The New Evangelicals Podcast Tim Whitaker

Summary
The conversation discusses the technical difficulties faced before the recording and the humorous incidents that occurred. It then delves into the scandal surrounding Robert Morris and Gateway Church, where allegations of sexual abuse have been made against Morris. The conversation highlights the contradictory statements made by Gateway Church and the need for a thorough investigation. It also addresses the toxic culture within evangelical churches, the impact of purity culture, and the importance of holding leaders accountable. Cindy, the alleged victim, releases a statement expressing her disappointment in the church's response and calling for justice and reform. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the hypocrisy and lack of accountability within certain religious circles, particularly in relation to the handling of sexual abuse allegations. They highlight the case of Robert Morris, a megachurch pastor who platformed Mark Driscoll, despite Driscoll's history of abusive behavior. They also criticize the selective outrage and silence of certain evangelical influencers, such as Meg Basham and Allie Stuckey, who condemn Morris but defend John MacArthur, despite his involvement in covering up child abuse within his own church. The conversation emphasizes the need for accountability and the dismantling of toxic systems within religious institutions.
Takeaways

Technical difficulties can occur before a recording, but it is important to persevere and find solutions.

The scandal surrounding Robert Morris and Gateway Church highlights the need for thorough investigations and accountability within religious institutions.

Toxic culture and purity culture within evangelical churches contribute to the protection of abusive leaders and the blaming of victims.

Victims of abuse should be supported and encouraged to come forward, and justice and reform should be pursued.

The statements made by Gateway Church and the alleged victim, Cindy, reveal the need for transparency and genuine repentance. There is a lack of accountability and hypocrisy within certain religious circles when it comes to handling sexual abuse allegations.

Some religious leaders and influencers selectively condemn certain individuals while defending others, based on their theological alignment or personal biases.

The focus should be on protecting victims and holding abusers accountable, rather than protecting the reputation of religious institutions.

Toxic systems within religious institutions need to be dismantled in order to prioritize the well-being and safety of individuals.

Accountability and transparency are essential in creating a healthy and safe environment within religious communities.


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Summary
In this episode, Tim discusses the recent allegations against Robert Morris, the lead pastor of Gateway Church, who admitted to engaging in inappropriate sexual behavior with a 12-year-old girl when he was in his early 20s. Tim criticizes the response from Gateway Church and highlights the systemic issues within the evangelical church that enable and protect abusive pastors. He also addresses the harmful narratives propagated by conservative media about the supposed dangers of drag queen story hour, while ignoring the real threat of sexual abuse within churches. Tim calls for accountability and a dismantling of the toxic structures within American evangelicalism.
Takeaways

The allegations against Robert Morris are serious and have not been disputed by Gateway Church or Morris himself.

The response from Gateway Church and the language used in their statement minimizes the gravity of Morris' actions and prioritizes his healing journey over the survivor's experience.

The American evangelical church operates as a corporate entity focused on growth and spectacle, often prioritizing the protection of the organization over the well-being of survivors.

The evangelical church needs to address the systemic issues that enable and protect abusive pastors rather than blaming individuals or dismissing the problem.

Conservative media's focus on supposed threats outside of the church, like drag queen story hour, distracts from the real issue of sexual abuse within churches.

The current structures of American evangelicalism need to be dismantled in order to restore the witness of Christianity and prioritize truth, character, and integrity.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Content Warning
00:41 Unpacking the Allegations Against Robert Morris
10:27 The Toxicity of American Evangelicalism
24:53 The Need for Church Accountability
26:19 Dismantling the Structures of Evangelicalism

Read the Article on Robert Morris
Robert's Full Response Video
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Summary
The conversation with Myron Penner this week explores the transition from pre-modern to modern to postmodern eras, focusing on the relationship between faith, reason, and truth. It delves into the intellectual history of these movements, the impact of modernity on theology, and the deconstruction of texts in the postmodern context. 
Takeaways
The transition from pre-modern to modern to postmodern eras has had a significant impact on the relationship between faith, reason, and truth.
The conversation explores the intellectual history of these movements, shedding light on the impact of modernity on theology and the deconstruction of texts in the postmodern context.
The discussion provides insights into the interpretation of texts, the correspondence theory of truth, and the philosophical frameworks of modernity and postmodernity. Interpreting biblical texts involves considering historical context, author status, and social factors, challenging the traditional focus on authorial intent.
The conversation highlights the tension between modernist and postmodernist perspectives in interpreting Christian beliefs, emphasizing the need for intellectual humility and open dialogue.
The evolution of Christian beliefs and the dynamic nature of theological interpretations are explored, challenging the notion of a static, monolithic view of historic orthodox Christianity.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Faith, Reason, and Truth
06:53 The Impact of Modernity on Theology and Truth
29:42 Navigating the Complexity of Biblical Interpretation
53:36 The Interplay of Modernist and Postmodernist Perspectives in Christian Beliefs
58:07 The Evolution and Dynamic Nature of Christian Beliefs
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Summary
In this conversation, Tim and Janice discuss various topics, including the conviction of Donald Trump, the misuse of religious language in politics, and the role of evangelical leaders. They also touch on the hypocrisy of some evangelical leaders and the need for skepticism and critical thinking. The conversation highlights the manipulation of religious beliefs for political gain and the importance of understanding the historical context of political decisions. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Janice discuss the themes of white evangelicalism, the failure of the democratic process, and the hypocrisy of Trump's supporters. They explore the idea that America is in decline and that evangelicalism has failed the test of staying true to its values. They also touch on the conviction of Hunter Biden and the response from both sides of the political spectrum. In this final part of the conversation, Tim discusses the use of memes and images to attack political opponents, particularly in the context of Hunter Biden and Donald Trump. He highlights the hypocrisy of Trump supporters who find such memes acceptable when they target Trump, but not when they target Hunter Biden. Tim also criticizes the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) for its regressive views on women's roles and IVF, and expresses his frustration with the continued platforming of Carl Lentz. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the love and acceptance of queer neighbors, and the control and ownership mentality of some evangelical Christians.
Takeaways

