. 
    He recounts his origin story in a Norfolk, Virginia, housing project, his “escape” to college, and his awakening to the experience of being a Black man in America. He recalls how a phone conversation with his mother shifted the course of his life from pursuing a degree in computer science to moving to Los Angeles on a dream and a literal prayer: Los Angeles, where he found his way to Bishop Dixon’s Center of Hope, where he filmed his first national TV commercial, and where he got his breakout role with Denzel Washington and Forrest Whitaker on The Great Debaters. 
    Nate also talks in-depth about the birth of The Birth of a Nation—the film he wrote, directed, and starred in, which recounts the real-life story of the enslaved African American preacher who organized and led the Nat Turner Rebellion of 1831. Hear why studying for that role was the closest to God he’s ever felt in his life and why he calls the film “the hallmark of [his] existence.” 
    Nate Parker is an American actor, director, producer, and screenwriter. Parker’s directorial debut feature film The Birth of a Nation made history at the 2016 Sundance Film Festival when Fox Searchlight Pictures acquired the distribution rights for a record-breaking price tag. In 2016 he also founded the Nate Parker Foundation and The Nate Parker School of Film and Drama at Wiley College, both dedicated to empowering young Black filmmakers to develop and produce meaningful stories that shape culture.

    • 1 hr 37 min
    Walter Kim: Faith, Culture, and a New Definition of “Evangelical”

    Walter Kim: Faith, Culture, and a New Definition of “Evangelical”

    In this timely, in-depth conversation, National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) president Walter Kim reflects on the history of the organization he’s been leading since 2020. Kim is the first person of a minority community to hold this position.
    He recounts his personal story of being “loved into his faith,” from being born the son of refugees, to hearing the gospel in a theater parking lot as a teenager, to the coupling of his faith and critical thought during his studies at Harvard.
    And he explores the evolving definitions and connotations of the word “evangelical,” its journey through the “toxic politicization of faith,” and the cultural posture it must take in changing world – one that he says should be informed by all members of the faith. Hear him express hope and opportunity for revitalization, racial reconciliation, and public engagement of faith for this generation and beyond.
    Walter Kim is the president of the National Association of Evangelicals. He previously served as a pastor for 15 years at Boston’s historic Park Street Church and four years at Trinity Presbyterian Church in Charlottesville, Virginia. He has spent nearly three decades preaching, writing and engaging in collaborative leadership to connect the Bible to the significant intellectual, cultural and social issues of the day. He serves on the boards of Christianity Today and World Relief. Kim received his Ph.D. from Harvard University in Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations, and his M.Div. from Regent College in Vancouver. He is a licensed minister in the Conservative Congregational Christian Conference.

    • 1 hr 17 min
    Ted Green: Filming the Triumph of the Human Spirit

    Ted Green: Filming the Triumph of the Human Spirit

    In this moving, long-form conversation, journalist and documentary filmmaker Ted Green recounts his journey from an early aspiration to be the next William Faulkner, to his 20-year career in sports journalism, to his natural evolution into storytelling through documentary films.
    Green’s stated goal is to “celebrate the triumph of the human spirit” through his work, and his latest project, “The Best We’ve Got: The Carl Erskine Story,” certainly does that. Listen in as Green reflects on his subject, the “skinny kid from Anderson, Indiana” who became a baseball legend, pitched the first nationally televised no-hitter against Willie Mays and the Giants in 1956, and who Jackie Robinson was proud to call a teammate, an ally, and a true friend.
    He also discusses Erskine’s influence on the acceptance of people with disabilities – his fourth child was born with Down syndrome – and on the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, to which he contributed his celebrity for bedrock fundraising.
    You’ll also hear about his widely acclaimed documentary film “Eva: A-7063,” the true story of a Holocaust survivor’s extraordinary journey to forgive the Nazis who killed her family.
    Ted Green has won 21 regional Emmy Awards. His documentaries have been screened in film festivals worldwide and at the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, and have been featured in The New York Times and Forbes.com. “Eva: A-7063” aired on 95 percent of U.S. PBS stations and in Germany. “Undefeated: The Roger Brown Story” aired on ESPN Classic for several years. Ted holds a BA in American History from Princeton University and a Masters from the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University.

