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Tearsheet Podcast explores financial services together. We're the podcast of record for news and opinion about the finance industry. Weekly, we identify, track, and analyze top trends impacting the business of finance, with an eye on the digital disruption wrought by fintech and new financial technology. Every week, your host, Zack Miller, Tearsheet's founder and editor in chief, interviews thought leaders, senior executives, and entrepreneurs helping to form the next generation of financial services and technologies.

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Tearsheet Podcast explores financial services together. We're the podcast of record for news and opinion about the finance industry. Weekly, we identify, track, and analyze top trends impacting the business of finance, with an eye on the digital disruption wrought by fintech and new financial technology. Every week, your host, Zack Miller, Tearsheet's founder and editor in chief, interviews thought leaders, senior executives, and entrepreneurs helping to form the next generation of financial services and technologies.

    Brex CFO on spend tech, IPO & cross-functional ties in building modern finance stack

    Brex CFO on spend tech, IPO & cross-functional ties in building modern finance stack

    Today, we're diving into the modern CFO stack, including corporate spend management and financial tech with our guest - Ben Gammell, the CFO of Brex.

    Brex has been shaking up how companies large and small approach spending, providing an integrated platform for everything from corporate cards to spend analytics. It's been quite a journey for Ben, who started at Brex just as the firm was getting off the ground with 15 employees.

    Ben gives us an inside look at Brex's evolution from scrappy startup to serving over 120 public companies today. We'll learn how the CFO role has transformed, expanding well beyond just finance into true cross-functional business partnership.

    Ben doesn't hold back - offering refreshing insights about navigating the IPO journey for Brex clients – but also for Brex itself, managing finances through turbulent times, and the key transitions every CFO faces as their company goes public. You'll want to take notes!

    But don't worry, we'll keep it fun too by tapping into Ben's lead generation skills honed from his Goldman days. Who knows, you may walk away wanting to sign up for Brex as a customer yourself!

    So get ready for an engaging discussion blending savvy business strategy with the realities of life as a startup CFO. Settle in and let's get started with Ben Gammell of Brex.

    The big ideas

    Brex has evolved from serving just startups to also catering to larger enterprise clients, including public companies: "I think there's been a big dynamic of, you know, how do we think about, you know, when we're early stage, we're primarily supporting our businesses with financial services products. But as we moved up into the enterprise customers, there's a greater need for a software solution...We have over 120 public companies on our platform today. Many of them are very much household names, especially in the tech space."

    The role of a CFO has expanded beyond just finance to being more integrated with understanding the business drivers and partnering across functions: "I think that there is definitely a case where CFOs are expected to have more of a integrated sense of understanding of the business, I think, even if you look at how finance teams are structured, that's kind of gone the trend where it's, you know, it's having embedded teams within different functions, providing kind of finance support."

    Brex is taking time in 2023 to integrate their products into a seamless enterprise solution rather than building new products rapidly: "A big hairy goal is just making sure that we have a really great product from a user experience perspective, and making sure that all the products we've built over the last several years, really work seamlessly with one another and really integrated in a really delightful experience for our customers."

    The CFO community is surprisingly collaborative and tight-knit, willing to share learnings: "I think it's an amazingly collaborative community, which I think is fantastic, especially for more new entrants, such as myself, I think there's definitely an openness to help each other out."

    There are key transitions a CFO needs to make as a company goes public around measuring success beyond just valuation: "I think there's this transition phase, especially the CFOs have to go through, you know, going up to an IPO of making sure the company measures its success and things that aren't just what is the value of the company? Because I think if you do that you're setting yourself up for failure."

    • 27 min
    Unlocking home equity: The future of residential real estate investing with Nada's John Green

    Unlocking home equity: The future of residential real estate investing with Nada's John Green

    Welcome to the Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I’m Tearsheet’s editor in chief, Zack Miller.

    What's up FinTech fam? On today's episode, we're going deep on an innovative new way to tap into your home's equity - without taking on more debt.

    Our guest is John Green, co-founder and CEO of Nada, the first SEC-qualified platform allowing homeowners to access their home equity in exchange for a share of the future appreciated value. John breaks down how Nada's unique "home equity investment agreements" provide much-needed liquidity for owners while offering investors access to the $30 trillion residential real estate market.

