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When most of us think about nature in Argentina, our minds go immediately to Patagonia—which is a spectacular place worth visiting (it’s one of the most memorable places I’ve been to). But in this week’s episode, we’re exploring two regions in Argentina that most travelers miss: El Impenetrable National Park in the north and Patagonia Azul in the south. 
These places are relatively unfrequented in large part because, up until a few years ago, there really wasn’t an easy way for travelers to access them. Last year, Afar deputy editor Tim Chester traveled with outfitter Journeys With Purpose to explore the nascent tourism industry in both destinations, thanks to the efforts of Rewilding Argentina and Tompkins Conservation. 
As you’ll hear in the episode, Kris and the late Doug Tompkins have spent decades preserving land in Chile and Argentina. (If the names seem familiar, Kris was a CEO at Patagonia, and Doug founded the North Face.) Over the years, the couple acquired hundreds of thousands of acres in both countries and turned them into national parks before donating it all to the Chilean and Argentine governments. The teams that run the parks have reintroduced endangered species, including panthers and sea otters, and allowed the land to recover from years of abuse—essentially rewilding wide swaths of the countries. And now, the parks are open to travelers.
Tim is kind of our environmental guru here at Afar and has covered the concept of rewilding quite a bit, but this was the first chance he had to see the work up close and personal. His trip was muddy, adventurous, and just a little bit life-changing. 
Resources

Read the transcript of the episode.

Watch the companion interview with Tim on YouTube.

Explore Rewilding Argentina and Tompkins Conservation.

Learn more about Journeys With Purpose.

Visit El Impenetrable National Park or Patagonia Azul.

Listen to our interview with Kris Tompkins about the work the conservation has done (and continues to do) in Argentina and Chile. 


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Today we’re launching Travel Tales, season five. And we’re kicking off this season with a roar, although the subjects of today’s episode (polar bears) are much quieter than you’d imagine. 
Nearly two years ago, host Aislyn Greene attended a TED Talk event in New York, held in partnership with the Canadian tourism board. There she met environmentalist and entrepreneur Kevin Smith, who shared his tale in an episode from last season, about how a grizzly bear changed his life, and she met biologist Alysa McCall, whose life was also altered by a bear, though this one was of the more polar sort. Yes, she’s a polar bear biologist, and in the first episode of this season, she explains how she fell in love with the world’s largest land predator up in Churchill, Manitoba. 
As you’ll learn, Alysa didn’t intend to become a polar bear biologist, but once she met these magnificent creatures, she was hooked. They also happen to be one of the most well-known symbols of climate change—as the sea ice shifts and disappears, polar bears can’t hunt and live the way they used to, which also increases human-wildlife conflict. But Alysa—who now works for Polar Bears International—is positive about the future and about the bears’ welfare. 
Resources

Read the transcript of the episode.

Watch the companion interview with Alysa on YouTube.

Explore Polar Bears International. 


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How often do you do something that scares you? This week on Travel Tales by AFAR, Jeff Jenkins—host of the National Geographic show Never Say Never—reminds us that life begins where our comfort zone ends.
On his show, Jeff tests the limits of his physical and mental abilities. He climbs mountains, cave dives, learns to sumo wrestle, races in a Maori canoe (called a waka), and does basically anything else that is likely to terrify-slash-excite. 
His adventures also serve another purpose: as representation for plus-size travelers. Jeff is the founder of Chubby Diaries, a community he built after he realized that no one in travel media looked like him. He has since used his platform to build that representation and to push for the travel industry to be more inclusive.
Don't miss these moments!

3:34: What Never Say Never is all about

4:29: The scariest moment of his first season

6:34: What it was like to learn to sumo wrestle

12:56: His first trip to Japan as a young adult

16:52: How he became a travel writer and influencer

19:29: The importance of representation for plus-size travelers

28:37: How the travel industry could better support plus-size travelers


Meet this week’s guest
Jeff Jenkins, host of the National Geographic show Never Say Never


Resources

Read this episode’s show notes, including a full transcript of the episode.

Watch Never Say Never on Disney+.

Explore the Chubby Diaries. 

Follow him on Instagram and YouTube.