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Shirley Hoogstra: Christian Higher Education in a Contemporary World

    Shirley Hoogstra: Christian Higher Education in a Contemporary World

    In this long-form conversation Shirley Hoogstra, president of the Council for Christian Colleges & Universities, takes a deep dive into the generational and contemporary benefits of faith-based higher education. She reflects on her own unlikely full-circle journey from Calvin College through law school and private law practice, and finally back to Christian university leadership. 
    She discusses her advocacy work in Washington D.C. building alliances with her Catholic, Jesuit, and LDS colleagues to protect religious liberty alongside LGBTQ rights. And hear her adamant commitment to following the counter-cultural example of Jesus Christ, who defied the norms and asked the hard questions, just as she believes Christian universities should do. 
     Finally, Hoogstra shares her predictions for the future of Christian universities, which she views as places of societal hope, and whose voices she believes will be critical as society faces the broad questions of artificial intelligence, medical ethics, and more. 
     As president of the Council for Christian Colleges & Universities since 2014, Shirley Hoogstra has focused on expanding diversity and inclusion on CCCU campuses and making education available, accessible, and affordable to all students, including the incarcerated and the undocumented. Hoogstra also serves on the steering committee for the Washington Higher Ed Secretariat, is a leader for the Evangelical Immigration Table, and serves on the boards of the American Council on Education, the National Association of Evangelicals, and Trinity Forum. 

    • 1 hr 10 min
    Geremy Dixon: The Church as a Transformative Force for Reconciliation

    Geremy Dixon: The Church as a Transformative Force for Reconciliation

    In this long-form conversation Geremy Dixon, lead pastor of Center of Hope LA, reflects on the unique opportunities of ministering in the diverse microcosm of Los Angeles. He talks frankly about deep racial and political divides, why the church at large has lost the trust of the community, and how it might gain it back through reconciliation. “We have to be so comfortable with the presence of the Holy Spirit,” he says, “that we are not rattled by dissent.” 
     In the spirit of reconciliation, he discusses his co-founding of the Misfits Conference, an event that gathers those on the cutting edge of Christianity to think broadly in order to break barriers, build community, and shift culture. 
     And he speaks in-depth about Center of Hope’s missional work with foster care and child welfare, including the Faith Family Foster Network (3FN), a coalition of area churches who collaborate with the Department of Children and Family Services on behalf of children and families in Los Angeles County. 
     Pastor Geremy has served as an associate and now lead pastor for over 20 years at Center of Hope LA in Inglewood, California. Known for his approachable demeanor and common sense approach to Kingdom living, he has the unique ability to connect with individuals from all walks of life.  Pastor Geremy’s particular blend of humor, inspiration and sound biblical grounding has opened doors for him to be a sought after speaker for churches, conferences, and conventions both nationally and internationally. Articulate, passionate, and driven; Geremy is one of the emerging voices proclaiming God’s desire to establish His Kingdom in the marketplace.

    • 1 hr 18 min
    John Koufos: Criminal Justice Reform: Preventing Tomorrow’s Victims

    John Koufos: Criminal Justice Reform: Preventing Tomorrow’s Victims

    In this frank, in-depth conversation, criminal justice advocate John Koufos recounts his personal relationship with the criminal justice system – first as the son of an incarcerated father, then as a high-powered lawyer in New Jersey, and later through his own experience with alcoholism and incarceration. 
    Hear him discuss his ongoing justice reform work, beginning with the New Jersey Reentry Corporation, into the Texas-based Safe Streets & Second Chances program, to helping pass common-sense criminal justice reform laws in several states, to his involvement with both the Obama and Trump administrations…all of which culminated with the passing of the bi-partisan First Step Act of 2018, which he calls “by far the most consequential piece of criminal justice legislation in 30 years.”  
    And learn about his current initiatives, including a clemency project with criminal justice reform advocate Alice Marie Johnson, a collaboration with Florida State University and Wellbeing Equity on the topic of second-chance hiring, as well as his work to create healthier pathways for people coming out of incarceration. 
    John Koufos is the National Director of Reentry Initiatives at Right on Crime and the Executive Director of Safe Streets & Second Chances. John’s reentry work has been recognized by former President Donald J. Trump, and he works with the public and private sector to build partnerships designed to lead to better employment outcomes and safer communities. He is a regular speaker on criminal justice, healthcare and workforce development, and helps cities, states, and the federal government to optimize reentry systems. 

    • 53 min

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