The conviction of Donald Trump is discussed, with the hosts highlighting the manipulation of religious language in politics and the misuse of biblical values.

The conversation emphasizes the need for skepticism and critical thinking when evaluating the actions and statements of evangelical leaders.

The hosts reflect on the historical context of political decisions and the importance of understanding the impact of past events on current issues.

The conversation raises questions about the sincerity of some evangelical leaders and their motivations for aligning with political figures. White evangelicalism has failed to stay true to its values and has embraced hypocrisy.

America is in decline and is facing serious challenges.

The conviction of Hunter Biden highlights the importance of respecting the judicial process.

The political divide in America is deepening, with both sides often failing to see the flaws in their own arguments. The use of memes and images to attack political opponents is hypocritical and lacks logical consistency.

The Southern Baptist Convention's focus on regressive views on women's roles and opposition to IVF is misguided and out of touch.

The continued platforming of Carl Lentz raises questions about accountability and genuine repentance.

Love and acceptance of queer neighbors should be a fundamental aspect of Christian faith.

The control and ownership mentality of some evangelical Christians hinders progress and understanding.


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In this conversation, Tim and Father Jim Gretzky discuss various topics related to Catholicism and the role of priests and bishops. They touch on issues such as the traditional Latin mass, Catholic teachings on abortion and IVF, and the role of priests in parish communities. They also discuss the COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on the Catholic Church. Throughout the conversation, they highlight the importance of understanding the complexities of Catholicism and avoiding generalizations or false judgments. In this conversation, Tim and Father Jim analyze a speech given by NFL player Harrison Butker at Benedictine College. They discuss the recurring theme of longing for a mythological past and the connection between Christian nationalism and the desire to return to a privileged time. They also explore the traditional Catholic view of marriage and the importance of adhering to Catholic traditions. Father Jim provides insights into the Catholic perspective on issues such as birth control and the role of men in society. They highlight the need for nuance and understanding in discussions about faith and the dangers of fundamentalism.

Takeaways
Understanding the complexities of Catholicism is important to avoid generalizations or false judgments.
The role of priests and bishops in the Catholic Church is multifaceted and requires a deep understanding of theology and pastoral care.
The COVID-19 pandemic presented challenges for the Catholic Church, but decisions made by bishops and priests were often based on public health guidelines and the safety of parishioners.
Recognizing the authority of bishops and priests is essential in understanding the role they play in leading the Church and administering the sacraments.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview
02:03 Exploring the Complexities of Catholicism
10:23 The Role of Priests and Bishops in the Catholic Church
15:07 Understanding Catholic Teachings on Abortion
25:22 The Importance of Charity and Staying in One's Lane
30:27 Avoiding Generalizations and False Judgments
38:29 The Role of Priests and Bishops in Parish Communities
47:00 Reflecting on Past and Present Leadership in the Catholic Church
48:59 Longing for a Mythological Past
52:18 The Traditional Catholic View of Marriage
59:47 God-Centered Pride and Glorifying Him
01:09:22 The Catholic View of Marriage
01:17:32 The Importance of Tradition in Worship
01:25:26 Surrounding Yourself with People Who Sharpen You
01:31:49 The Catholic Position on Birth Control

James Martin’s Books:
The Jesuit Guide to (Almost) Everything: A Spirituality for Real Life
My Life with the Saints
In Good Company

Greg Boyle’s Books:
Tattoos on the Heart
Barking to the Choir
The Whole Language

Greg Boyle’s webpage

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Kester Brewin author of God Like: A 500-Year History of Artificial Intelligence in Myths, Machines, Monsters joins Tim to talk about how AI is changing how we understand reality and how theology can be used to use new technologies in wise ways.

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