Modeling conversation Proactive 12 Steps

Serge and Lee discuss what makes conversation safe and spontaneous.  Then they realized that they were modeling the concepts. 

























This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:







Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.













Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.















Published November 2022