402 episodes

The market for continuing education, professional development, and lifelong learning is large and evolving rapidly. Competition is growing and learners have more options than ever. Leading Learning is the podcast for learning business professionals who want to thrive in this new landscape. Each week the hosts, Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele, provide actionable insights based on their own deep experience and expertise or invite in experts and practitioners to share their perspectives.

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The market for continuing education, professional development, and lifelong learning is large and evolving rapidly. Competition is growing and learners have more options than ever. Leading Learning is the podcast for learning business professionals who want to thrive in this new landscape. Each week the hosts, Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele, provide actionable insights based on their own deep experience and expertise or invite in experts and practitioners to share their perspectives.

    402: A Curious Conversation About AI with Julian Stodd

    402: A Curious Conversation About AI with Julian Stodd

    If anything, we should all be able to agree that generative artificial intelligence is a curious thing, worthy of reflection and exploration.
    Julian Stodd is a researcher, an artist, an explorer, a writer, and captain and founder of Sea Salt Learning, which helps organizations set strategy and change direction. He is also a firm believer in working out loud and a previous Leading Learning Podcast guest.
    In this episode, co-host Celisa Steele talks with Julian about ideas from Engines of Engagement: A Curious Book About Generative AI, which he co-wrote with Sae Schatz and Geoff Stead. Julian’s perspective on AI is both technical and philosophical, specific and expansive, and, of course, curious.
    Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode402.

    • 48 min
    401: Developing Business for a Learning Business

    401: Developing Business for a Learning Business

    Many skills are needed to create and sustain a successful learning business: financial know-how, marketing acumen, instructional design, to name just a few. But one area that often isn’t invested in—or invested in adequately—is business development.
    Leading Learning Podcast co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele discuss what a business development professional should be able to do for your learning business and how having a skilled professional leading business development means the chance to improve your reach, revenue, and impact.
    Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode401.

    • 26 min
    400: 20 x 20 Vision for Lifelong Learning

    400: 20 x 20 Vision for Lifelong Learning

    We’re at an important point in time for lifelong learning. Much is shifting and unsettled in how humans live and work. That unsettledness means opportunity if your learning business is willing to grapple with the uncertainty and shape a vision for its role in the lifelong learning market.
    In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele look at the current lifelong learning landscape, near-future trends, and the implications—and opportunities—for learning businesses.
    Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode400.

    • 29 min
    399: Transformational Partnerships with Bruce Rosenthal

    399: Transformational Partnerships with Bruce Rosenthal

    To realize their fundamental mission of developing and delivering learning products and services, learning businesses need revenue. Along with direct-to-learner fees for enrollments and registrations, sponsorship dollars are often a key part of that revenue equation.
    In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-host Jeff Cobb talks with Bruce Rosenthal. Bruce helps organizations create sponsorships and partnerships that increase revenue and value for all stakeholders.
    Jeff and Bruce talk about sponsorship versus partnership; the importance of thinking of “partner” as both noun and verb; why logos, visibility, and recognition are no longer a compelling value proposition; the growing emphasis on ROI and other trends in sponsorship; and COVID’s longtail impact on how sponsors engage.
    Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode399.

    • 34 min
    398: The Difficulty of Desirable Difficulties

    398: The Difficulty of Desirable Difficulties

    Learning businesses care about creating effective learning. Doing so is at the heart of why learning businesses exist. But what happens when effective learning practices clash with what learners want or what they believe is effective?
    That clash is precisely what Leading Learning Podcast co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele explore in this episode, which looks at desirable difficulties and the specific difficulty desirable difficulties pose for learning businesses.
    Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode398.

    • 27 min
    397: Learning and Education

    397: Learning and Education

    Learning, education, and professional development are not the same. Similar, yes, interrelated even, but fundamentally and importantly different. If learning businesses take the parochial view of learning as merely education, they unnecessarily limit their impact and their possibilities.
    In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele explore the strategic importance of recognizing the differences between learning, education, and professional development. Learning encompasses informal experiences in addition to formal education and professional development, making it the broadest, more encompassing term.
    Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode397.

    • 17 min

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