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And a special thanks to our season four Travel Tales by AFAR sponsor, Avalon Waterways, who shares our belief in the transformative power of travel.
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The Great Bear Rainforest is one of the most spectacular, pristine protected places in Canada. But it wasn't always this way. Kevin Smith, a boat captain who grew up in British Columbia and now owns and operates Maple Leaf Adventures, was instrumental in helping turn the local economy from extraction (logging) to tourism. Since then, he's guided thousands of travelers through the wilds of the rainforest and helped build relationships with the Coastal First Nations who have lived there for thousands of years and now steward the land. During the pandemic, he also helmed the largest coastal cleanup ever embarked upon, which is part of his mission to only participate in regenerative tourism.
Don't miss these moments!

4:02: The beginning of the Q&A with Kevin.

4:31: What it was like growing up on a Canadian island.

6:46: Why the Great Bear Rainforest is so important.

11:00: Why regenerative tourism matters.

14:22: Kevin's Travel Tale.



Meet this week’s guest
Kevin Smith, owner of Maple Leaf Adventures

Resources

Read this episode’s show notes, including a full transcript of the episode.

Explore the Great Bear Rainforest.

Listen to Kevin’s TED Talk.

Learn about Maple Leaf Adventures’ tours.



Be sure to subscribe to the show and to sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode. And explore our second podcast, Unpacked, which unpacks a tricky topic in travel each week.
And a special thanks to our season four Travel Tales by AFAR sponsor, Avalon Waterways, who shares our belief in the transformative power of travel.
Amazon Music link: www.tryamazonmusic.com/KjWPGN

Can geometric shapes heal the world? That's what the artists of the De Stijl movement—which came of age in the Netherlands after World War I—believed. Piet Mondrian is one of the most famous members of this group, which forbade circles and embraced light, color, and geometry as a way to move past the chaos of the war. As AFAR contributing writer Chris Colin discovers on a trip to Utrecht, that's not quite as bizarre as it sounds. And as he bicycles through quaint streets, meditates along charming canals, and visits the De Stijl artifacts that still exist, Chris learns that, just maybe, De Stijl's philosophy is still applicable today.
Don't miss these moments!

3:31: The beginning of Chris's Q&A.

7:55: What he appreciated most about the city.

9:47: Why De Stijl's art has endured.

14:25: Chris's Travel Tale.


Meet this week’s guest

Chris Colin, AFAR contributing writer 

Resources

Read this episode’s show notes, including a full transcript of the episode.

Enjoy Chris’s book Off, a picture book about an analog world.

Visit Utrecht and explore De Stijl for yourself. 

Listen to Chris’s other Travel Tales about renting a friend in Tokyo and grappling with the mystery of train travel on the Coast Starlight.

Follow him on Instagram. 


Be sure to subscribe to the show and to sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode. And explore our second podcast, Unpacked, which unpacks a tricky topic in travel each week.
And a special thanks to our season four Travel Tales by AFAR sponsor, Avalon Waterways, who shares our belief in the transformative power of travel.

Amazon Music link: www.tryamazonmusic.com/KjWPGN

For writer Ryan Knighton, surfing is one of the rare occurrences where he feels completely free. Because, in addition to being an excellent writer, a dad, and a curious individual, Ryan is blind. But that's never stopped him from exploring the world. So more than a decade ago, he learned to surf and has been riding the waves near his home in British Columbia ever since. But he’s always had a hankering to surf in a location he doesn’t know intimately. So this year, he traveled to Kaua‘i, where he found a guide—a surfer named Johnny—who pushed both of their boundaries so that Ryan could ride a new wave.
Don't miss these moments!

4:21: An interview with Ryan about how he learned to surf and what it's like to spend most of your life on other people's elbows.

24:03: Ryan's travel tale, read by actor Andrew Galteland


Meet this week’s guest

Ryan Knighton, AFAR contributing writer 

Resources

Read this episode’s show notes, including a full transcript of the episode.

Read Ryan's story about going on safari in Zimbabwe, his trip to Jordan, and his original Spin the Globe in Cairo.

Listen to Ryan's original Travel Tale.

Read Ryan’s book, Cockeyed: A Memoir.

Watch Billions. 

Follow him on X. 


A special thanks to Andrew Galteland, who read Ryan's story for him. You can follow Andrew on his podcast, Looters, a sci-fi western role-playing show. Be sure to subscribe to the show and to sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode. And explore our second podcast, Unpacked, which unpacks a tricky topic in travel each week.
And a special thanks to our season four Travel Tales by AFAR sponsor, Avalon Waterways, who shares our belief in the transformative power of travel.
Amazon Music link: www.tryamazonmusic.com/KjWPGN