    We learn about the multi-year journey John and his team undertook to navigate the regulatory minefields of consumer finance and securities laws. John pulls back the curtain on Nada's business model, including their creative distribution partnerships and their plans to take these equity funds public as REITs.

    You'll hear John's bold vision to make home equity as liquid and accessible as checking your savings account balance. From debt relief to fueling consumer spending, he shares how unlocking this massive asset class could drive huge economic empowerment.

    John also gets candid about leadership lessons he's learned as an "unreluctant extrovert" and former full-time punk rocker! It's an insightful discussion at the intersection of fintech disruption, regulatory innovation, and an audacious founder's journey.

    Join us for this fascinating look into making one of the largest asset classes finally available to everyone. Let's go!

    • 28 min
    Inside Cash App's approach to banking its base: A conversation with Ryan Budd

    Inside Cash App's approach to banking its base: A conversation with Ryan Budd

    On today's episode, we're going behind the scenes at one of the most successful money apps out there - Cash App. Our special guest is Ryan Budd, the head of financial products at Cash App, and he's giving us an inside look at Cash App's evolution into a financial powerhouse.

    Cash App started as a simple way to send money to friends, but as Ryan explains, it has become so much more. We're talking full-service banking, investing, crypto trading, tax services - the works! Ryan opens up about Cash App's bold vision to be a "one-stop shop" for all your money needs.

    But how has this ambitious fintech company maintained its startup hustle and breakneck innovation pace even as it has exploded to over 57 million monthly users? Ryan pulls back the curtain on Cash App's unique team structure filled with "mini CEOs" laser-focused on different product verticals.

    He also shares insights into Cash App's drive to bank the underbanked and economically empower communities that have been overlooked by traditional finance. From automated money management to increasing access to credit, Cash App wants to be the #1 choice for how people take control of their financial lives.

    Ryan maps out their goal to create the "next gen community bank" by intelligently merging banking, commerce, and that powerful network effect. It's a candid conversation that you won't want to miss!

    The big ideas

    Cash App as a Comprehensive Financial Platform

    Ryan highlights Cash App's evolution from a money transfer service to a comprehensive financial platform: "Everyone knows Cash App has this place to send money to their friends and their families. But a lot of them don't really realise that we've become so much more than that."

    Focus on Banking the Base

    Cash App aims to deepen its user engagement by becoming the primary banking service for its users: "When we think about banking the base, it's how do we get more customers to actually use us as their primary banking utility?"

    Automation and Financial Health

    The platform's automation features aim to simplify financial management for users: "You can deposit your paycheck and then we rolled out this auto allocation feature a few months back automatically set a percentage of it to savings, automatically set a percent to investing into Bitcoin."

    Incentives to Retain User Funds

    Cash App provides significant incentives for users to keep their money within the app, such as high savings yields and overdraft features: "If you deposit your paycheck to Cash App, you get 4.5% savings yield, you get this incredible overdraft feature that allows you to go negative without any interest or fees or anything of the sort."

    Synergy Between Cash App and Square

    Integrating Cash App with Square's merchant services enhances user experience and creates a seamless ecosystem: "I'm sure you've probably seen at Square point of sale systems, there's oftentimes a little Cash App barcode that's there that you can scan and use Cash App Pay."

    Innovative Team Structure and Culture

    Cash App's success is driven by a lean, autonomous team structure that empowers employees to innovate: "Every single person knows that they're supposed to own that vertical and they look at name X competitor in that space, and they say we're going to beat them... And they're really incentivized and empowered to kind of really think outside the box and push things."

    • 37 min
    From direct lending to embedded finance: Luke Voiles on Pipe's evolving value proposition

    From direct lending to embedded finance: Luke Voiles on Pipe's evolving value proposition

    Welcome to the Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I’m Tearsheet’s editor in chief, Zack Miller.

