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For a long time, compliance was perceived as a part of the larger legal world. Today, compliance is its own profession -- a place where people work tirelessly to make the world a better place, one where doing the right thing is the standard for everyone. There are a lot of amazing and inspirational women who have helped the compliance field develop into what it is today and women who are joining this field every day. They are leading the work on cutting-edge issues and breaking barriers for women. Join Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine as they talk with women in compliance who are making a difference. This podcast is part of the Compliance Podcast Network.

Great Women in Compliance Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine

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For a long time, compliance was perceived as a part of the larger legal world. Today, compliance is its own profession -- a place where people work tirelessly to make the world a better place, one where doing the right thing is the standard for everyone. There are a lot of amazing and inspirational women who have helped the compliance field develop into what it is today and women who are joining this field every day. They are leading the work on cutting-edge issues and breaking barriers for women. Join Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine as they talk with women in compliance who are making a difference. This podcast is part of the Compliance Podcast Network.

    Ellen Hunt with the 2023 Hunt Report

    Ellen Hunt with the 2023 Hunt Report

    If CEOs have Larry Fink's Annual Letter to CEOs, then Lisa has Ellen Hunt's "Hunt Report."  Ellen is Principal Consultant Advisor at Spark Compliance and is well known as a mentor and advocate to many in the E&C community.
    Ellen has finished her first year as a "Sparkie," and will update us on how that is going and what she is seeing and learning through her work.  For the past few years, Lisa and Ellen have talked about retaliation and what we can do better to protect people who raise concerns and those who are witnesses in investigations.  While we have seen some improvements, there is still a long way to go.  They also look at this in light of organizational justice and our workplaces.
    They also continue the discussions of the past few weeks about kindness, fairness and equality, and how these impact our programs.  This can impact how we collaborate with DEI and ESG teams, to ensure ethical workplaces.
    One other way you can improve your workplace is with employee recognition, and Mary's "Living Your Best Compliance Life" column at Corporate Compliance Insights can provide some great insights on the benefits of doing so and some ideas that can brighten someone's day. 
    The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). 
    If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.
    You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.
    Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

    • 27 min
    Kerry Sorvino-a Wealth of Experience

    Kerry Sorvino-a Wealth of Experience

    Axiom is a company that outsources legal and compliance professionals to client companies to help them with temporary cover – essentially a placements of secondments.  Kerry works with Axiom and Mary, who has always been curious about Axiom, took the opportunity to find out what this working arrangement is like. 
    They journey to earlier on in Kerry’s career before Compliance as an employment law professional and how that background and skillset lends well to Compliance.  Kerry’s wheelhouse now is life sciences and she shares particular risks for Compliance Officers working in that industry.
     Listen in as well for what Kerry advises Compliance Officers should be thinking strategically about at the moment and she shares her favorite motivational quote.
    The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). 
    If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.
    You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.
    Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

    • 25 min
    Amy Schuh on Kind vs. Nice: How to Build a Compliance Function

    Amy Schuh on Kind vs. Nice: How to Build a Compliance Function

    Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley and to the new GWIC year. Many of us, especially women, think about the importance of being nice and kind, but have you thought about the differences between those two concepts? And is it a problem to be nice at work? In this episode, Lisa speaks with Amy Schuh, a partner at Morgan Lewis, talks about the distinction – and how being nice works only when things are going well, and being kind also includes being genuine, supporting your team and is critical to building a successful compliance function. In particular, she talks about an article Reasons to stop being nice at work (fastcompany.com) which is incredibly thought provoking.  
     Amy sees her career path as a “jungle gym,” where she has moved between law firms to legal and compliance roles in large companies, and has successfully avoided monitors. She shares her experiences in both, and how they have influenced her current work and how she built her career.
    Lisa and Amy also talk about how they connect and build trust in relationships, and how to build and retain strong teams, particularly with the concept of fairness to employees. Spoiler alert: treating everyone equally isn’t the same as being fair. That concept is included in Hiring Wisdom: Top 10 Ways to Guarantee Your Best People Will Quit – TLNT.
     The ”homework” that Lisa did to speak with Amy in those two articles are now a part of Lisa’s library…which also includes Mary Shirley’s Corporate Compliance Insights monthly column.
    The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). 
    If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.
    You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.
    Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

    • 30 min
    New Year’s Resolutions: A Conversation with the Compliance Community

    New Year’s Resolutions: A Conversation with the Compliance Community

    Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley and to the new GWIC year. Mary and Lisa are back, and looking forward to another season of interesting discussions with fabulous people where we can learn, talk and build our community.  We are always looking to continue these discussions, so please reach out to us, and don't miss Mary's monthly column on Corporate Compliance Insights called "Living Your Best Compliance Life."
    In this episode, Lisa and Mary kick off the year with a New Year's Resolution themed-episode discussing what compliance officers should commit to, focus on and/or prioritize in 2023.   They discuss various substantive issues, such as the DOJ statements on ephemeral communications, what they understand and how much they are looking forward to the forthcoming guidance. Mary also discusses some of the recent cases and developments at the end of 2022, and Lisa includes her thoughts about the intersection of ESG and Compliance.  They also discuss the future of remote work in compliance, and how that is impacting the job market.
    No Mary and Lisa discussion is not complete without some work/life comments and resolutions, so those will be shared as well.  As always, they include the hope that everyone is sending the elevator back down. 
    The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). 
    If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.
    You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.
    Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

    • 35 min
    Karina Vollmer – Making Friends and Influencing People

    Karina Vollmer – Making Friends and Influencing People

    Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.
    One of the most critical aspects of the role of a Compliance Officer is establishing the reputation of the function as being one which is approachable and reliable.  One of the colleagues Mary has admired the most in being successful in this respect, is Karina Vollmer.  The two worked together at Tata Communications in Singapore and take a walk down memory lane to share some thoughts from the past that allow introverts like Mary to learn from extroverts like Karina.
     Karina is originally from Indonesia and takes the opportunity to share with the GWIC audience some of the unique cultural aspects of the country that may impact the role of global compliance officers in multi-national corporations.
    As a mother of two and a Chief Compliance Officer, Karina has a lot going on.  Her discussion builds on an earlier podcast episode with Sue Scott (Great Women in Compliance episode #173) where she addresses the common issue of mum/mom guilt.
     The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). 
    If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.
    You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.
    Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

    • 23 min
    Jacki Cheslow – Bringing Life to a Compliance Program

    Jacki Cheslow – Bringing Life to a Compliance Program

    Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.
    One of the best things about the longevity of the GWIC podcast is that Mary and Lisa get to build some of their own ideas and traditions.  Some are things like "bonus episodes" - a great idea by Mary, the #GWICies, and one of Lisa's, which is to do her last podcast interview of the year with someone who is not only a leader in the E&C community due to her expertise, but also someone who is always a mentor and support to so many people (including Lisa). 
    This year, Lisa is speaking with Jacki Cheslow, who was on the podcast a few years back and since then has moved from a large corporate organization, Avis/Budget, to the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers - the IEEE, which is the world's largest non-profit technical organization.
    Jackie talks about her experience with IEEE as a mission-driven organization, which is to develop technology to benefit humanity, and how that influences her role.  She also talks about starting out at IEEE and needed to learn a whole new area, sanctions, which then became even more important than she would have anticipated. 
    Jacki also shares how she had a bit of imposter syndrome when she started at IEEE,  She provides  valuable insight in how to change one's mindset from a fixed mindset to a growth mindset and how that can also change one's view that they are given the opportunity to learn new things as recognition of one's potential and being open to learning.
    The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). 
    If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.
    You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.
    Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

    • 28 min

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