    Today I'm joined by Luke Voiles, CEO of Pipe, a high profile revenue-based lender that’s evolving into a platform – we’ll talk a lot about this evolution.
    Luke has had an extensive career journey that has prepared him for his role at Pipe. After starting in private equity, he joined Intuit where he helped build and lead the QuickBooks Capital team, providing capital to small businesses during the PPP loan program. He then went to Square to run their banking division before being recruited to join Pipe as CEO. I’ve actually interviewed Luke in each one of these roles and it’s been fascinating for me to watch his own growth as a product-driven leader.

    In our conversation, Luke shares insights from his experience at companies like Intuit and Square that have shaped his leadership approach and methodology for building products. We discuss how he has applied lessons around having a clear mission, focusing on the customer experience, and balancing speed with compliance in regulated industries like fintech.

    Luke provides a look inside Pipe's evolution from its original vision to the newly launched "Capital as a Service" offering. He explains the strategic prioritization that enabled them to build a scalable product quickly. We also get a preview into Pipe's future plans, including AI-powered tools to streamline operations for small business owners.

    Whether you're an entrepreneur, operator at a startup, or just interested in financial technology and product development, I think you'll find Luke's perspectives insightful. So enjoy my conversation with Luke Voiles of Pipe.

    • 47 min
    How MSU Federal Credit Union uses incentives to get customers to move beyond just checking balances

    How MSU Federal Credit Union uses incentives to get customers to move beyond just checking balances

    Welcome to another episode of The Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I’m Tearsheet’s editor in chief, Zack Miller

    Banks and other FIs continue to look for higher engagement with their customers. Logging into an account and refreshing a balance doesn’t create relationships. So, what’s an FI to do to drive real engagement. Michigan State University Federal Credit Union has rolled out a loyalty program that delivers gift cards directly to customers inside their accounts by merchants trying to acquire new customers. The program uses customer data to target offers that matter. And this is just the beginning as banks and credit unions find ways to extend their value proposition, building and strengthening relationships with their customers.

    I’m joined by Ben Maxim, Chief Innovation Officer at Michigan State University Federal Credit Union, and Brendan Grove, CTO of PrizeOut, who are to share their insights on how financial institutions are looking to provide more value to their customers, extended beyond that tried and true toaster.

    We’ll discuss the power of partnerships between credit unions and fintech companies, and explore topics like the evolution of loyalty solutions, the challenges of integrating new technologies into existing credit union infrastructures, and the exciting possibilities for enhancing member engagement through personalized data-driven experiences.

    So, whether you're a bank or credit union product person, a fintech aficionado, or just curious about the future of banking, you're in for a treat. Let's get started!

    • 30 min
    Card Launch 101 The ultimate guide to build and launch a successful card

    Card Launch 101 The ultimate guide to build and launch a successful card

    We recently held a LinkedIn Live event, entitled "Card Launch 101," where we dove deep into the strategies, insights, and best practices for launching and growing successful card products in the fintech and banking industries.

    Featuring industry experts:

    Scott Johnson, Vice President of Revenue at Galileo Financial Technologies
    Marc Butterfield, SVP of Innovation and Disruption at FNBO 
    Jack Rubin, SVP of Consumer Financial Solutions at DailyPay

    Listen is as these professionals share their wealth of knowledge and experience in scaling partnerships, driving innovation, and navigating the complexities of launching card products in today's dynamic landscape.

    Here's what we discussed:

    Understanding Card Launches: Gain insights into the key components of a successful card launch strategy, including strategic planning, market research, and product development.

    Identifying Your Audience: Learn how to identify and understand your target audience through effective market research and data analysis.

    Creating Your Card: Explore the process of designing and developing card products, from features and branding to user experience and regulatory compliance.

    Partnerships and Business Development: Discover the role of partnerships in scaling card programs and expanding market reach, with real-world examples of successful partnership strategies.

    Marketing and Promotion: Get insider tips on marketing and promoting your card product effectively, including targeted messaging, branding, and customer acquisition tactics.

    Case Studies and Success Stories: Hear real-world examples of successful card launches and gain valuable insights and lessons learned from industry leaders.

    To download Tearsheet's Card Guide 101, from ideating, partnering, building, launching and optimizing a card program, go to http://tearsheet.co/cardguide

    • 58 min

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